For some reason this wasn’t one of the possible scenes on my radar even though it now seems so obvious. It was so well done.
Yeah I wish Ock and Goblin got more dialogue together while both were evil.Molina was great, but I do really wish we seen Ock as villain for more of the time before turning him good again.
So...
Peter was determined to cure all of the villains so that they'd have a chance at redemption in their own universes, but Ock specifically said that he was ripped from his universe right around this moment at the 4:00 mark:
Peter fulfilled his promise to Octavius, but my question is, wouldn't he have gotten sent back to that exact moment and still have to sacrifice himself to save the city from his fusion reactor anyway?
I agree. Even the fight on the bridge was a little cartoony. Molina seemed over the top and then Peter just overriding the arms like that was too easyHonestly?
They took one of the most important villain for comic book movies history and made him cartoony villain who is defeated in few minutes as a joke. Then he disappear and don't do much, and they promote this movie with him as the main villain.
I thought that maybe his "motivation" for fight will be a promise of bringing back his wife trough some time/multiverse shenanigans, but no... Nope.
I wishYeah I wish Ock and Goblin got more dialogue together while both were evil.
I also would have liked to see more action with Ock, but I don't think they tarnished him at all and if we ever do want to see him at his peak, we can always go back to SM2 which will probably never be topped anyways.
I thought the bridge fight was pretty awesome, but it doesn't come close to anything in SM2 and really his role for the rest of the movie was pretty faithful to how his arc ended in SM2.
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Peter was determined to cure all of the villains so that they'd have a chance at redemption in their own universes, but Ock specifically said that he was ripped from his universe right around this moment at the 4:00 mark:
Peter fulfilled his promise to Octavius, but my question is, wouldn't he have gotten sent back to that exact moment and still have to sacrifice himself to save the city from his fusion reactor anyway?
Molina was amazing, as expected. And I for one am glad that they didn't overplay him as a villain. As the most tragic of the villains, it was only right he be "fixed" first.
interesting comments I found on a Youtube review
"it was dumb how Holland "fixed" Doc Ock. He wasn't evil because the chip on his neck broke although that played a factor. He was evil because of his guilt and shame for the death of his wife and failure of his project as well as his ego."
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There are plenty of instances where Octavius conversed and even debated with the arms. Did they influence him? Yes. But did Octavius have any agency in his actions? Absolutely. It's why Peter had to appeal to the goodness in him. He didn't need to be "fixed""
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could NWH have misinterpreted Doc Ock?