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The Official 2008-2009 NHL Thread...

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I dont get people's hangup on it having to be an Original 6 team? :confused: The Original 6 didnt play outdoors either, and unless you're born before 1967 you wouldnt remember them anyway. Caps v. Bruins would be interesting, and give the NHL a chance to showcase one of their superstars on a national stage.

I doubt whether they'd put a Canadian team in the game since this event is largely a ratings ploy for the U.S. Canadians dont need gimmicks to watch hockey. I'd also assume Montreal will play Toronto in their outdoor game in December, since it will be off the U.S. radar anyway.
 
I dont get people's hangup on it having to be an Original 6 team? :confused: The Original 6 didnt play outdoors either, and unless you're born before 1967 you wouldnt remember them anyway. Caps v. Bruins would be interesting, and give the NHL a chance to showcase one of their superstars on a national stage.

I doubt whether they'd put a Canadian team in the game since this event is largely a ratings ploy for the U.S. Canadians dont need gimmicks to watch hockey. I'd also assume Montreal will play Toronto in their outdoor game in December, since it will be off the U.S. radar anyway.

I personally enjoy watching the Bruins play against the original six teams. It really does not matter to me. Hell I would take Carolina in Whalers throwback jerseys. I would also take the Caps. Like I said, I don't really care. I just wanna go.
 
The Whalers and any memory of them can go to hell....I live in CT and whenever they played at home, the Rangers would get blacked out
 
The Whalers and any memory of them can go to hell....I live in CT and whenever they played at home, the Rangers would get blacked out

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Yeah I can understand. Whenever they played the Bruins in Hartford I had to watch on the old Sports Channel instead of TV38 or NESN.
 
Rangers did the annual "Blueshirts off their backs" after the last home game tonight.....awesome tradition
 
Rangers did the annual "Blueshirts off their backs" after the last home game tonight.....awesome tradition

Bruins do that as well and I agree it is a great tradition.
 
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when is the NHL Draft Lottery? I need to know whether the Isles will be selecting Taxares or Hedman in June.....
 
Boston Globe is saying that the Winter Classic has been awarded to Boston, but Fenway has not been finalized. So if it falls through with Fenway, either Gillette Stadium or Harvard Stadium could be the venue. But I doubt Fenway negotiations will fall apart as the Bruins want to make this happen due to the downtown location.

They are also saying that the two most likely opponents for the Bruins would be either the Capitals or the Flyers, with the Caps as the #1 choice due to Ovie.
 
Boston Globe is saying that the Winter Classic has been awarded to Boston, but Fenway has not been finalized. So if it falls through with Fenway, either Gillette Stadium or Harvard Stadium could be the venue. But I doubt Fenway negotiations will fall apart as the Bruins want to make this happen due to the downtown location.

They are also saying that the two most likely opponents for the Bruins would be either the Capitals or the Flyers, with the Caps as the #1 choice due to Ovie.

I've heard the Canadiens...
 
Come on, they don't really have Milbury anymore to make the mistake they did last time they had the first overall pick ;)
 
Come on, they don't really have Milbury anymore to make the mistake they did last time they had the first overall pick ;)

Milbury made some good picks. He just traded them all away before they developed for no talent hacks.
 
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I'm def. gonna try this in my next game if I'm in all alone.
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/pu...NHL-s-fortunes-i?urn=nhl,153166&cp=2#comments

In Part One of what should be a wide-ranging interview with Edwards, Steve Lepore of Puck The Media asks about Edwards's time on ESPN and follows up with two questions about its coverage of the game:

PTM: Following up, because of that, are you kind of glad that ESPN doesn't cover hockey anymore?
JE: Well, I think that all you need to know is - for those who wish that hockey was back on ESPN - last Saturday, which was probably the single most amazing night of the NHL season. Just in terms of teams switching places, dramatic things happening, crazy games, that kind of thing.
We went from Toronto to Philadelphia, we were in (Bruins radio play-by-play man) Dave Goucher's room, having a couple cold ones. Now, the Sweet 16 is going on in college basketball at the same time, the only hockey we saw in the entire sportscast of "SportsCenter" was about 45 seconds of the UNH-North Dakota game, which was the one UNH tied with one-tenth of a second to go, that went into Overtime. That was 56 minutes into the telecast. There was nothing on the NHL in the entire show.
So, for those of you that hope that hockey gets back on ESPN, that's what you're gonna' get.
That's where it belongs in ESPN's hierarchy, because there are some bozos sitting in the accounting department in a bunker in Burbank, California running Disney, who look at the numbers and completely ignore the passion of hockey fans. They say "Poker gets better ratings because we can attract more compulsive gamblers to the screen than we can passionate hockey fans, so just for the sake of that number, we're gonna' run poker instead of hockey. We're gonna run women's basketball instead of hockey."
We saw highlights of the Division II NCAA basketball championship, we didn't see a single NHL highlight in that entire "SportsCenter". Case closed.
PTM: Well Jack, you're gonna' be a big hero to a lot of hockey fans when this goes up...
JE: I'm not a hero, I'm just telling you the facts. I mean, that's what it is and you know, this whole idea that hockey will do better if you put it back on ESPN is a delusion. It is completely delusionary. It's more convenient, certainly. But it's not going to be better for the sport, because it's going to be behind golf, it's going to be behind women's basketball and, you know, I'm not dissing those sports.

http://sportsmediawatch.blogspot.com/2009/04/opinion-numbers-trump-passion.html


In a recent interview with Puck the Media, Boston Bruins announcer Jack Edwards had some choice words for ESPN.

The former SportsCenter anchor criticized ESPN for its lack of hockey highlights, noting that on one busy Saturday of NHL action, "[t]here was nothing on the NHL" in an entire episode of SportsCenter. Edwards:
Exactly. And those "bozos" are doing their job.

ESPN is a business, and as such is not interested in a subjective intangible like "the passion of hockey fans." A network that makes programming decisions based on passion will be far less successful than one that makes decisions on actual numbers.

The passion of hockey fans certainly did not help NBC much in 2007, when Ducks/Senators Game 3 set an all-time record low rating on the network. If hockey fans were so uniquely passionate, the ratings for finals such as Oilers/Hurricanes and Ducks/Senators would not have been so far below last year's Penguins/Red Wings series. Passionate fans tune in, even if the series lacks stars like Sidney Crosby, or marquee teams like the Detroit Red Wings.

Certainly, this is not to say that NHL fans are uniquely fair weather, or fair weather at all. But the passion of hockey fans does not amount to much if they only tune in en masse for an outdoor game gimmick or a marquee matchup.

And of course the same can be said about fans of other sports. Far more people tuned in to Celtics/Lakers in '08 than to Spurs/Cavaliers in '07. Baseball saw ratings plummet for Phillies/Rays after the previous year's World Series featured the Red Sox. Many sporting events have set record lows in recent years, and yet ESPN still devotes more time to those sports. So what is the difference between those sports and the NHL?

The all-important numbers. The lowest rated NBA Finals game ever (Game 2 in '03) still attracted 5.2% of U.S. television households. The lowest rated World Series game (Game 3 in '08) drew 6.1%. Meanwhile, the highest rated NHL game of the past 35 years (Game 7 in '03) attracted 4.6%. If your pinnacle is lower than your competitors' lowest point, it stands to reason that you will get less attention.

That being said, Edwards was not arguing that the NHL should get as many highlights as the NBA or MLB. But the NHL is not faring much better than poker, women's basketball or other events he mentioned.

For example, Edwards complained that there was a highlight of the Division II Championship Game on SportsCenter, and not a single one on the NHL. The fact is, the Division II title game drew a 1.2 final rating on CBS -- and, excluding the Winter Classic, not a single NHL regular season game on NBC has drawn a rating that high in over two years. Recently, NBC drew a 0.8 rating for a Sunday afternoon NHL game -- only one tenth of a point higher than the 0.7 four episodes of Poker After Dark drew at 2:05 AM that same week. And the rating for last year's women's college basketball national title game was higher than four of last year's six Stanley Cup Finals games.

Edwards concludes that "if it were my place, if it were my call, I know where the passion is, and I’d rather have 1% of the audience is totally nuts about the sport, than I’m just gonna’ watch it because it’s on." In other words, Edwards would rather have tiny but passionate audience than a large and indifferent one. He notes that "the people who make the decisions in the accounting department, who see the ratings numbers, are going to go purely on the number."

While he means that to be a negative, it seems to make perfect sense. As mentioned before, ESPN is a business. Catering to the small, but passionate, may work for a niche network like Versus -- but not for ESPN. It should be pointed out that the amount of highlights a sport gets are not based solely on television ratings -- if they were, NASCAR would get far more attention on SportsCenter. And other variables, such as whether the sport is an ESPN property, come into play as well. But there seems to be an idea that somehow, the NHL is entitled to highlights and attention -- even though its numbers are generally tiny, and even though ESPN does not even have rights to the league.

If the passion of hockey fans stood to benefit ESPN in any way, for example, higher ratings for SportsCenter, then there would be more NHL highlights. But until ESPN has some incentive to start airing more NHL highlights, until that passion translates into something tangible, hockey highlights will remain on the back burner.
 
BLUES ARE IN! Man I love Hockey, we are back baby!
 
Congrats Hush on the Blues getting in, hope we don't play them down the line, you guys kicked the crap out of us in three staight games,lol. That gets 4 teams from the Central divison in the Western conference playoffs, Detroit, Chicago, Columbus & St. Louis, how good is that divison.
 
I dont get people's hangup on it having to be an Original 6 team? :confused: The Original 6 didnt play outdoors either, and unless you're born before 1967 you wouldnt remember them anyway. Caps v. Bruins would be interesting, and give the NHL a chance to showcase one of their superstars on a national stage.

I doubt whether they'd put a Canadian team in the game since this event is largely a ratings ploy for the U.S. Canadians dont need gimmicks to watch hockey. I'd also assume Montreal will play Toronto in their outdoor game in December, since it will be off the U.S. radar anyway.

Is that Jaroimr Jagr or Youngblood in your avatar?
 
Congrats Hush on the Blues getting in, hope we don't play them down the line, you guys kicked the crap out of us in three staight games,lol. That gets 4 teams from the Central divison in the Western conference playoffs, Detroit, Chicago, Columbus & St. Louis, how good is that divison.

Yeah I mean this is prolly the best division in hockey. Yeah I can see us knocking The Sharks out then having to play you guys!
 
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Milbury made some good picks. He just traded them all away before they developed for no talent hacks.

Garth Snow could pull a shocker and pick Victor Hedman.
 
Garth Snow could pull a shocker and pick Victor Hedman.

If he wants a sure thing, yes he should. Tavares is not a sure thing. Hedman, is a big, monile D. That is harder to come across.
 
Looks like the Bluejackets will get Vancouver in the first round, they are hot right now and Jackets are coming in cold, with 2 wins in the last 5 games. Season series went to Columbus 3-1, should be a great series.
 
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