The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spiderman 2 - User Review Thread! - SPOILERS! - Part 2

[Picard Sisko]

sam's channel review(mixed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5RVJ-wCOBo

any thoughts?

Considering how harsh he can be with movies, the fact that he likes it a lot more than TASM1 makes me happy. Though I generally don't care for his reviews.

 

[The Joker]

sam's channel review(mixed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5RVJ-wCOBo

any thoughts?

Excellent review. Thorough, fair, and concise.

Everything he says is spot on and well backed up why.

 

[spider-neil]

sam's channel review(mixed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5RVJ-wCOBo

any thoughts?

Good review. Presents his points well. I don't agree but it is well presented.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

sam's channel review(mixed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5RVJ-wCOBo

any thoughts?

and that guys hits it out of the park, every thing he says it what the likes of myself and joker have been going on about

 

[spider-neil]

and that guys hits it out of the park, every thing he says it what the likes of myself and joker have been going on about

Regardless of what he (or you) say, it is an opinion and not a fact.
For example, I could go into why TDK leaves plot threads danging, is overlong and characters change motivation on a whim but that is an opinion, not a fact.

 

[Fudgie]

sam's channel review(mixed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5RVJ-wCOBo

any thoughts?

That dude nailed it. Best video review yet. Oh yeah.

 

[spider-neil]

The people who like ASM2 should post gushing reviews (there are enough of them) and then say 'oh yeah, they've nailed it'

 

[Fudgie]

Heh someone is taking diff opinions personally. We think the guy nailed it. Accept and get over that we feel that way. We ain't whining about opinions when the ones who love it post.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Regardless of what he (or you) say, it is an opinion and not a fact.
For example, I could go into why TDK leaves plot threads danging, is overlong and characters change motivation on a whim but that is an opinion, not a fact.

Exactly. Film and all other art is subjective. Period.

 

[Fudgie]

Exactly. Film and all other art is subjective. Period.

Sooooo those reviews that say TASM 2 is as bad as Batman and Robin are valid because film is subjective right?

 

[Picard Sisko]

Sooooo those reviews that say TASM 2 is as bad as Batman and Robin are valid because film is subjective right?

If those reviewers compare it to B&R and honestly feel that way, then it's their opinion (whether or not it's an exaggeration). I don't think you really understand what subjectivity means.

 

[Fudgie]

If those reviewers compare it to B&R and honestly feel that way, then it's their opinion. I don't think you really understand what subjectivity means.

Yup I do. But I've seen peeps like you and others disregard those reviews because you don't think they're right to compare it to B&R. But you're here now saying film is all subjective.

So remember that next time you see someone say it's as bad as B&R. You know they will.

 

[Bullseye1]

Regardless of what he (or you) say, it is an opinion and not a fact.
For example, I could go into why TDK leaves plot threads danging, is overlong and characters change motivation on a whim but that is an opinion, not a fact.

This. It's all about opinion and the most important one is your own. I don't see the need to seek out similar reviews to my own to make me feel good about myself.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Yup I do. But I've seen peeps like you and others disregard those reviews because you don't think they're right to compare it to B&R. But you're here now saying film is all subjective.

So remember that next time you see someone say it's as bad as B&R. You know they will.

I'm not saying that the critic who used that film for a comparison doesn't have a right to do so. It just felt that it came off as an extreme exaggeration from a person who wanted to hate the film (especially since I heard this from CBM where everything that isn't Nolan or MCU related will basically get trashed).

 

[Protessional]

My review of TASM2 - posted this by accident in the General Discussion earlier as I didn't know there was a Part 2 of this:

http://www.unleashthefanboy.com/news/amazing-spider-man-2-utf-review/98032#!E396R

 

[Fudgie]

This. It's all about opinion and the most important one is your own. I don't see the need to seek out similar reviews to my own to make me feel good about myself.

Heh we didn't. Some peep posted the review and asked everyone what they thought. Some of us answered saying we loved it and think it nailed it, and then one person comes along and acts all annoyed just because we felt that way.

So who's at fault here hmmm?

I'm not saying that the critic who used that film for a comparison doesn't have a right to do so. It just felt that it came off as an extreme exaggeration from a person who wanted to hate the film (especially since I heard this from CBM where everything that isn't Nolan or MCU related will basically get trashed).

It can't be an extreme exaggeration if the guy really felt it was that bad. Remember subjective film and all that you were saying?

What if the guy really felt it was Batman and Robin level bad. He shouldn't be disregarded for it if you peeps all feel movies are subjective.

 

[SpideyK]

My review of TASM2 - posted this by accident in the General Discussion earlier as I didn't know there was a Part 2 of this:

http://www.unleashthefanboy.com/news/amazing-spider-man-2-utf-review/98032#!E396R

So... Did you like the movie or not?

Honestly, it's kinda hard to tell.

 

[Bullseye1]

Heh we didn't. Some peep posted the review and asked everyone what they thought. Some of us answered saying we loved it and think it nailed it, and then one person comes along and acts all annoyed just because we felt that way.

So who's at fault here hmmm?



It can't be an extreme exaggeration if the guy really felt it was that bad. Remember subjective film and all that you were saying?

What if the guy really felt it was Batman and Robin level bad. He shouldn't be disregarded for it if you peeps all feel movies are subjective.

Batman and Robin bad? That's an interesting conclusion. Was he one of the reviewers who got death treats for his/her less than favourable review of a certain other CBM?

I guess this movie really is like marmite.

 

[Fudgie]

Batman and Robin bad? That's an interesting conclusion. Was he one of the reviewers who got death treats for his/her less than favourable review of a certain other CBM?

I guess this movie really is like marmite.

Dunno if he got any death threats, man, but if he did then it shows how saddo some peeps can be over movie opinions. Like the lunatics on RT over the TDKR reviews back in 2012.

 

[Protessional]

So... Did you like the movie or not?

Honestly, it's kinda hard to tell.

I did like it, despite some annoying flaws.

 

[Picard Sisko]

It can't be an extreme exaggeration if the guy really felt it was that bad. Remember subjective film and all that you were saying?

What if the guy really felt it was Batman and Robin level bad. He shouldn't be disregarded for it if you peeps all feel movies are subjective.

Well when certain "peeps" go around trashing the film like there's no tomorrow before it comes out and then gives a B&R comparison, it's kind of hard to tell if the person was really exaggerating or giving an honest opinion. If someone like JOE said the movie felt like B&R, I would totally believe him because I know he is credible. When someone from a site called "comic book movie" says that, I just have to raise an eyebrow a little bit, that's all.

 

[LizardMan07]

Spoiler

2 minutes in, he's just trashing sony, don't see how people liked this... TASM wasn't dull, and the Sam Raimi man love is pretty clear.

6 minutes in literally *** you Sony, so I wasn't wrong about him hating Sony, oh and he's saying it's spiderman 3 all over again. He does clear it up

7 minutes in, I'm pretty sure he just said that MJ's relationship with Peter in SM series was better than MJ's in TASM? What?

8 Minutes in "And if you think sony won't recreate an iconic scene in the movie to make fanboys say this was the best movie ever, you were wrong" (In reference to Gwen's death)

You mean like the iconic throwaway of the costume in SM2?

I guess that's ok though cause Sam Raimi. I think both were fine but by his criteria it makes him a bleeding hypocrite if he's going to start the review praising Raimi to no end.

9 minutes in, he seems to think that Gwen's death had anything to do with the
"great power and great responsiblity arc", good to know that he didn't read the comics as that REALLY wasn't what it was getting at, it was more "Holy ***, the love of my life died", they got rid of her in the comics because they were going to be to boring as their relationship was working out and they would have gotten married and that's boring. Gwen Stacy arc was different to uncle ben arc. Also bothers me that he dismisses the best scene in the movie as some kind of evil plot by sony to elicit a reaction out of "fanboys". He was complaining about the spider venom plot leading to gwen stacy's ultimate demise, saying that the plot made no sense because of that. Seems a bit silly to me. I mean, he's upset that one event leads to another? Or did he think that Gwen's death scene didn't fit? The whole two movies lead up to that moment.

10 Minutes in "to much CGI", really? Seriously? Honestly, the CGI was fantastic and the too much CGI thing is just silly. Oh he's talking about defying the laws of gravity here, oh look a scene from spiderman 2, wait isn't that from the train scene? You know, where spiderman defies the laws of physics and stops a moving train? I'm fine witht that, but not when you talked about realism in your last sentence.

And to conclude, he's complaining about movies setting up for future movies as a franchise! Can't wait to see his reviews on movies in the MCU!

It's pretty clear he hates the whole idea that we couldn't see Sam Raimi's fourth film, and it's pretty clear to me that we're looking at these films completely differently.

Put the whole thing in a spoiler tag as I do talk spoilers and it makes the thread easier to read without big paragraphs of text.

 

[Morbius]

I quite liked TASM2. Parts of it were thoroughly enjoyable but at times it felt more like a series of sketches woven together as though it were a kind of "previously on Spiderman" recap.

The personal touches were a treat though with some heartwarming Gwen/Aunt May moments that left me sighing in the good sense. When the movie slowed down and put the theatrical on hold, that's when it really amazed me. You really see just how selfless Spidey is in the end, even though it follows his breaking of the promise to Captain Stacey, and we see his guilt manifest quite well in the process.

The battles ranging from abrupt to spectacular. Electro is a seismic cacophony of dubstep, the whole of NYC trembling before his firework displays of electric rage (Max Dillon may have benefitted from a little less Edward Nigma prior to his transformation and perhaps something less laughable).

Harry Osborn... I'm a huge fan of Dehaan and with good reason - he is one of the best things about this movie's first and second half . sadly his potential is wasted in the very rushed third and final act as it's apparent the studio simply tried to fit too much into a 2-and-a-half hr movie. This is not a tale of too many villains, it's simply a tale of too many threads, and Harry's feels very unrealized in the process.

Spoiler

There was literally no point in there being a 'goblin' at all. We get 4 minutes of him including the glider and bombs etc. Not enough time for any lasting impact whatsoever. He is relegated to a simple plot device - to kill Gwen and nothing more. Very disappointing and a HUGE missed opportunity for Marc and co...

It's not quite the Dark Knight of the Spidey cinematic universe but it does feel like it has finally paved the way for a bigger, bolder universe. I had a lot of fun in the meantime, despite its shortcomings. When it shined, it really shined, and its ending was profoundly heartwarming even if bittersweet.

8/10.

Oh and I dressed up as Spidey in the cinema!

Spoiler

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[SpideyK]

Spoiler

2 minutes in, he's just trashing sony, don't see how people liked this... TASM wasn't dull, and the Sam Raimi man love is pretty clear.

6 minutes in literally *** you Sony, so I wasn't wrong about him hating Sony, oh and he's saying it's spiderman 3 all over again. He does clear it up

7 minutes in, I'm pretty sure he just said that MJ's relationship with Peter in SM series was better than MJ's in TASM? What?

8 Minutes in "And if you think sony won't recreate an iconic scene in the movie to make fanboys say this was the best movie ever, you were wrong" (In reference to Gwen's death)

You mean like the iconic throwaway of the costume in SM2?

I guess that's ok though cause Sam Raimi. I think both were fine but by his criteria it makes him a bleeding hypocrite if he's going to start the review praising Raimi to no end.

9 minutes in, he seems to think that Gwen's death had anything to do with the
"great power and great responsiblity arc", good to know that he didn't read the comics as that REALLY wasn't what it was getting at, it was more "Holy ***, the love of my life died", they got rid of her in the comics because they were going to be to boring as their relationship was working out and they would have gotten married and that's boring. Gwen Stacy arc was different to uncle ben arc. Also bothers me that he dismisses the best scene in the movie as some kind of evil plot by sony to elicit a reaction out of "fanboys". He was complaining about the spider venom plot leading to gwen stacy's ultimate demise, saying that the plot made no sense because of that. Seems a bit silly to me. I mean, he's upset that one event leads to another? Or did he think that Gwen's death scene didn't fit? The whole two movies lead up to that moment.

10 Minutes in "to much CGI", really? Seriously? Honestly, the CGI was fantastic and the too much CGI thing is just silly. Oh he's talking about defying the laws of gravity here, oh look a scene from spiderman 2, wait isn't that from the train scene? You know, where spiderman defies the laws of physics and stops a moving train? I'm fine witht that, but not when you talked about realism in your last sentence.

And to conclude, he's complaining about movies setting up for future movies as a franchise! Can't wait to see his reviews on movies in the MCU!

It's pretty clear he hates the whole idea that we couldn't see Sam Raimi's fourth film, and it's pretty clear to me that we're looking at these films completely differently.

Put the whole thing in a spoiler tag as I do talk spoilers and it makes the thread easier to read without big paragraphs of text.

Actually, he doesn't even come across as a Raimi fanboy to me.

The only Spider-Man movie he really likes is Spider-Man 2.

I'm not even sure if the guy likes Spidey movies, at all.

 

[LizardMan07]

Actually, he doesn't even come across as a Raimi fanboy to me.

The only Spider-Man movie he really likes is Spider-Man 2.

I'm not even sure if the guy likes Spidey movies, at all.

Oh god I hope I haven't misinterpreted the whole video, it's like 2:30 in the morning here and I am sick of the hyperbole.

Was anything else I said dumb? Sigh...