Eternals Rotten Tomatoes watch thread

[Spider-Aziz]

Really? I thought it was commonly accepted that superhero films leaving behind Joel Schumacher's Batman aesthetic was a good thing.

Schumacher kept Batman Returns aesthetic and cranked it up to 30, with rubber nipples.
2000's X-Men opted for leather suits instead of comic based suits, their costume changes are the equivalent of making the Iron Man suit a compact fighter jet with shorter wings and smaller missiles.

Little did the idiot who wrote this post back then know how badly it would age….

You're having a lot of fun laughing at that post.
Can't say I blame you for thinking that way back then, who knew an MCU entry would get hit this hard by the Tomatonator?

 

[MasterBoss]

Changing the color of X-Men's uniforms is urinating on the comic books?
Now that's what I call excessive hyperbole.

Even beyond that, the black leather suits look really ugly, and they're also incredibly restrictive on the actors too. There's a funny BTS video where the actors can't hop over a ledge with the suits.

I can respect Singer for taking a serious approach to the x-men which was needed, but his overall vision and filmmaking style wasn't a good fit. He sucked out all the color from the frame, and removed a lot of the fun from X-Men. The funny banter between Wolverine and Cyclops (You're a dick, prove it) was a Joss Whedon addition.

X2 was better in that regard, but it still suffered from some really bland aesthetics. I don't even hold X-Men First Class in that high regard, but part of the reason why people like that movie so much is because it interjected the franchise with some much needed color and fun.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

So apparently, Eternals has got B Cinemascore.

Had a feeling that'd be the case, especially with how lackluster I thought the trailers were and the complaints about the film I've seen from many on Twitter who saw the film.

 

[Holy Slapper]

84% Audience Reaction after 2500+ reviews.

 

[rashad]

Audience raiting down to 81%.

 

[Dr.]

The Hollywood Reporter cites Jack Kirby and Zack Snyder in an interesting little essay...

Why Eternals is Dividing Audiences

 

[Prison Mike]

The Hollywood Reporter cites Jack Kirby and Zack Snyder in an interesting little essay...

Why Eternals is Dividing Audiences

I like the article up until they started to push the narrative that the movie was receiving bad reviews because Chloe is a woman and of color. Not everything has to be about gender or race. Can’t people just accept that some just didn’t like the movie?

 

[Hannibal75]

I'm genuinely surprised that nobody has mentioned what I consider the most legitimate criticism of the movie. Eternals should have definitely been a standalone film with no connection to the MCU. I believe this would have solved many problems.
For example, I think the introduction of Celestials has rendered most Avengers useless. What are Spiderman and War Machine going to do if Arishem decides to destroy earth? Punch him in the nose?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

You call in the EXPERTS.

 

[Dr.]

I like the article up until they started to push the narrative that the movie was receiving bad reviews because Chloe is a woman and of color. Not everything has to be about gender or race. Can’t people just accept that some just didn’t like the movie?

That’s a fair comment, I think. Initially, the writer had a clear thesis. Agree or disagree, he was putting his cards on the table. Later on, however, he seemed to be throwing different stuff at the wall (hoping more would stick). And this muddied the waters to an extent. E.g., if Zhao and Snyder are fellow iconoclasts (a valid claim, methinks) then their sex and ethnicity would seem to be irrelevant. (Last time I checked, Snyder wasn’t a woman of color ).

 

[Prison Mike]

That’s a fair comment, I think. Initially, the writer had a clear thesis. Agree or disagree, he was putting his cards on the table. Later on, however, he seemed to be throwing different stuff at the wall (hoping more would stick). And this muddied the waters to an extent. E.g., if Zhao and Snyder are fellow iconoclasts (a valid claim, methinks) then their sex and ethnicity would seem to be irrelevant. (Last time I checked, Snyder wasn’t a woman of color ).

I did think the beginning part of the article was really interesting. Seems like Jack Kirby’s original run of The Eternals was equally divisive among the comic readers. Then the writer mentioned Snyder and his divisive take on Superman and how Zhao was influenced by his take as well as Kirby. So we now we have Zhao who adapts a divisive comic into a movie and openly admits her inspiration is another director who has a history of divisive films and THR is still wondering why there’s mixed reviews…yup got to be because she’s a woman of color.

 

[Detective Conan]

I like the article up until they started to push the narrative that the movie was receiving bad reviews because Chloe is a woman and of color. Not everything has to be about gender or race. Can’t people just accept that some just didn’t like the movie?

I mean the claim that the movie is getting bad reviews because of the director’s race and gender makes no sense. The vast majority of the critics who gave the movie bad reviews gave good reviews to Zhao’s previous work, and most of criticisms pertain to the film itself.

Audience raiting down to 81%.

There’s this misleading narrative that MCU stans are pushing that the audience is liking this movie better than critics, but with the lukewarm B Cinemascore(the exact same score BvS and Green Lantern got) and the fact the audience score for RT is going down seems to indicate audiences are actually more in line with the critics than they would want to admit. Which suggests this movie is going to take a rather steep drop in its second weekend. Especially given it’s length. I knew there was red flags the moment I saw some of the initial reactions say this movie didn’t make them want to watch it again. I always saw that as a potential sign of what was to come with casual audience reactions to this film.

Imagine this movie suffers a big drop-off next weekend of 68% then that would indicate audiences really aren’t liking this film. Unlike with the cases of Black Widow where you could easily chalk up its step decline to its simultaneous Disney Plus release and rising covid cases, this movie won’t have that excuse with Covid situation having been improved since then and it being a theatrical only release.

 

[Micromind]

I did think the beginning part of the article was really interesting. Seems like Jack Kirby’s original run of The Eternals was equally divisive among the comic readers. Then the writer mentioned Snyder and his divisive take on Superman and how Zhao was influenced by his take as well as Kirby. So we now we have Zhao who adapts a divisive comic into a movie and openly admits her inspiration is another director who has a history of divisive films and THR is still wondering why there’s mixed reviews…yup got to be because she’s a woman of color.

So, blame goes to Snyder ?

 

[metaphysician]

I'm genuinely surprised that nobody has mentioned what I consider the most legitimate criticism of the movie. Eternals should have definitely been a standalone film with no connection to the MCU. I believe this would have solved many problems.
For example, I think the introduction of Celestials has rendered most Avengers useless. What are Spiderman and War Machine going to do if Arishem decides to destroy earth? Punch him in the nose?

. . . this is kind of the case with Marvel Comics, and has been for literally decades. Yes, there are villains or threats that are wildly out of the power scale for some heroes. They are thus handled by. . . different people, like Dr Strange or the Fantastic Four or the Silver Surfer. Why is this supposed to be a problem? For that matter, how is this supposed to be a new thing? Spider-man and War Machine are largely useless against Dormammu, Ego, or frankly Thanos, too.

 

[Hannibal75]

. . . this is kind of the case with Marvel Comics, and has been for literally decades. Yes, there are villains or threats that are wildly out of the power scale for some heroes. They are thus handled by. . . different people, like Dr Strange or the Fantastic Four or the Silver Surfer. Why is this supposed to be a problem? For that matter, how is this supposed to be a new thing? Spider-man and War Machine are largely useless against Dormammu, Ego, or frankly Thanos, too.

The comics are the comics and the movies are the movies. What works in the former, might not work at all in the latter.

 

[Detective Conan]

I did think the beginning part of the article was really interesting. Seems like Jack Kirby’s original run of The Eternals was equally divisive among the comic readers. Then the writer mentioned Snyder and his divisive take on Superman and how Zhao was influenced by his take as well as Kirby. So we now we have Zhao who adapts a divisive comic into a movie and openly admits her inspiration is another director who has a history of divisive films and THR is still wondering why there’s mixed reviews…yup got to be because she’s a woman of color.

Here’s another article that I think you might like:



Recommend others read this as well.

 

[Prison Mike]

Here’s another article that I think you might like:



Recommend others read this as well.

Thanks, that was a good article

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I did think the beginning part of the article was really interesting. Seems like Jack Kirby’s original run of The Eternals was equally divisive among the comic readers. Then the writer mentioned Snyder and his divisive take on Superman and how Zhao was influenced by his take as well as Kirby. So we now we have Zhao who adapts a divisive comic into a movie and openly admits her inspiration is another director who has a history of divisive films and THR is still wondering why there’s mixed reviews…

What I'll say here might be contradicting to something I've said elsewhere, but you can take rough source material and make a good adaption out of it, at least if the filmmakers studied the source material properly and had some plans that could salvage the ruins.

Chloe Zhao needed better planning for this one.

 

[samsnee]

I'm genuinely surprised that nobody has mentioned what I consider the most legitimate criticism of the movie. Eternals should have definitely been a standalone film with no connection to the MCU. I believe this would have solved many problems.
For example, I think the introduction of Celestials has rendered most Avengers useless. What are Spiderman and War Machine going to do if Arishem decides to destroy earth? Punch him in the nose?

Meh. That’s like saying because we have countries that can launch a nuclear weapon, why do need local cops? Different threats require different types of heroes.

 

[Detective Conan]

What I'll say here might be contradicting to something I've said elsewhere, but you can take rough source material and make a good adaption out of it, at least if the filmmakers studied the source material properly and had some plans that could salvage the ruins.

Chloe Zhao needed better planning for this one.

A good example of the MCU elevating weak source material would probably be Ant-Man who’s never had an iconic run, or well beloved run to draw upon as source material but Marvel managed to make a passable movie out it despite that.

In fact, if you want to look at non-MCU examples of this look at Jaws. Steven Spielberg managed to make arguably the greatest movie of all time from the original Jaws book which Patton Oswalt himself said was the worst book he’s ever read.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Here’s another article that I think you might like:



Recommend others read this as well.

I get his point but writing that whole piece to just say that he doesn't like being called sexist or racist because he criticizes films that have diversity in them feels like an overreaction. Just criticize the movies. If you yourself know you're not doing it because of bigoted reasons then who cares.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

This is weird but apparently Facebook doesn’t like positive posts about the movie…

 

[The Chris]

They called my post spam just for checking in to a theatre and saying I’m watching it. That’s the second time Facebook has done that.

 

[Micromind]

People have complained about random FB censorship over mundane topics before but this is baffling.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Has Zuckerberg secretly sold Facebook to a Chinese company?