Justice League Zack Snyder Directing Justice League (The Snyder Cut Edition)

[MOVIELORD101]

To restate

I do believe WB should continue with DCEU but not with Snyder being the Architect.Give it to James Wan.

Have a Justice League Movie 2 directed by James Wan

HBO Max Man of Steel 2 and HBO Max Batman vs Deathstroke

HBO Max Cyborg directed by Zack Snyder

OR
Wonderwoman 3 directed by Zack Snyder

Zack doing WW? NO. Leave Patty Jenkins on.

 

[J.Drangal]

does the film actually suggest Darkside know that anti life is on earth?

I don’t remember exactly and have to watch again but I don’t think so
The confusion comes in where both Darkside and Steppenwolf smash the earth and have a similar result of lava in patterns.

Darkside smashes the earth to create lava flows to impede the earth defenders.

when Steppenwolf smashes the earth, it reveals the anti-life equation.

Yes. Darkseid and Steppenwolf saw the same pattern and during the History Lesson, Diana says that Darkseid found a "secret there, a power hidden in the infinity of space".

I love the film, but there's definitely a hole here. Not a big deal though, since there's plot holes in almost every big budget movies from these last years, so I'm starting to accept it ahah.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think everyone is getting ahead of themselves on both sides. Nothing is over or decided at this point. The movie just came out, and if fan support is positive and it keeps trending, then sequel talk may happen or maybe it won't. But that isn't happening overnight. Conversely, yes the plan may have been one and done. But this cut was never to happen at all, so plans can change. No one should be married to it not happening or happening either way. Time will tell the story. All anyone can do is support or not support the movie and wait.

No one should be a bully to make a sequel happen, and no one should be saying it is over and to move on. Neither side is inherently right or wrong. The market will decide what happens. Either this will blow up and make WarnerMedia change their minds or not. Just let it play out.

The Snyder Cut took YEARS to happen. Remember that guys.

 

[WBwins]

Zack doing WW? NO. Leave Patty Jenkins on.

I dont mind either way. Although I do think Zack would prefer to do Wonderwoman than Cyborg.
I think hes perfect for any of them from waht Ive seen

 

[gohei_]

Yes. Darkseid and Steppenwolf saw the same pattern and during the History Lesson, Diana says that Darkseid found a "secret there, a power hidden in the infinity of space".

I love the film, but there's definitely a hole here. Not a big deal though, since there's plot holes in almost every big budget movies from these last years, so I'm starting to accept it ahah.

If Steppenwolf had been the one to discover the ALE all this would have been much clearer.

 

[harlequinade]

God this article or interview or whatever was just atrocious, typical WB, they got so much hype and subscriptions and people wanting more and they go "nah, that's it. And how fast they shot down Ayer, poor man has no fans to go to battle for him lol

as for WW I'm still stunned about Patty doing certain things there (thanks so much for now lots of guys calling Wonder Woman a "rapist", brilliant move Patty) and after ZSJL I would actually prefer Snyder provided he gives up the whole 'amazons were raped!' angle. But the optics would be awful so that's not happening, nevermind Zatanna is being written by a woman who pandered to men in PYW more than I saw any man do in a very long time...

 

[souperman]

Yes. Darkseid and Steppenwolf saw the same pattern and during the History Lesson, Diana says that Darkseid found a "secret there, a power hidden in the infinity of space".

I love the film, but there's definitely a hole here. Not a big deal though, since there's plot holes in almost every big budget movies from these last years, so I'm starting to accept it ahah.

I don’t think they saw the same pattern. Darkside live a part pattern was just lava to scorch the earth and hold back defenders.

Diana’s line does suggest he knows something is there but maybe at that time he doesn’t know exactly.

Her line is also used as a plot device to move the story forward and tell us why he is interested in earth in the first place. I don’t think we are supposed to think so hard about it.

I agree many films are lazy when it comes to filling potholes. I don’t think filmmakers are that concerned with making perfect sense out of everything they do although you wouldn’t think it would take any more effort to find a better way of saying things. I’ve said it before. All it takes is creativity.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Zack doing WW? NO. Leave Patty Jenkins on.

Would a Snyder WW be a gamble? Yeah. But WW84 showed that Jenkins can also be very hit and miss.

 

[souperman]

If Steppenwolf had been the one to discover the ALE all this would have been much clearer.

He was actually.

As said above, I don’t think Darkside knew what the anti-life equation was yet. He might have known there was some unknown energy there and he was searching the universe for this ultimate power but because of the defiance and battle he was never able to confirm the ALE was there.

 

[gohei_]

He was actually.

As said above, I don’t think Darkside knew what the anti-life equation was yet. He might have known there was some unknown energy there and he was searching the universe for this ultimate power.

When Darkside strikes the earth in the history lesson, that is not the anti-life equation lava pattern.

Steppenwolf sees the exact same thing that DS does right? Because the Motherbixes are showing it to him.

 

[Micromind]

He doesn't need to have been at the invasion though to understand that lost Motherboxes on a seemingly faraway world is the same faraway world where, in the 'great defiance' Darkseid lost motherboxes.

We are going around in circles, but I can't understand how people can't see the gap in logic there...

My point is that Steppenwolf had no idea that the Planet where the 3 Motherboxes were lost contained ALE Why ? I dunno, maybe nobody told him that.

 

[Longshot777]

Yes. Darkseid and Steppenwolf saw the same pattern and during the History Lesson, Diana says that Darkseid found a "secret there, a power hidden in the infinity of space".

I love the film, but there's definitely a hole here. Not a big deal though, since there's plot holes in almost every big budget movies from these last years, so I'm starting to accept it ahah.

Yup unless there are other mother boxes out there that they lost.

 

[idiot09]

 

[idiot09]

Would a Snyder WW be a gamble? Yeah. But WW84 showed that Jenkins can also be very hit and miss.

Snyder doing WW3 will be extremely bad move, optics wise. Better to give him more clout as a producer like he had with the first WW movie. And also bring back Allan Heinberg as writer and kick out Johns.

I dont think Snyder has interest in doing any other project other than finish his JL arc. I think in the future if the stars align, he might make a very faithful adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns.

 

[souperman]

Steppenwolf sees the exact same thing that DS does right? Because the Motherbixes are showing it to him.

I just looked at YTs. It does look like the same pattern so I take that back.

Maybe since DS didn't "intentionally" try to uncover the pattern he didn't think it was anything other than lava to impede the enemy? He was at the beginning of a massive battle and maybe never was able to take note of the fact the ALE was there?

SW on the other hand (with 7 fingers) was told by the MBs to look...

 

[Primal Slayer]

Zack can help with the mythology of WW or the designs or fight scenes but other than that, he doesnt need to (and wont) direct WW. We good.

God this article or interview or whatever was just atrocious, typical WB, they got so much hype and subscriptions and people wanting more and they go "nah, that's it. And how fast they shot down Ayer, poor man has no fans to go to battle for him lol

Typical WB? Some act like they owe Snyder an arm and a leg. They gave him 3 films, and thus far there hasnt been anything about Max subscriptions going through the roof. They have to take into account the budget they gave him initially + 75 extra million. He isn't a James Wan who managed to bringin 1billion with Aquaman or Patty who brought in over $800mill with WW, both lesser characters to Batman and Superman.

As far as Ayer...if it wouldnt cost them anything, it wouldnt hurt but they also have a SS film to focus on and they arent going to take away from that (unless it fails).

 

[dhandler01]

More important than any of this:

Oh my God that is too hilarious!

 

[J.Drangal]

He was actually.

As said above, I don’t think Darkside knew what the anti-life equation was yet. He might have known there was some unknown energy there and he was searching the universe for this ultimate power.

When Darkside strikes the earth in the history lesson, that is not the anti-life equation lava pattern.

I'm sorry to contradict you so much ahah, but he know what he discovered because... well, that's the moment he discovered that power exists. He came to Earth and found this equation, but before learning to master it, he was defeated. He has been looking for it ever since.

My point is that Steppenwolf had no idea that the Planet where the 3 Motherboxes were lost contained ALE Why ? I dunno, maybe nobody told him that.

That would be totally acceptable though ! He could know about the defeat without knowing further details. My problem is that it's a bit unclear.


I'm rewatching the scenes right now, to try to make a little breakthrough on all this drama ahah :

- So Darkseid found the ALE on Earth, is defeated and lose track of the planet by losing the motherboxes. Acceptable imo.
- Then, Steppenwolf arrives on Earth, called by the abandoned motherboxes. Okay, but shouldn't he wonder how these end up here? Didn't that imply a previous defeat for Darkseid? And since this one only knew one defeat, wouldn't that establish this world being the famous one hidding the ALE? Imo, we need a clarification here to know if other boxes are lost on the universe or if they are utilized as a tools, randomly planted across the universe waiting the best time to start invasions. But it's not here.
- I thought Steppenwolf recognized the Amazons, but I was wrong, he called them first "defenders". Later, he hears them shouting "Amazons!" and from there he calls them that. So, it could work he never knew about them before and so, doesn't really know all the details from "The Great Defiance". But then, Desaad lines about the story being "well known" is a bit misleading.

There's a way to imagine that finding motherboxes isn't that big of a deal for Steppenwolf and that he may be the guy not having all the informations because of his past treason, but the problem is that we have to assume it. Not a deal breaker for me though. Way less than the plot hole in Aquaman with a riddle dated from the moment the Sahara was still a sea finding it's solution around the character of Romulus who lived "only" 2100 years ago... Come on guys, make an effort ahah

 

[Micromind]

I dont mind either way. Although I do think Zack would prefer to do Wonderwoman than Cyborg.
I think hes perfect for any of them from what Ive seen

Zack is not going to direct a DC movie any time soon, the way he was treated few years back. he may work for HBO Max though.

WB have (for different reasons) aliened several directors be it Zack Snyder, Chris Nolan, Ben Affleck, Denis Villeneuve, Rick Famuyiwa, Christopher Mcquarrie and maybe even Patty Jenkins.

I doubt that Zack wants to go back into toxic environment and be DC architect, James Wan and James Gunn have already refused that.

 

[harlequinade]

Zack can help with the mythology of WW or the designs or fight scenes but other than that, he doesnt need to (and wont) direct WW. We good.



Typical WB? Some act like they owe Snyder an arm and a leg. They gave him 3 films, and thus far there hasnt been anything about Max subscriptions going through the roof. They have to take into account the budget they gave him initially + 75 extra million. He isn't a James Wan who managed to bringin 1billion with Aquaman or Patty who brought in over $800mill with WW, both lesser characters to Batman and Superman.

As far as Ayer...if it wouldnt cost them anything, it wouldnt hurt but they also have a SS film to focus on and they arent going to take away from that (unless it fails).

Typical in sense of "stupid as hell". You don't say NO MORE less than a week when something that makes people scream "more!" releases. Yeah let's see how Wan does with Amber Heard on board and Patty with the follow up to the most hated movie in DC in years....

 

[souperman]

My point is that Steppenwolf had no idea that the Planet where the 3 Motherboxes were lost contained ALE Why ? I dunno, maybe nobody told him that.

DS didn't "intentionally" try to uncover the ALE pattern on Earth. He was searching the universe for it but when he reached Earth, he met resistance and never got to look for it. When he strikes the ground it is uncovered but he doesn't get time to absorb the meaning since the defenders attack immediately. He didn't think it was anything other than lava to impede the enemy. He was at the beginning of a massive battle and maybe never was able to take note of the fact the ALE was there?

SW on the other hand (with 7 fingers) was told by the MBs to look...

 

[Deck Rickard]

To restate

I do believe WB should continue with DCEU but not with Snyder being the Architect.Give it to James Wan.

Have a Justice League Movie 2 directed by James Wan

HBO Max Man of Steel 2 and HBO Max Batman vs Deathstroke

HBO Max Cyborg directed by Zack Snyder

OR
Wonderwoman 3 directed by Zack Snyder

I’m on board with this other than Snyder doing WW3. I know Jenkins stumbled with WW84 but I have no interest in seeing Snyder take over for her.

 

[harlequinade]

And James Wan....isn't he furious at them for the whole 'straight to streaming' situation? He has a new movie out soon and won't get huge profits because of that decision

 

[Primal Slayer]

Typical in sense of "stupid as hell". You don't say NO MORE less than a week when something that makes people scream "more!" releases. Yeah let's see how Wan does with Amber Heard on board and Patty with the follow up to the most hated movie in DC in years....

You do when you want to move on from something. WB is past Snyder leading the way of DC characters.

Wan will do just fine with Amber Heard just as Zack BROUGHT BACK Amber to shoot additional scenes. Im sure Patty will do just fine with WW as well, people think it was boring but no where near what BvS did to the DC franchise.

 

[harlequinade]

You do when you want to move on from something. WB is past Snyder leading the way of DC characters.

Wan will do just fine with Amber Heard just as Zack BROUGHT BACK Amber to shoot additional scenes. Im sure Patty will do just fine with WW as well, people think it was boring but no where near what BvS did to the DC franchise.

There's a difference to bring her back for a moment (though it's still gross) and her still being the female lead. Personally I saw the first one several times in cinemas and hyped it up so much to others. If the sequel includes that woman? No thanks.

"Boring" is the least of WW1984's issues in the eyes of many