Do you think Marvel will ever get the rights back from Sony & Fox?

[roach]

Just did a Yahoo search on news on Sony Pictures....all news on acquisitions and movies...nothing about its about to go belly up

when MGM was about to go everyone knew

and I did a google news search also
all the same thing

 

[craigdbfan]

Just because you haven't heard of the biggest equity site out there doesn't mean it doesn't hold legitimacy. That's the most inane way of looking at things. It's an incredible reputable site for those in the business sector. MSNBC, Huffinting Post also covered it using the site as a reference.

Their last list had Blockbuster at #1 declaring bankruptcy and guess what they did and were bought out by Dish.

MGM was in a similar situation as they didn't halt its productions it had already started before their foreseeable bankruptcy. They just started getting other studios to distribute their material post-bankruptcy.

 

[Docker2.0]

THanks for the back up Craig sir. I actually was drinking so I didn't feel like looking it up. It's also one of the reasons why Disney was able to acquire all of the rights to Spiderman with the exception of film rights. As far as Spidey appearing in Avengers.......................we'll just wait and see. Don't feel like debating it because I don't believe everything I see online but if Disney was able to acquire everything Spidey but the film rights, I think they'd want to see their project succeed. If he does, great! If not, then noone expected it anyway.

 

[roach]

24/7 wall street isn't always correct as they predicted the demise of T-mobile, Kia, Moody's, BP and Zale

 

[Captain Marvel]

Well, let's hope they ARE right this time because if they are then Marvel may very well end up getting Spider-Man back. Can you imagine that? Iron Man is currently Marvel's biggest franchise, but just like that they'd have a franchise which is even bigger, and it'd be one which isn't dependent on its star (People certainly didn't go to the Spider-Man movies because Tobey Maguire was the star, whereas Robert Downey Jr. is himself a huge draw). The only question is if they'd continue on from The Amazing Spider-Man or reboot the franchise from scratch. Personally speaking, I'd rather they reboot and make the series their own, instead of using Sony's hand-me-downs. Not to mention that I'd like to see the classic costume again instead of that fugly suit they've got in the new movie.

 

[Dark Raven]

Well, let's hope they ARE right this time because if they are then Marvel may very well end up getting Spider-Man back. Can you imagine that? Iron Man is currently Marvel's biggest franchise, but just like that they'd have a franchise which is even bigger, and it'd be one which isn't dependent on its star (People certainly didn't go to the Spider-Man movies because Tobey Maguire was the star, whereas Robert Downey Jr. is himself a huge draw). The only question is if they'd continue on from The Amazing Spider-Man or reboot the franchise from scratch. Personally speaking, I'd rather they reboot and make the series their own, instead of using Sony's hand-me-downs. Not to mention that I'd like to see the classic costume again instead of that fugly suit they've got in the new movie.

When you talk about "hand-me-downs" the thing is that if it is something successful, why go and reboot/ recreate it again just for the sake of making it your own? There's no guarantee of success if you go do your own thing. It's like Marvel Legends. They were already successful under Toybiz, but when Hasbro acquired them, they changed them just for the sake of changing, and also put more effort into Marvel Universe.

All Marvel Studios would need to do with the Amazing Spider-Man (if it is a success) is change the costume to something more classic. They don't need to reboot everything. Of course, if it doesn't do well, then I say let it be a one-off movie like Superman Returns and by all means reboot with a new cast.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

If they (MS) are smart, they'll wait at least a decade until they reboot S-M again. They might kill the franchise for good if they rush that.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

i think there's a good chance they'll get F4 back no doubt that fox will f'it up again. they hired the guy that wrote green lantern? lol. the only thing that could save that is ty burell as reed richards.

spider-man I'm not so sure. its a money maker and if they want it back, they're gonna have to pony up a pretty penny. its mickey though. he's good for it.

i think the X-men can function as its own universe. maybe they'll let marvel borrow wolvie once in a while.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Here's hoping Marvel gets the rights back to Ghost Rider in 5 years.

 

[Captain Marvel]

Here's hoping that Sony Pictures does, in fact, go belly up this year. If it does then Marvel may be able to get both Spider-Man AND Ghost Rider sooner than that. I want my Midnight Sons movie with Dr. Strange, Blade, and Ghost Rider.

 

[Dark Raven]

Here's hoping that Sony Pictures does, in fact, go belly up this year. If it does then Marvel may be able to get both Spider-Man AND Ghost Rider sooner than that. I want my Midnight Sons movie with Dr. Strange, Blade, and Ghost Rider.

Spider-Man ought to be with Marvel, just because it seems ridiculous that their premiere superhero is owned by a different studio. I would say it's almost like Superman and Batman being split over two studios, but so far that hasn't really mattered because they've never crossed over.

But then I anticipate that Spider-Man would be brought into the Avengers simply because he would be a very tempting business decision to become a huge box office draw. The only thing (from a business standpoint) greater than having Spider-Man in the same movie as the current movie Avengers lineup is to have the likes of Superman and Batman (which, of course, they wouldn't ever be since they're DC properties). Having Spider-Man there would offer Marvel the ultimate team up movie... even though creatively, I would prefer he's kept separate.

 

[Captain Marvel]

From a business standpoint, yeah, having Spider-Man in the Avengers would be a huge deal. Spider-Man has nearly made a billion dollars at the box office alone! How much more could he pull in if partnered in a single movie with the rest of the Avengers? Can you imagine how much Marvel would kill if they had both RDJ's Iron Man AND Spider-Man in the same movie? Such a movie could undoubtedly clear a billion dollars, easy. The Avengers with Spider-Man in the mix would be HUGE!

And I completely agree with you about Marvel not having access to its flagship character. The X-Men are one thing, as they've always seemingly existed in their own pocket of the Marvel Universe separate from the rest, and they're probably better off at Fox, especially since their corner of the universe is so large that they can sustain their own series of movies into perpetuity. But Spider-Man? He IS Marvel. Spider-Man represents everything that Marvel Comics is about. They absolutely have to get him back.

 

[Dark Raven]

If Spider-Man were drafted into the Avengers, which actor do they get? Andrew Garfield, because he's the new and current Spider-Man? Or Tobey Maguire, who is the established movie Spider-Man and a familiar face? Which actor gives more of a sense of some kind of epic meeting? Seeing Maguire interact with RDJ etc, or seeing the new kid? Would Garfield be more similar to having a new face in Ruffalo than if it were Ed Norton interacting with the other actors?

 

[Captain Marvel]

Sadly, Tobey Maguire will be damn near 40 by the time Marvel can use Spider-Man, assuming they get the film rights back, so assuming they don't reboot Spider-Man again Andrew Garfield will probably be who they'll end up using. I just hope that if they do continue on from The Amazing Spider-Man that they at least fix the costume. Geeze, it was perfect in the Raimi movies. Why mess with it?

 

[Dark Raven]

Yeah, Garfield would probably be the guy. I hope they give him a classic costume too, and also fix his bouffant hair. Even in The Social Network or Lions For Lambs he had better hair.

But if they did reboot Spider-Man, the actor I would've liked to have seen in the role would've been Patrick J Adams from Suits. He seems more Peter Parker-ish than what I've seen of Garfield both in looks and personality.

 

[Captain Marvel]

Yeah, Garfield looks like he'd be more at home in a Twilight movie than in Spider-Man.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Out of all the properties MS doesn't own, FF is the only one I'd really like to see included in the MCU.

 

[Raiden]

Here's hoping Marvel gets the rights back to Ghost Rider in 5 years.

With GR2 underperforming I don't see Sony greenlighting another sequel, and rebooting it is pointless because it isn't a great franchise to begin with, so I do expect to see the old flaming skull returning to the company that made him in the first place soon.

Btw, do we have any new update on FOX's planned reboot for FF? I know they have a writer and a director but what about an actual release date? I for one really want to see FF going back to Marvel Studios, because if FF becomes part of MCU I can see so many potentials using characters and storylines from this property.

 

[Rac]

But Fox is doing a DD sequel...they are working on the script and a director has been chosen

It's not a sequel, it's very much a reboot.

 

[Captain Marvel]

With GR2 underperforming I don't see Sony greenlighting another sequel, and rebooting it is pointless because it isn't a great franchise to begin with, so I do expect to see the old flaming skull returning to the company that made him in the first place soon.

Well, despite how awful the first movie was, it still made $228 million. That to me says that the audience was intrigued by the idea of a character like Ghost Rider, so personally I think that they could probably succeed with a good reboot. Especially since I doubt anyone even noticed that another movie came out. Honestly, I didn't even notice that the second one had come out, and I come to this site every day. And if the general audience didn't notice the failure of the second one, then it can't harm the reputation of the character.

Btw, do we have any new update on FOX's planned reboot for FF? I know they have a writer and a director but what about an actual release date? I for one really want to see FF going back to Marvel Studios, because if FF becomes part of MCU I can see so many potentials using characters and storylines from this property.

Agreed. At the very least I want Silver Surfer and Galactus, as that'll open up so many doors for their cosmic universe, especially since Marvel's planning a Guardians of the Galaxy movie.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Well the 2nd movie was a flop domestically, and is itching towards a nominal profit by the end of it's cinematic run. I really hope Sony does not make anymore GR movies. They keep treating the character like it is a PG 13 B movie trash, when it is a hard R, horrific legacy character with a very dynamic list of enemies and epic story. Nobody acknowledges those things. I think a lot of writers are too intimidated with the source material, but there is a lot of good cinema to be made with it.

Here's hoping Sony gives it up and allows it to go back to Marvel. I would rather wait 10 years for a fantastic Ghost Rider film than see another horrible PG 13 movie with Nicolas Cage.

 

[Captain Marvel]

Yeah, there's some point when people just have to admit that Nicholas Cage's career is over and just stop casting him for movies.

As for the first two, I don't think that they're intimidated by the character and the world so much as that... they just don't give a crap. I remember reading an interview with the people behind the current movie and apparently they based their version of Blackout purely on his looks and never bothered reading up on him or doing any research. Frankly, I was pretty shocked when I saw that. Given how little they cared about the material they were working with, it's really no surprise that that movie was an utter failure.

That being said, I really hope we DON'T have to wait 10 years for a good Ghost Rider movie. At the very least, introduce him in another movie, but I want to see a good film version of Ghost Rider, damn it!

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

If Sony doesn't have anything in line for another sequel..we should expect the rights to return to Marvel within 5 years. Afterwards, Marvel might just sit on it for a while until they give the rights to another publisher , or decide to do it themselves...Either way, I don't see any GR movie coming out for at least 10 years.

 

[BigThor]

This is quite an interesting discussion you guys have going on, well let me say that I think the rights to the FF are the most important rights for MS to acquire due to how important many of the characters are to the MU.

I'm also a bit glad to see GR 2 flopping domestically just because it makes it easier for Marvel to acquire the rights to GR and related characters. That would open up the ability to use an important character like Mephisto in the MCU, besides I can't wait for my two favorite superheroes to be in the same film universe!

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I agree BT. I honestly don't care if Marvel gets any of the other rights back other than FF. The others usually have their own stuff going on within the Marvel Universe and aren't as involved unless its event stories.

FF is one of those superhero groups that's essential to SHIELD and the Marvel Universe. Spider-man, the whole mutant universe, Daredevil and Ghost Rider usually do their own things.