Should they recast T'Challa/Black Panther or make Shuri the new Panther?

Okoye should be the next black panther.

Under the suit, she would be just fine, as a character, it's going to be hard for some to warm to her, relate... it would alienate a lot of people.. unless they retcon the character.. which I do not want. she is worthy.

I think that this Shuri they made wouldn't lead a film or a major character. This is not a comment on Letitia Wright's acting, but Shuri was presented not only as a science genius and gear supplier to T'Challa, but also as a comic relief. I think if they intended she to lead the Black Panther persona some time in the future like Sam Wilson took the Captain America role, Shuri would have a little bit different personality since the beginning.

I agree, it changes the BP lore, Shuri needs growth and development.
 
I think I'd be okay with either option. Seeing someone like Shuri, Okoye or M'Baku pick up the mantle of Black Panther could be interesting. But I'd also wouldn't mind if they kept T'Challa as the main character. He's a beloved character and I don't think recasting him would be disrespectful to Boseman. It doesn't take anything away from Boseman's accomplishments or legacy to give some other black actor like, say, David Ajala, Aldis Hodge or Y'lan Noel a chance at stardom.
 
I prefer Nakia, as far as that goes.
 
This movie is getting postponed I feel. They were supposed to start filming this month. They have to either get a new actor and/or re-write the script. Plus, no one wants to be on set right now, understandably.
 
I won’t be surprised if they push the film to 2023 in order to weigh all options carefully.
 
I suspect BP2 gets pushed back to 2023 and Marvel will move Captain Marvel 2, Ant-Man 3, and GOTG3 up.
 
It can be tricky because they have plans in terms of when and how they set things up, but they'll just need to adjust.
 
No way in hell is it starting filming anytime in the immediate future.

They have to figure out what they're doing and find and cast a new T'Challa, or otherwise completely rewrite the script.

Plus it's way too soon for Boseman's co-stars and probably Coogler too to want to be on a set either acting their way around his absence or playing off of another actor they're having to pretend is still the same T'Challa.
 
This movie is getting postponed I feel. They were supposed to start filming this month. They have to either get a new actor and/or re-write the script. Plus, no one wants to be on set right now, understandably.

What? THR’s article from today says that it was going to start filming in March. If it was starting to film this month, Boseman would have been in costume fittings and table reads during these last weeks.
 
I think that this Shuri they made wouldn't lead a film or a major character. This is not a comment on Letitia Wright's acting, but Shuri was presented not only as a science genius and gear supplier to T'Challa, but also as a comic relief. I think if they intended she to lead the Black Panther persona some time in the future like Sam Wilson took the Captain America role, Shuri would have a little bit different personality since the beginning.

Yeah, and that’s why it could be compelling. The title gets thrust on someone who is doubted by everyone, even her family and herself as to if she’s ready. If she’s ready to fill the massive void her brother left.

As for the comic relief note...Shuri was comic relief when joking around with her family/lifelong friends. Tell her that her brother the king is dead and she now has this impossible legacy and responsibility to live up to, and you don’t think we’d IMMEDIATELY see her become a much more serious person?

Her character would be devastated and grieving, her cutting out the humor bits and eventually finding bits of dry humor again over time work for what the story and evolution would be.

Sure, if we’re talking four movies down the line with Shuri as Panther in the MCU, I could see her being a little more quippy than T’Challa would be in the same circumstances, but it’s possible.

Make a huge part of the story and marketing whether this character is capable of stepping up and living up, and let her earn over the course of the movie that climax that makes people go “THAT’S a f**king Black Panther”
 
What? THR’s article from today says that it was going to start filming in March. If it was starting to film this month, Boseman would have been in costume fittings and table reads during these last weeks.


Maybe I read that part wrong but it says Chad was going to start preparing for the film in September. Like get in shape.
 
If Boseman had died during filming the first one, should they recast before it's even released or finish the film using CGI and outtakes and then release it with him starring in it? Or would it simply have been easier in the long run to reshoot all footage with a new actor and have him continue the franchise?
 

Well, looks like Marvel were in the dark also. But I do think the articles gets one thing wrong, I honestly don't think the outcry would be as big if the actor was replaced, nor do I think other actors wouldn't want to take over the role. Using Shuri is like having Dick Grayson become Batman, she's a fun character but she's also a side character, plus it will lead to more delays as the script would have to be completely re-written.
 
Yeah, and that’s why it could be compelling. The title gets thrust on someone who is doubted by everyone, even her family and herself as to if she’s ready. If she’s ready to fill the massive void her brother left.

As for the comic relief note...Shuri was comic relief when joking around with her family/lifelong friends. Tell her that her brother the king is dead and she now has this impossible legacy and responsibility to live up to, and you don’t think we’d IMMEDIATELY see her become a much more serious person?

Her character would be devastated and grieving, her cutting out the humor bits and eventually finding bits of dry humor again over time work for what the story and evolution would be.

Sure, if we’re talking four movies down the line with Shuri as Panther in the MCU, I could see her being a little more quippy than T’Challa would be in the same circumstances, but it’s possible.

Make a huge part of the story and marketing whether this character is capable of stepping up and living up, and let her earn over the course of the movie that climax that makes people go “THAT’S a f**king Black Panther”

Here's the thing about T'Challa dying in the story - it draws too much attention to what happened in real life. If you construct your main character around what happened to the actor the film then effectively becomes a running meta commentary about real life events. That to me is not the right way to approach things because the entire time the film is going to be drawing attention to Boseman's death. When actors die prior to their films being completed the films usually go out of their way to not draw attention to it. If the focus point in a sequel is T'Challa's off screen death then you're putting real life events right into the audiences faces, and by doing this you're essentially keeping the wounds fresh and open. That's not even taking into account whether Shuri can be turned from quirky sidekick to lead character or whether audience even want to see that in the first place.
 
The movie will end up delayed. I think that is all but guaranteed at this point.

Yeah. It would not surprise me if Ryan Coogler walked either.

Disney will likely delay this a full year to account for script rewrites and whether to recast T’Challa or make Letitia Wright the heir apparent.
 
Well, looks like Marvel were in the dark also. But I do think the articles gets one thing wrong, I honestly don't think the outcry would be as big if the actor was replaced, nor do I think other actors wouldn't want to take over the role. Using Shuri is like having Dick Grayson become Batman, she's a fun character but she's also a side character, plus it will lead to more delays as the script would have to be completely re-written.

I think the reaction to a recast will be fine so long as Marvel waits many months to do it. Let emotions die down
 
There are some bigtime implications of Killing Off T'Challa. Most noteably in regards to T'Challa's inspirational and aspirational influence to young Black boys.

That they could finally see themselves as the inspiring hero. To just kill that character off..... there honestly aren't words.

So many people aren't seeing the big picture, it's unfortunate.

That's tough to consider, but I think it has to be noted that black children and people in general were probably able to see themselves in T'Challa in some ways. The film celebrated cultural impact in a way no superhero film had before. But the first film clearly wasn't only aimed at black boys. It's an unfortunate situation all the way around.

I think a lot of the calling to kill off T'Challa or threats to boycott Marvel/Disney if they recast the part are people's raw emotions giving them kneejerk reactions.

And it would be people's raw emotions that theoretically causes them to potentially reject whoever is cast in the role next, and endlessly compare them to Boseman, etc.

I think in time cooler heads will prevail and people will see that the character and what it represents to people is bigger than any one actor and killing off the character would be a disservice both to that and even to Chadwick.

I don't think anyone who thinks about it for even a brief period of time doesn't recognize this. It's not that simple...because people were clearly emotionally tied to him in the role.

I think that this Shuri they made wouldn't lead a film or a major character. This is not a comment on Letitia Wright's acting, but Shuri was presented not only as a science genius and gear supplier to T'Challa, but also as a comic relief. I think if they intended she to lead the Black Panther persona some time in the future like Sam Wilson took the Captain America role, Shuri would have a little bit different personality since the beginning.

Sam Wilson was in like three movies in barely a supporting role before becoming Captain America. There wasn't a lot of exploration of the concept of him stepping into the role at all.

I don't see why it's an issue that she has a different personality. The whole point is that she'd be someone else entirely as Black Panther. That's the story potential.


I think Marvel and Disney are right just paying tribute to Boseman and dealing with their grief, as opposed to rushing to make Black Panther 2.

They'll eventually find a path forward, but the best thing to do is to not make any major decisions in the midst of a worldwide mourning period in spite of those online who may want them to come up with answers right away.

Well, obviously. But putting this out through the media is also PR, which is why it's in Hollywood Reporter. And they're saying all the right things, but you can bet that they're going to be scrambling to figure it out. It will have to be delayed significantly. I don't know what you do if you don't acknowledge it that ultimately doesn't feel cheap or jarring if the movie comes out anytime soon. Disney being Disney, they'll probably go with the "time heals all wounds" approach, delay it and recast. But they have a chance to be bold and make some major statement, even in relation to ongoing sociocultural struggles.

I agree, it changes the BP lore, Shuri needs growth and development.

So did Klaw dying. This isn't the comics.

Any story where she became Black Panther would involve growth and development.

Yeah, and that’s why it could be compelling. The title gets thrust on someone who is doubted by everyone, even her family and herself as to if she’s ready. If she’s ready to fill the massive void her brother left.

Exactly. Let's face it, it may be pandering on the highest level, and it might be the highest grossing film they'd ever make.

Sure, if we’re talking four movies down the line with Shuri as Panther in the MCU, I could see her being a little more quippy than T’Challa would be in the same circumstances, but it’s possible.

Technically, we ARE four movies down the line from when Black Panther was introduced.

Make a huge part of the story and marketing whether this character is capable of stepping up and living up, and let her earn over the course of the movie that climax that makes people go “THAT’S a f**king Black Panther”

Exactly.

Here's the thing about T'Challa dying in the story - it draws too much attention to what happened in real life. If you construct your main character around what happened to the actor the film then effectively becomes a running meta commentary about real life events. That to me is not the right way to approach things because the entire time the film is going to be drawing attention to Boseman's death. When actors die prior to their films being completed the films usually go out of their way to not draw attention to it.

Yes, but I don't think there will be any way to avoid it. Even if you want the film to be pure escapism, recasting the character will have the fact that Boseman is no longer there staring you right in the face. It's pretty much all the media will be talking about, whether it's a new actor designed to honor Boseman's tradition in the role and cultural and social outreach work, or an existing cast member, or a new character entirely.

If the focus point in a sequel is T'Challa's off screen death then you're putting real life events right into the audiences faces, and by doing this you're essentially keeping the wounds fresh and open. That's not even taking into account whether Shuri can be turned from quirky sidekick to lead character or whether audience even want to see that in the first place.

Maybe. It doesn't have to be Shuri. It could be a whole Battle for the Mantle thing with various characters.[/QUOTE]
 
Well, looks like Marvel were in the dark also. But I do think the articles gets one thing wrong, I honestly don't think the outcry would be as big if the actor was replaced, nor do I think other actors wouldn't want to take over the role. Using Shuri is like having Dick Grayson become Batman, she's a fun character but she's also a side character, plus it will lead to more delays as the script would have to be completely re-written.

Especially if Chadwick wanted the character to continue with a new actor, I doubt black actors would turn down the role. In fact, knowing the cultural importance of the character/franchise, I think there could be a huge line for that role.

Having seen Jonathan Majors more in Lovecraft Country, I don't think he'd be that good of a choice. His voice sounds too young.
 
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There would be a line, which is all the more reason to recast. I don't like the idea of freezing a character and preventing someone else from taking it over simply because of what happened off screen. If the character is as important as what people believe, then you have to press forward. Not to put too fine a point on it, but whilst Boseman was the lead in the movie, I don't think what he did in the film was all that remarkable performance wise, not enough to warrant locking off the character entirely from another actor. You have to keep going otherwise the character just becomes a flash in the pan moment that later fades away.
 
There would be a line, which is all the more reason to recast. I don't like the idea of freezing a character and preventing someone else from taking it over simply because of what happened off screen. If the character is as important as what people believe, then you have to press forward. Not to put too fine a point on it, but whilst Boseman was the lead in the movie, I don't think what he did in the film was all that remarkable performance wise, not enough to warrant locking off the character entirely from another actor. You have to keep going otherwise the character just becomes a flash in the pan moment that later fades away.

Boseman was decent in BP, but outshone by Danai Gurira, Lupita Nyong’o, MBJ, Angela Bassett and Letitia Wright.

Does anyone think Nakia and not Shuri could be the next BP?
 
I would not be against the sequel starting with a meta moment of T'Challa's funeral and his impact on Wakanda (building bridges, not barriers).

Anyway, after the end of Infinity War, I always thought that there would be a power struggle in Wakanda due to the 5 year disappearance of T'Challa between Shuri and M'Baku. That could be a foundation of the sequel's plot.
 
There should be no other Black Panther than Tchalla.

Period.

Simply delay and Recast.

Black Panther 2 should not happen till Phase 6 with Recast
 
If they didn't want to feature T'challa in the sequel but didn't want to recast or kill him off, then they could set the sequel during that 5 year period where he disappeared and was presumed dead.

They could feature a different person taking up the mantle of Black Panther and even feature a funeral for T'challa as a way of honouring Boseman, but T'challa's death wouldn't be permanent because he'd be brought back by the infinity gauntlet.

Marvel could have their cake and eat it. They could test the waters to see how a new Panther would fare and have a gap to allow audiences to grieve (although by the time a film came out that should've been enough time). But they'd also be able to leave the door open for T'challa to return and to recast the character.
 
If they didn't want to feature T'challa in the sequel but didn't want to recast or kill him off, then they could set the sequel during that 5 year period where he disappeared and was presumed dead.

They could feature a different person taking up the mantle of Black Panther and even feature a funeral for T'challa as a way of honouring Boseman, but T'challa's death wouldn't be permanent because he'd be brought back by the infinity gauntlet.

Marvel could have their cake and eat it. They could test the waters to see how a new Panther would fare and have a gap to allow audiences to grieve (although by the time a film came out that should've been enough time). But they'd also be able to leave the door open for T'challa to return and to recast the character.

An interesting idea. But Shuri was blipped and Marvel can't afford to lose her in the sequel. There's also a question of whether or not audiences want to see stories set in that period now that we've come out the other end.
 

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