Coronavirus outbreak

[Kane52630]

 

[Iceman]

The BS keeps flowing.

Donald Trump spinning coronavirus failure as a win again - CNNPolitics

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Swan does this leg jitter thing almost as soon as Trump starts flying off into bull**** land and I don't know if it stops but you can see he's containing himself because he cannot believe the "answers" he's getting.

 

[Iceman]

Is this guy really the president and leading the response to one of the biggest threats in recent times?

 

[Zorro]

In his mind, America wins at being the best in everything and is near flawless in comparison to the rest of the world. His opinions and thoughts are the universal truth and somehow his followers believe his every word!

 

[Schlosser85]

The most terrifying part is there is a disturbing number of Americans who downright worship this man with fanatical cultish devotion and believe he is the greatest president we’ve ever had. Don’t ask me how they believe that, but they do.

 

[Morg]

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Everyone should give it a read.




GROSS: You know, President Trump said nobody knew there would be a pandemic or epidemic of this proportion; nobody has ever seen anything like this before. But you've worked with people who were planning for something just like this. What are some of the things that we have been prepared for, through task forces and planning exercises, that you have not seen activated?

MAX BROOKS: Yes. I can tell you that the federal government has multiple layers of disaster preparedness who are always training, always planning, always preparing, regardless of how much their budget gets cut. I have toured the CDC, and I've seen all their plans. I have witnessed what was called a Vibrant Response. This is the homeland nuclear attack scenario, which was a coordination of FEMA, the Army, the National Guard, state and local officials, all working together in a massive war game to prepare us for a nuke. I have also witnessed what was called a Hurricane Rehearsal of Concept Drill, where not only did the same players come in but also bringing in our allies from Canada and Mexico.

So I have seen that we have countless dedicated professionals who think about this constantly. And they're ready to go, and they have not been activated.

GROSS: Why not? Like, who's supposed to activate them in a situation like this? How should that work?

MAX BROOKS: This all has to come from the federal government. This is why we have big government. Politically, you can argue about the role of big government in everyday society, but this is not everyday; this is an emergency. The entire reason that we have these networks is when the bells start ringing. And they have not been activated. I don't know. I'm not sitting in the White House. I don't know whether the president is being lied to, whether he is holding onto a political ideology. I honestly don't know. But there is no excuse not to mobilize the full forces of the federal government right now and to centralize the response.

GROSS: And I should mention here that we're recording this on Monday, and perhaps by the time this is broadcast, things will have changed and more will be activated. But at the very least, Max, you can say we've been slow to get started.

MAX BROOKS: I think that we have been disastrously slow and disorganized from Day 1. I think the notion that we were caught unaware of this pandemic is just an onion of layered lies. That is not true at all. We have been preparing for this since the 1918 influenza pandemic - no excuse. We saw what was happening in China. Incidentally, the Chinese crime - while they did not tell their own people about what was happening, they told the World Health Organization. The knowledge was out. We knew. We did not prepare. This is on us.

GROSS: How is it supposed to work? Like, judging from all the planning exercises you've witnessed and the meetings you've gone to, et cetera, et cetera, when there is a pandemic like we have now and we see it starting in another country, like China, and the pandemic in your book, "World War Z," starts in China, what are we supposed to be doing in the U.S. to mobilize, prepare and prevent the spread?

MAX BROOKS: What is supposed to happen is the federal government has to activate the Defense Production Act immediately. Now, what the Defense Production Act does is it allows the federal government to step in and aggressively force the private sector to produce what we need. And what is so critical in this is timing because you can't simply build factories from scratch. What you can do is identify a supply chain in order to make it work.

For example, if New York needs rubber gloves, New York cannot simply build rubber glove factories overnight. However, there might be a rubber glove factory in Ohio that could produce it, but they might not have the latex. So therefore the Defense Production Act allows the federal government to go to the condom factory in Missouri and say, listen - you have barrels of latex we need. We are requisitioning those. We are giving them to the rubber glove factory in Ohio, and then we are transporting the finished rubber gloves to New York. That's how it is supposed to work.

GROSS: That's a really good explanation. Now, I remember on Sunday, President Trump saying, well, you know, he didn't want to nationalize any of this because you could go to a company that knows nothing about making rubber gloves or whatever and, like, what sense would that make? But that's not the way it would work.



It in no way had to be this way.

And it stilll doesn't have to be like this.

 

[zeptron]

Even if Biden wins, we’ll have to wait until January before anything changes.

If Biden wins, I don't see Trump actually leaving quietly. Hell some of the latter's hardcore supporters will probably snap and do something drastic. This pandemic is already taking a toll on some people's mental health.

 

[terry78]

Hence why they need to take precautions.

 

[zeptron]

The most terrifying part is there is a disturbing number of Americans who downright worship this man with fanatical cultish devotion and believe he is the greatest president we’ve ever had. Don’t ask me how they believe that, but they do.

It still astounds me that he even became president to begin with and that the fact that a disingenuous reality TV star with 0 political experience, running on a racist, sexist platform, wanting to ban immigrants in a country built on immigration, insults people like a 3rd grader (based on looks, weight, ect) and brags about adultery attempts and tax evasion, is actually being taken seriously.

The man can't take any kind of criticism without either lashing out or going on a rant on his Twitter. I remember a few years ago after Meryl Streep called him out for making fun of a disabled reporter, he called her one of the most overrated actresses in Hollywood. When only just a couple of years before that he said that she was one of his most favorite actresses.

 

[Schlosser85]

If Biden wins, I don't see Trump actually leaving quietly. Hell some of the latter's hardcore supporters will probably snap and do something drastic. This pandemic is already taking a toll on some people's mental health.

They definitely need to take extra precautions against a Trump supporter trying to shoot Biden or setting off a bomb in the inauguration crowd or something.

 

[Iceman]

The most terrifying part is there is a disturbing number of Americans who downright worship this man with fanatical cultish devotion and believe he is the greatest president we’ve ever had. Don’t ask me how they believe that, but they do.

There’s still a not far off 40% approval rate for his handling of the pandemic. How in the hell does that happen?

 

[Schlosser85]

There’s still a not far off 40% approval rate for his handling of the pandemic. How in the hell does that happen?

People think children are being sex trafficked in the basement of a pizza restaurant in DC that doesn’t even have a basement. One man believed it so much he went there with a gun.

People think Bill Gates created the virus and “his” vaccine (which he isn’t creating either) is a plot to microchip everyone.

People think bigwig Democrats like Hillary Clinton and a bunch of celebrities like Tom Hanks are part of an elite cabal of pedophiles. They think JFK Jr is still alive and helping Trump take down the elite pedophile ring. They think the pandemic is cover for the authorities to be arresting all the elites, and the celebrities quarantined in their homes are actually under house arrest with ankle bracelets. Because A. Donald Trump of all people is on a crusade to wipe out sexual predators, and B. the whole world is manufacturing a fake global pandemic to arrest some pedophiles.

People think lizard people disguised as humans run the world. They think Obama and Queen Elizabeth are lizard people.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

David Nagy died from coronavirus. His wife wrote obit blaming Trump, Texas governor.

 

[Iceman]

People think children are being sex trafficked in the basement of a pizza restaurant in DC that doesn’t even have a basement. One man believed it so much he went there with a gun.

People think Bill Gates created the virus and “his” vaccine (which he isn’t creating either) is a plot to microchip everyone.

People think bigwig Democrats like Hillary Clinton and a bunch of celebrities like Tom Hanks are part of an elite cabal of pedophiles. They think JFK Jr is still alive and helping Trump take down the elite pedophile ring. They think the pandemic is cover for the authorities to be arresting all the elites, and the celebrities quarantined in their homes are actually under house arrest with ankle bracelets. Because A. Donald Trump of all people is on a crusade to wipe out sexual predators, and B. the whole world is manufacturing a fake global pandemic to arrest some pedophiles.

People think lizard people disguised as humans run the world. They think Obama and Queen Elizabeth are lizard people.

No idea how people can fall for this stuff, apart from the true parts about the lizard people.

 

[:eek:]

People think children are being sex trafficked in the basement of a pizza restaurant in DC that doesn’t even have a basement. One man believed it so much he went there with a gun.

People think Bill Gates created the virus and “his” vaccine (which he isn’t creating either) is a plot to microchip everyone.

People think bigwig Democrats like Hillary Clinton and a bunch of celebrities like Tom Hanks are part of an elite cabal of pedophiles. They think JFK Jr is still alive and helping Trump take down the elite pedophile ring. They think the pandemic is cover for the authorities to be arresting all the elites, and the celebrities quarantined in their homes are actually under house arrest with ankle bracelets. Because A. Donald Trump of all people is on a crusade to wipe out sexual predators, and B. the whole world is manufacturing a fake global pandemic to arrest some pedophiles.

People think lizard people disguised as humans run the world. They think Obama and Queen Elizabeth are lizard people.

So proud of living in this incredibly enlightened society of ours.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No idea how people can fall for this stuff, apart from the true parts about the lizard people.

Conspiracy theories are a hell of a drug,

 

[Gee]

 

[Schlosser85]

So do we think they only have a hundred cases yet or several hundred?

 

[Iceman]

Damn, schools are just too packed to be able to stop this.

 

[Zorro]

So only some kids have masks on and there's no social distancing. The new school year will pretty damn rough!

 

[Schlosser85]

So only some kids have masks on and there's no social distancing. The new school year will pretty damn rough!

Don't worry, the school year will be short.

 

[Schlosser85]

Today Ohio had 1,143 cases, up 211 from yesterday and the first time in 4 days we've been over 950 a day.

My zip code has had 56 total cases so far.

Governor DeWine mandated masks for all K-12 students.

 

[squeekness]

If Biden wins, I don't see Trump actually leaving quietly. Hell some of the latter's hardcore supporters will probably snap and do something drastic. This pandemic is already taking a toll on some people's mental health.

My brother in law is certain there will be rioting. I'm thinking there might be parades myself.