Far From Home MCU Spider-Man is very, very inaccurate

[Schlosser85]

He got outclassed in that dept. by both Garfield & Holland. Those two are clearly more obsessed with being nerds. It's the meek introvert aspect that makes Maguire's so unique and thus awkwardly hysterical when Raimi is making him pull off the opposite.

Actually I thought Maguire was way more nerdy than Garfield or Holland, to a cartoonish extent.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

He got outclassed in that dept. by both Garfield & Holland. Those two are clearly more obsessed with being nerds. It's the meek introvert aspect that makes Maguire's so unique and thus awkwardly hysterical when Raimi is making him pull off the opposite.

It's the meek introvert that doesn't jive with the personality of Peter. He initially was introverted but that wore off as he gained confidence. The Raimi version never really grew out of that.

By awkwardly hysterical you mean you didn't like it?

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Actually I thought Maguire was way more nerdy than Garfield or Holland, to a cartoonish extent.

Yep. He checked all the 'nerd trope' boxes.

 

[2kt09]

It's the meek introvert that doesn't jive with the personality of Peter. He initially was introverted but that wore off as he gained confidence. The Raimi version never really grew out of that.

By awkwardly hysterical you mean you didn't like it?

I mean when he goes black. Raimi intended for Maguire to be that awkward & over-the-top in SM3 and even then I can't ever imagine Tobey Maguire ever pulling off an unironic suave cool guy.

 

[fan4stic]

It's the meek introvert that doesn't jive with the personality of Peter. He initially was introverted but that wore off as he gained confidence. The Raimi version never really grew out of that.

By awkwardly hysterical you mean you didn't like it?

I'd say he did grow out of it and is less introverted after getting his powers and in SM3 he's almost outright in that aspect I think, even without the symbiote.

 

[Herofan]

Without trying to speak for Schlosser, I think what he meant was that Tobey's version didn't do a good job of portraying the personality aspects of Peter. The core characteristics is not exactly the same thing. His Peter was too much of a nerdy trope and didn't exude the level of confidence that Peter eventually grew into after becoming Spider-Man.

Maguire was definitely nerdy and also, or more so, very angsty, I just think in the comics though he grew more confident it was usually, especially in the better comics, joined with steady or increasing angst. While Holland seemed pretty meek (as well as bumbling) but without much angst, a really bad combination.

 

[Shikamaru]

I think was also a mistake for MCU Peter to borrow so much from Miles Morales. On top of removing whatever little uniqueness Miles had from Peter, MCU Peter might also not age that well because of it.

Especially after Spider-Verse. I mean, let's imagine an average fan a few years from now is in a big Spidey mood. If they're in the mood for Peter, there's a million different ways they can read or watch something with classic Peter. If they want Miles, they can watch the Lord & Miller films which will do all the things MCU Spidey did but better (the younger parents, the elitist school, the mentor thing, probably even Ned). That's not even counting any positive domino effect Spider-Verse might have on other versions of Miles.

Like Hawkeye, they based MCU Spider-Man on the Ultimate version that was 'safe' and trendy at the time. Also like Hawkeye, that version was just on its way out the door in favor of a more nuanced version that later became iconic and more closely associated with 616.

It shows a lack of long-term thinking on Disney/Marvel's part, especially now that the deal went through.

 

[Neno_Kos]

I didnt dislike Peter Parker in Far From Home. And movie was more than solid. Liked Mysterio too. But again movie would have being pure classic if MJ was MJ (red head) and not Michelle etc. etc. You know what I mean.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Tom has grown so much since his debut in Civil War.

 

[OroroGambitFan]

MCU Spiderman is it's own thing- it's not the comic book version of some other iteration. So for better or worse it stands own it's own as it's own entity. So for those who want it to be something else, something you're more familiar with and used to-- you're out of luck. Get on board the train or be left behind.

MCU Spiderman is probably the version that's connected with the most fans globally, so while you can't please all the people all the time, they've at least managed to please most of the people-- and there's a victory in that!

 

[WarriorDreamer]

Do you think it would have made more sense to switch the actresses around who played Liz and Betty? Liz actress was older and Betty actress looks more like Liz from the comics.

 

[Herofan]

MCU Spiderman is it's own thing- it's not the comic book version of some other iteration.

Yet many claim he's the best adaptation of the comic book character, many in turn will disagree.

 

[kguillou]

I just finished watching an edited together version of the PS4 Spiderman game’s cinematics (i just dont have the time to play actual game lol) and my God, whoever the writers were for this game—these people GET Spiderman. They just get him. This is easily one of the best renditions of Spider-man I’ve ever seen. The essence of Peter Parker and what he’s about, his personality, his humor, his plight, his relationship with Mary Jane and Aunt May, its all perfect. It was almost frustrating to watch because i kept thinking “why dont they just do THIS on the big screen?!!”

 

[Neno_Kos]

I just finished watching an edited together version of the PS4 Spiderman game’s cinematics (i just dont have the time to play actual game lol) and my God, whoever the writers were for this game—these people GET Spiderman. They just get him. This is easily one of the best renditions of Spider-man I’ve ever seen. The essence of Peter Parker and what he’s about, his personality, his humor, his plight, his relationship with Mary Jane and Aunt May, its all perfect. It was almost frustrating to watch because i kept thinking “why dont they just do THIS on the big screen?!!”

because there are too many chefs involved with movies. Avi Arad, Amy Pascal (Sony), Feige (Disney), whoever director is, script writers (who need to get approval from both Sony and Disney making it extra hard for them to "get Spider-man"). Everyone has its own idea what Spider-Man is, what it should be etc. It's cluster [].

Nobody for years cared about Spider-Man video game property to put any real money behind it. And when property was finally decision free from people with rights, decent studio put some money into it so they can do great video game and make it exactly what they wanted.

 

[kguillou]

because there are too many chefs involved with movies. Avi Arad, Amy Pascal (Sony), Feige (Disney), whoever director is, script writers (who need to get approval from both Sony and Disney making it extra hard for them to "get Spider-man"). Everyone has its own idea what Spider-Man is, what it should be etc. It's cluster [].

Nobody for years cared about Spider-Man video game property to put any real money behind it. And when property was finally decision free from people with rights, decent studio put some money into it so they can do great video game and make it exactly what they wanted.

Sigh, you’re probably right. Spiderman more than any other superhero in film really has been a victim to too cooks meddling for so long and consistently the results come out mediocre/disappointing. Although I feel a good director with a good vision of the character could spearhead something like we’ve gotten in the PS4 game.

 

[saborlord123]

I just finished watching an edited together version of the PS4 Spiderman game’s cinematics (i just dont have the time to play actual game lol) and my God, whoever the writers were for this game—these people GET Spiderman. They just get him. This is easily one of the best renditions of Spider-man I’ve ever seen. The essence of Peter Parker and what he’s about, his personality, his humor, his plight, his relationship with Mary Jane and Aunt May, its all perfect. It was almost frustrating to watch because i kept thinking “why dont they just do THIS on the big screen?!!”

The best version of Spider-Man outside of the comics, IMO.

 

[Catoti]

My main issue with MCU Spidey is that he feels more like 'Iron Man's Sidekick: Spider-Boy' rather than his own hero.

And okay, yes he's young and he needs to be somewhat connected to the rest of the MCU, but I just don't really find him to be all that fun. The charm of Peter Parker is that everything goes wrong for him (being bullied, being late, not enough money, gets yelled at his job etc) despite trying his best, and even with all that, he's still a genuinely great guy.

It might sound harsh, but I don't think the MCU movies go hard enough on Peter. Even his 'bully' is hardly bully material, more like snarky at best. And he's always tied or connected to Iron Man in some way, and sure, I dig the dynamic between the two characters, but there comes a time when it becomes annoying, especially when they don't do it right.

I'm rambling at this point, so I'm gonna stop, because I have a gazillion things I could nitpick.

MCU Spidey is fine but I wish they had done him differently.
Holland is a great actor.

 

[SpiderDude2006]

lol today's my first day on this site so I'm still figuring things out. I've never been on a message board before, so I appreciate your tips! Thanks!

Yeah, I'M also new here and have been here for 3 weeks now

 

[HydraSith12]

Well Tom Holland truly is a different Version of Spiderman but i like that i want to see a Spiderman that dont have a relation to Mary Jane or Gwen Stacy and use other characters to make it feel fresher although Michelle Jones is technically the Mary Jane of the MCU World

 

[godisawesome]

I might be showing more my generation and initial introduction to Peter in cartoons more here… but while I most want a Peter and Spider-Man who has a moderate mix of mostly-sitcom-but-occasionally-soap-opera troubles while also having some more chill and cathartic happiness mixed, I despise “misery porn” Spider-Man so much I’m far more willing to tolerate a “too happy” Spider-Man than anything that I think goes (my subjective opinion of) “too far,” and I particularly despise *most* arguments that he needs to have a sad-sack and struggling status quo.

…So I find MCU Spider-Man preferable to Raimi Spider-Man overall on that basis, and so I *am* the type of nerd who will argue MCU Spider-Man’s success “proves” my opinion on comic stuff like “One More Day is hog wash for embittered Gen Xers who don’t like better stuff” or “Spider-Man 2 would have been better if Sam Raimi weren’t so fanatical about Peter’s live being cringe comedy and his romance with MJ being a soap opera.”

I resolutely feel like Raimi’s Peter was starting to grow a bit stale in the third movie alongside the other numerous problems that film had that were unrelated to the style of Spider-Man they had there, while MCU Spider-Man really hasn’t at all.

At the same time, I *will* also confess that I’m excited about seeing MCU Spider-Man in a more downtrodden starting point next film; I feel like No Way Home earned that as a development, and has a much broader and deeper view of what Spider-Man has become as a franchise and mythos an previous attention (or the current comics), so I won’t have to worry about “frustration” being the main emotional reaction they’ll get out of me the way Raimi did.

 

[HydraSith12]

Disney/Sony truly dropped the ball with the MCU version of Spiderman they made his character and his world too dependent on Ironman or the Avengers Ben Parker does not exist turned Mary Jane into Michelle Jones not Gwen Stacy.... i dont know what is worse MCU Spiderman or MCU Hulk the Spiderman from the Playstation Video Games is better than MCU Spidey

 

[Davos]

My theory is the whole outing of the identity will be undone by the end of the next film and moving forward he starts to be protective of his identity the same way he is in the comics. Dr. Strange will probably factor in, but the catch of the spell will be everyone forgets his identity(Ned, MJ, May and Happy). This will mean he no longer will have access to Stark tech(I imagine the Iron Spider suit getting destroyed by Scorpion/Spider Slayers) and he'll be the "Classic" Spider-Man moving forward.

This post was prophetic.

 

[Mysteryman]

Sucks for people who dislike MCU Spider-Man. It's gonna be the definitive portrayal of the character for millions

Feels like a proper portrayal of Spidey's early years to me.