Justice League Zack Snyder Directing Justice League (The Snyder Cut Edition)

[geosphere]

what did he say Greenlite, I don't see anything. Did I misunderstand what you said lol?

 

[Chip Chipperson]

lol it's getting mainstream now

the vibe on earth in 2021 is certainly different to 2017

It’s like the moviecirclejerk subreddit has seeped into the very fabric of our reality

we are living in truly strange times

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Ya we're seeing smoke, not quite the fire yet

Jason Kilar just tweeted, the army has bombarded him with toxic polite requests

WB: let's screenshot the 5 idiots and tell Variety

What was the tweet?

 

[Vaibow]

The way I look at it, if you count yourself among those who want to see Snyder's DC-verse continue, there are two main factors that need to line up before that happens.

1. Shared Interest. Assuming that Zack is willing to follow his vision through to completion, where does the rest of the original cast and crew stand on this? Ben, in particular, has a tendency to be indecisive about such matters, so there's no telling what he would want to do. Cavill is still involved with legal crap and the like. So, it goes w/o saying that he'd need to have all that crap sorted out, the sooner the better. Fisher's Cyborg, who arguably serves as the heart and soul of Snyder's JL, is likely done with Warner for the foreseeable future. Then there are other cast members. Would Amy Adams be interested in reprising her role as Lois? Let's say she's unable to return due to a scheduling conflict or what have you. Would people be okay with the role getting recast? I know some folks are fine with someone like Hamm replacing Ben, but what about Superman? If Henry can't come back, what then? I know everyone wants the original cast members to come back (ahem, most of them anyway, as I could probably live with Eisenberg getting replaced), but if we're being realistic, some of them won't be able to make it.

2. Viewership Metrics. When all the necessary data has been tabulated and examined by the finance guys at AT&T, how will those numbers translate as relates to new HBO Max subscribers? We already know that "the Cut" debuted with a fairly impressive performance, but the question remains. Just how massive was it? And will that be sufficient incentive for WB to invest even more money into potential sequels?

For me personally, it'd be a little weird to see this universe continue without heavy hitters like Affleck, Cavill and Gadot; Amy too. I mean, if we were on the cusp of getting something entirely new with a different director/creative team, that'd be different; but with Snyder involved, I'd want the overall experience to feel as familiar as possible. And having the main cast members on-board would go a long way toward getting that. Point being, that in the event of this not happening, I'd have to grin and bear it. And I suspect I wouldn't be the only one in that boat. lol

As for WarnerMedia, it won't be long before they have all of the relevant data in front of them. How they choose to act on this is, of course, beyond our control. So, we just have to wait it out a little and hope for the best, clichéd as that may sound.

The best thing ZS and WB et al can do is make an limited event series, maybe 4/5 episodes that closes off this saga.

Supergirl costs 3 mil per episode - 10 for the pilot, with that in mind, if they do something that costs a total of 50 million, then that's how I see it going... but flashpoint could change all that moving forward.

 

[DOBSON10]

I thought the Snyder Cut was significantly better than the Whedon Cut... The only Whedon scene I kind of missed was the opening Batman/Parademon scene. Almost all the other Whedon stuff that was removed was crap, just removing it made the movie better. I thought the Barry/Iris/Dog walker scene was awful but other than that I think the majority of what was added in the SC made the overall movie better and more developed.

But man, Snyder really does love throwing people into walls and leaving blood splatter behind. Happens quite a few times in this movie and happens a couple times in BvS too. And obviously he went full force with the slow-mo again, which gets tiresome after the first few times. I like Snyder overall but he definitely needs to refine alot of things.

Steppenwolf was much better, both in looks and dialogue/characterization. One nitpick, I wish the line "No protectors here, no Lanterns, no Kryptonian, this world will fall, like all the others" was directed at the League rather than a throw-away line in conversation with Desaad. In the original trailer that line hit harder, because I thought he would be threatening the League.

I think the Snyder Cut is a pretty solid movie, not without it's flaws but much, much better than the theatrical cut. I still like Man of Steel the most of the Snyderverse movies but this cut definitely made this the second best movie of the trilogy. Eisenlex ruins BvS.

That said, despite the fact I actually like Snyder, to an extent, and this movie washed some of that bad taste away from Whedon's cut, I'm not really interested in seeing the Snyderverse continue. One of my least favorite parts of this Trilogy was the Knightmare sequences, and the leaked storylines and ideas Snyder had for the sequels just aren't things I want to see.

 

[Superherofan123]

I thought the Snyder Cut was significantly better than the Whedon Cut... The only Whedon scene I kind of missed was the opening Batman/Parademon scene. Almost all the other Whedon stuff that was removed was crap, just removing it made the movie better. I thought the Barry/Iris/Dog walker scene was awful but other than that I think the majority of what was added in the SC made the overall movie better and more developed.

But man, Snyder really does love throwing people into walls and leaving blood splatter behind. Happens quite a few times in this movie and happens a couple times in BvS too. And obviously he went full force with the slow-mo again, which gets tiresome after the first few times. I like Snyder overall but he definitely needs to refine alot of things.

Steppenwolf was much better, both in looks and dialogue/characterization. One nitpick, I wish the line "No protectors here, no Lanterns, no Kryptonian, this world will fall, like all the others" was directed at the League rather than a throw-away line in conversation with Desaad. In the original trailer that line hit harder, because I thought he would be threatening the League.

I think the Snyder Cut is a pretty solid movie, not without it's flaws but much, much better than the theatrical cut. I still like Man of Steel the most of the Snyderverse movies but this cut definitely made this the second best movie of the trilogy. Eisenlex ruins BvS.

That said, despite the fact I actually like Snyder, to an extent, and this movie washed some of that bad taste away from Whedon's cut, I'm not really interested in seeing the Snyderverse continue. One of my least favorite parts of this Trilogy was the Knightmare sequences, and the leaked storylines and ideas Snyder had for the sequels just aren't things I want to see.

The ONLY scene I liked that was added was when Bruce said that Superman was more human than he was. “The world needs Superman, and the team needs Clark.”

 

[heatvision38]

I always took that line ("No protectors here...") as him giving a report (to either Desaad or Darkseid).

I hadn't thought of it the other way, but that's interesting, almost like he's saying, "You guys are nothing."

 

[Greenlite]

What was the tweet?

The ONLY scene I liked that was added was when Bruce said that Superman was more human than he was. “The world needs Superman, and the team needs Clark.”

I think Henry had some chirpy lines when he showed up in the climax, which showed Henry's persona and charm quite well. But I am not sure how he could do that with the scenario we got in ZSJL. All the charming lines went to Flash and Cyborg this time.

 

[Greenlite]

Hey, maybe instead of doing MOS2 etc before going to Knightmare and JL2 like some suggested, they could go with JL2 first (Sup would be the leader), then MOS2, then circle back to Knightmare as a prequel. If people want their hopeful Sup right now and can't wait. Just an option.

 

[shauner111]

It's funny that people are annoy by how violent Batman was in BvS and it disgusts them.

On the other hand, they see trailer for The Batman with Pattinson in which he constantly beating up a teenage gang member, and they are pleased. For them, it's the real Batman right there.

Fists vs bullets. How is that a good comparison?

 

[Black Narcissus]

Fists vs bullets. How is that a good comparison?

Eh, tis' all good, just don't have Batman give some winded line about not killing....then leaving the villain to die on a train.

 

[heatvision38]

Offensive

 

[TripleJ]

I think Snyder looked at the previous films and thought "Batman kills people a lot."
He then proceeding to have Batman kill people.

I think the same can be said for the destruction in MOS. Look at for example, the DCAU, in his fights with Captain Marvel and Darkseid, Superman is knocking them through buildings.
In the first Justice League episodes the tridpods wipe out a huge portion of Metropolis.
I think Snyder looked at this and just went with it.

Snyder didn't invent this stuff.

It's different in live action, I suppose. As you said, part of Metropolis was wiped out in JLTAS, but it doesn't come off as damaging as the battle in MOS. Zack also goes out of his way to make it more visceral - showing us the blood (WW fight scene in JL).

 

[Greenlite]

Or grenade in the pants, with a smile on the face

 

[Greenlite]

Offensive

I don't get what his tweet means

 

[Black Narcissus]

I don't get what his tweet means

Tis' obviously a reference as to the destruction in MOS. If you zoom in, one can see Superman's face in the clouds. Same with all the good boy, milk drinking farmboy attitude from Kansas. Zoom in on the building on the right, 12th floor, big round table in there, 6 chairs, all of them eating delicious pizza. No Superman needed, but room for more.

 

[Aurakles]

It's different in live action, I suppose. As you said, part of Metropolis was wiped out in JLTAS, but it doesn't come off as damaging as the battle in MOS. Zack also goes out of his way to make it more visceral - showing us the blood (WW fight scene in JL).

Something Snyder has talked about in several interviews is wanting to show the consequences of violence.
He's giving us the superhero violence we're used to, but without the make up hiding what that violence would involve.

 

[kguillou]

Whats that Kilar tweet implying?

 

[Captain Tired]

It's implying that jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams.

 

[Vaibow]

I thought the Snyder Cut was significantly better than the Whedon Cut... The only Whedon scene I kind of missed was the opening Batman/Parademon scene. Almost all the other Whedon stuff that was removed was crap, just removing it made the movie better. I thought the Barry/Iris/Dog walker scene was awful but other than that I think the majority of what was added in the SC made the overall movie better and more developed.

But man, Snyder really does love throwing people into walls and leaving blood splatter behind. Happens quite a few times in this movie and happens a couple times in BvS too. And obviously he went full force with the slow-mo again, which gets tiresome after the first few times. I like Snyder overall but he definitely needs to refine alot of things.

Steppenwolf was much better, both in looks and dialogue/characterization. One nitpick, I wish the line "No protectors here, no Lanterns, no Kryptonian, this world will fall, like all the others" was directed at the League rather than a throw-away line in conversation with Desaad. In the original trailer that line hit harder, because I thought he would be threatening the League.

I think the Snyder Cut is a pretty solid movie, not without it's flaws but much, much better than the theatrical cut. I still like Man of Steel the most of the Snyderverse movies but this cut definitely made this the second best movie of the trilogy. Eisenlex ruins BvS.

That said, despite the fact I actually like Snyder, to an extent, and this movie washed some of that bad taste away from Whedon's cut, I'm not really interested in seeing the Snyderverse continue. One of my least favorite parts of this Trilogy was the Knightmare sequences, and the leaked storylines and ideas Snyder had for the sequels just aren't things I want to see.

I'm on the same thinking as you...

however, moving forward, I want to get away from the dark filter and environment this movie and I guess those before (BvS in particular) gave us.

I loved AM's portrayal in this... I forget how it was in JLTC, but it was a good take.

Bruce was perfect to me.

Superman/Clark, he didn't have much meat to go on, but it sets up classic superman.

The only saving grace is the fact that the knightmare scenes all happened in Bruce's 3rd eye (mind). So technically it doesn't need to happen, esp if flashpoint changes things.

I would do The Batman v Deathstroke movie/limited series on HBO. It can be before the events of FP if rumours of him dying are true.

Then I would focus on a mos2 set in day light. where the daily planet is the main location for the heart.

 

[Jekecy]

Whats that Kilar tweet implying?

 

[shauner111]

I still don’t think Manganiello is the right actor to be a main villain in a Batman movie. His screentime in ZSJL was enough for me lol.

 

[Captain Tired]

@shauner111 You just lost some of your street cred for saying all those nice things about ZSJL in a TDK thread of all places.

 

[Greenlite]

Battinson & Black Superman?

 

[DCnightwing23]

Zack's plan to eventually have Superman be the leader just reminded me that we could've seen more of these sorts of moments with him and the team

His presence in this scene (MOS) reminded me of Evans as Captain America leading the charge, and I loved it so much.