House of the Dragon House of the Dragon General Discussion Thread (TAG SPOILERS)

Disagree, F&B has plenty for 4 full seasons. Even if didn't, some of the best GOT Stuff is expanded content like Robert/Cersei in s1 or Viserys walking into the throne room.

The reduced episode count has David Zaslav's mark written all over it, IMO. Just like Batgirl was "unreleasable", and we're headed toward a cheaper DCU so they don't have to pay Gal Gadot and Patty Jenkins, and a lot of HBO max content has been cut. I thought HOTD was untouchable since it's so popular but I guess not.
 
If the story calls for only 8 episodes, I'm fine with that. You don't want them to stretch the season with filler, just so they can have 10. Look at some of those bloated Netflix shows where you can feel they could've easily cut multiple episodes.

To be clear, I'm only okay with it if this is a creative decision. I would've preferred getting 10 episodes again of course.
 
What.the.fork.

Is this best for the series? Same way it was "best" for GoT? Sure jan.

If it was a WB mandate, I'll be even more annoyed.
Completely different stories. The biggest risk adapting the Dance of the Dragons section of F&B is padding it out too much, I'm honestly even a little surprised by talk of four seasons rather than three. My concern is when this decision was made - I don't love the sound of rewrites to reduce it from ten to eight if the scripts were already complete.
 
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I would rather 8 good episodes than 10 poorly paced ones. Similarly, I'd like three more seasons of this show, but honestly, they could adapt the rest of this book in two. Almost every change in season 1 has made the original story more interesting. I'm not too worried.
 
There's also just the issue of baseline competence. Even if this season turned out to be kind of messy it is pretty apparent that the writers on this show are fundamentally more skilled than D&D ever were. HOTD is not perfect but even when I went back and rewatched the first two seasons of GOT recently, as dearly as I love those they are not as good as they should be given the material D&D had to work with and a perfect cast.
 
Production on Season 2 has been bumpy. Sapochnik's exit wasn't amicable. From back in February:

How HBO Stays on Top with 'The Last of Us,' 'White Lotus,' 'Euphoria' - Variety
Bloys has also been adept inside HBO at problem-solving to make projects work. When “House of the Dragon” co-showrunners Ryan Condal and Miguel Sapochnik had a falling out, Bloys figured out a way to keep Condal on board as showrunner and bring in “Thrones” vet Alan Taylor while moving Sapochnik to a development deal.
 
Really bummed to see the cast snubbed at the Emmys today, especially Paddy missing his only shot at a nom. His VizzyT was next-level, and its been sad to see him go largely unrecognized for it.

I really hope they bring him back to write or direct an episode or two down the road. 'Tyrannosaur' rocked.
 
Awesome, I just started this last week. Up to episode 9 so far two 2 episodes left.
 
Rewatched the season and have gained much more appreciation for Green Council episode in particular. That mostly stems from me not realizing-
the consequences of Alicent 'winning' the race against her father. I always thought it was just:
  • A moral victory for Alicent, showing her father she is still a player in this game, after the Green Council plotted without her
  • A chance for Alicent to impress on Aegon that they should try to make peace with Rhaenyra.
Now, it's definitely both of those things too, but it always felt like that 'race' stopped mattering the second someone found Aegon. Like that little chat between Alicent and Aegon is all that came from it. That's ignoring probably the most important part though:
  • Otto wanted to wait crowning Aegon so they could assassinate Rhaenyra in secret first
  • By securing Aegon, Alicent can push for his coronation immediately, even without Otto if she really wanted to
  • Compare to how much prep there is for a tournament / hunt / wedding, instead here people are literally being dragged to this event they don't seem to know about
  • Which is far from the decadence we're used to, but the focus is to have this coronation as soon as humanly possible
  • All so that word will spread that Aegon was crowned and Rhaenyra will be on the defensive
That was probably already obvious to most everyone, but went completely over my head previously. Realizing this made me view the episode in a completely different light. I had just focused on how cool the scene was and that the Greens had all the symbols of public legitimacy compared to Rhaenyra.

(They still do, but they literally just shove people in a room to get this to happen ASAP.)

Please tell me I wasn't the only one who never really got this. I feel a tad stupid now, though I like the additional layers and wrinkles it adds, particularly for Alicent. I absolutely can't wait for Season 2 later this year. If I'm still finding this much in the first season, I can't wait until we have "six seasons and a movie".
 

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