Conan on TBS

Craig Ferguson on Conan makes sense. Craig is produced by David Letterman and Conan has always idolized Letterman.
 
loved that both Conan AND Chris used that audience kid's hat on the show :awesome:.
 
You could tell Conan felt uncomfortable with Chris' year old NBC jokes.
 
Almost finished the Late Night Wars book, right at the point where Conan sent out his message that he wasn't going to do The Tonight Show at 12:05 and the reaction from NBC. Even though all the details are out there its a great read to fill you in on all the behind the scene matters. Maybe because there was a happy ending more or less but for any Conan fan I recommend it as its almost acts a as a biography from his days at Harvard to Chicago to SNL to The Simpsons to Late Night and finally The Tonight Show. Plus it gives information on what Jay was doing all this time, trying to get Kimmel to stay at ABC if he came over, rejecting every idea NBC had but still wanting to work.

Conan 2.0
February 10, 2011 5:00 AM

How a late-night Luddite accidentally fought his way back into bedrooms (and computers, smartphones, and tablets) across America.

By Douglas Alden Warshaw, contributor

Conan O'Brien is in his bedroom. It's a little bit past 11 p.m., and he's shyly, hesitantly, nervously attempting to do his first webcast. But he keeps getting interrupted. And it's driving him crazy. "Get out of my room! Get out of my room! This is private!" O'Brien's embarrassed, and he's yelling at the top of his lungs. "Everybody get out!!!"

Okay, that's part of a skit from O'Brien's new late-night show, Conan, on TBS. But, almost exactly a year ago, more than a few people in the media business thought that O'Brien, freshly tossed off The Tonight Show by NBC after only seven months on the job, just might have to sit in his bedroom for a long time, and that performing a show on the web might actually be his only option. That was until more than a million people, most of them ages 18 to 49, started shouting, "We want Coco!" and the reinvention of Conan O'Brien from traditional television performer to multimedia brand began.

O'Brien's audience came to his rescue in a way that was inconceivable until it happened. In fact, it was inconceivable even while it was happening.

O'Brien's brief tenure on The Tonight Show began in May 2009 with ratings so high that Jeff Zucker, then president and CEO of NBC Universal, proclaimed him the "new king of late night." But the new king wore his crown uneasily, in part because the old king, Jay Leno, had been installed almost directly in front of him with a new show at 10 o'clock that was supposed to revolutionize primetime and, instead, ended up revolting the NBC affiliates. NBC's solution to the crisis was to offer Leno his old time slot back for another new, half-hour show, and push The Tonight Show back from 11:35 p.m. to 12:05 a.m. Informed of the plan, O'Brien considered his options and, five days later, on Jan. 12, 2010, hit the send button on an e-mail he'd stayed up most of the night composing at home. The e-mail began "People of the Earth" and made it clear to everyone that he was unwilling to host a Tonight Show that actually started tomorrow. And that's half the story of the beginning of the social-media revolution that forever changed the landscape of late-night TV.

The other half?

By pure coincidence, at the same time Conan O'Brien was working on his e-mail in his Brentwood home, just about a 30-minute car ride away a 25-year-old graphic artist and diehard fan named Mike Mitchell was also pulling an all-nighter at home, creating a graphic image of his hero standing in front of an American flag, emblazoned with the words I'M WITH COCO. The image was reminiscent of the Obama poster created by Shepard Fairey, and the name "Coco" was a nickname coined by Tom Hanks when he was the second guest on O'Brien's Tonight show. (It is a nickname Conan dislikes -- the first time he heard it, he told Hanks, "That catches on, I'll sue you" -- but catch on it did.) Mitchell posted his "I'm with Coco" image on his own site, then created a new "I'm with Coco" Facebook page and Twitter account, and then at 4 a.m. he went to bed. When he woke up at noon, he was shocked to discover that more than 30,000 people were following his new Twitter feed, close to 10,000 had clicked LIKE on his new Facebook page, and an untold number were making his "I'm with Coco" graphic their own profile picture on Facebook. Two days later, "I'm with Coco" had 185,000 Twitter followers, and just a week after Mitchell's all-nighter the number was 700,000.

That was barely a year ago, but it was before most television executives understood what Twitter was. In fact, it was before Conan O'Brien, age 47, understood what Twitter was. "I'm a Luddite when it comes to computers," says the man who keeps a bust of Teddy Roosevelt prominently in his office. "I didn't do Twitter. Didn't understand why anyone would do Twitter. I'm not on Facebook." But now, suddenly, NBC executives were telling O'Brien to "stop it," and O'Brien was saying, "Stop what? It's not me." And it wasn't. It was Gen X and Gen Y.

Conan discovers the digital divide

"This is something about myself as a performer that I've never understood," says O'Brien, who tries to understand everything about himself. "When I started doing television, I always thought I was doing it for my peers, and I quickly found out that the real hard-core fans were much younger than me." O'Brien's younger audience then and now is on the digital side of the digital divide. It's an audience that doesn't want to be just an audience -- they want to be participants. They love being connected to one another and to the celebrity objects of their affection; they love posting and creating and remixing. Culturally they're very different from the baby boomers who watch most network television -- and the boomers who program network television -- and they're a bit pissed off at them too. And that meant that, as much as they loved Conan, they were equally pissed off at Jay Leno:

I think Conan O'brien is 10 times funnier and better than Leno.. I say he stays and Leno goes. time for Leno to retire. Who is with me on this

"The boomers have overstayed their welcome," declares the man credited by many with creating the phrase "viral video," Douglas Rushkoff, the author most recently of Program or Be Programmed, a book about digital media. "Generation X is finally at the stage where they can have the jobs the boomers had, and the economy crashes. There's nothing left for them: There's no Social Security; there's nowhere to invest. Conan was a great stand-in for the frustration with this never-ending boomer legacy."

"There was this huge explosion online of protests and anger, but also creativity," O'Brien says. "People were making really funny art and posters." A statistical breakdown of comments tweeted found almost 40% to be anti-NBC and anti-Leno. "It overwhelmed them," O'Brien's agent, Rick Rosen, says. "And to this day it's affected the perception of NBC and Jay Leno." Indeed, though O'Brien's new show is on basic cable, on occasion it has beaten Leno's Tonight Show in the ratings demographic that advertisers love, those 18 to 49. Its viewers have a median age of 31, more than 24 years younger than Leno's or David Letterman's. For advertisers that's a remarkable statistic.

Thanks to Twitter and Facebook, and the fact that America loves to watch a car wreck, during the last two weeks of O'Brien's Tonight Show, fan rallies spontaneously sprouted up all across the country (mostly outside NBC affiliates), and O'Brien's ratings shot up. But O'Brien's letter to the people of the earth -- which in the digital age turned out to be a letter read by tens of millions -- and his refusal to move the Tonight Show to 12:05, meant it was over. And on Jan. 23, after taping his last broadcast, Conan O'Brien, a guy who had been a staple of late-night television for 17 years, no longer had a show. Nor did he have a Facebook or Twitter account yet. But he did have a $45 million payout from NBC -- $32.5 million for himself and $12.5 million for his staff, over 50 of whom had moved with him from New York, where Late Night With Conan O'Brien was produced, to Los Angeles to work on The Tonight Show less than a year earlier. Still, O'Brien's heart and mind remained planted in old media.

Conan discovers Twitter

"You know that scene in the first Indiana Jones movie where he gets thrown through the truck windshield by a Nazi? I was thrown through the windshield of broadcasting," O'Brien says, a bit wistfully. "I made a decision and that decision very quickly led to me walking away from the crown jewel of old broadcasting and, in addition to that, being legally prohibited from going on television." NBC's final separation agreement prohibited O'Brien from performing a show on another network for eight months, until September of last year, and from making disparaging comments about NBC Studios, Jay Leno, Jeff Zucker, and a small group of other NBC executives. "What was interesting about it," points out O'Brien, "is that all the legal prohibitions were coming from people in the old media. They were saying you can't do all these things, and pretty quickly we realized, 'Wait a minute!' Someone said, 'Does that include Twitter? No. It doesn't include Twitter.' And so I started tweeting."

Around seven o'clock in the morning on Feb. 24, 2010 -- a day that lives in social-media history -- O'Brien, sitting in his living room with his core team, including his longtime executive producer, Jeff Ross, and his former show blogger, Aaron Bleyaert, opened up a Twitter account, typed fewer than 140 characters, and hit the SEND TWEET button:

Today I interviewed a squirrel in my backyard and then threw to commercial. Somebody help me.

Bleyaert, who has his own massive following on Twitter, quickly re-tweeted it. The next thing he knew "it was like a skyrocket!" Every minute or so Bleyaert would refresh his browser, and O'Brien's account would have hundreds of new followers. Every minute. For hours. "I'm just sitting there laughing and laughing. I'm like, 'You guys, this is insane.' And they're like, 'Okay.' And I was like, 'No! You have no idea how crazy this is!' "

O'Brien shakes his head at the memory. "Aaron's saying, 'You're up to 250,000' or something, and I would say, 'I don't know what that means.' " It meant that O'Brien was setting the single-day record for gathering followers on Twitter.

Just as quickly, O'Brien's team began to hear that NBC was far from happy. "The network isn't crazy about you tweeting. They're not sure that's cool," O'Brien recalls being told. His response was simple: "Tell them I would be thrilled if they shut down my Twitter account. I'd love it if that got out. You think PR's been bad up till now? Wait till you take away my Twitter account." Today O'Brien laughs at the old-media disconnect of that moment: He is approaching 2.5 million followers.

Read Conan's tweets to his fans

O'Brien's next step was to give himself a job, hosting a traveling show he called the "Legally Prohibited From Being Funny on Television Tour." He did it to support his staff, especially his show's eight-piece band, which had not received a severance package from NBC; to try to keep himself relevant; and to accommodate his wife, who wanted him out of the house.

Ross and the rest of the team booked a 30-city tour. They had a website built for ticket orders, acquired a sponsor (American Express (AXP)), and began to talk about the advertising budget for the tour. That's when Ross, six years older than Conan and up to then just as mired in old media, matter-of-factly said, "Let's hold off on taking any ads and just tweet it out." Now it's Ross's turn to shake his head. "People looked at me like I was crazy. But I was like, 'What's the risk? If it doesn't work in two days, we can advertise.' And it turned out to be a good idea."

Actually, it turned out to be an amazing idea.

Hey Internet: I'm headed to your town on a half-assed comedy & music tour. Go to http://TeamCoco. com for tix. I repeat: it's half-assed.

In a matter of hours, both New York shows at Radio City Music Hall had sold out. Then, across the country, one show after another sold out. And then the site crashed. "The first day we sold, like, 120,000 tickets," Ross recalls. "We spent no money on advertising." The tour sold out in a couple of days. Once again, Conan had typed fewer than 140 characters, only this time he had changed the concert promotion business forever. O'Brien was definitely keeping himself relevant.

Conan discovers that performing now means engaging

O'Brien mobbed by fans in Seattle on his "Legally Prohibited From Being Funny on Television Tour"

The tour lasted 60 days, and before it was over O'Brien and Ross's outlook on new media and social networking and what it all could mean for their next television show had completely changed. Suddenly O'Brien wasn't just performing for fans; he was also engaging in a conversation with them.

Just before each show Bleyaert would tweet a new hashtag (which allowed Twitter users to form a single conversation stream that everyone in the audience could follow), and then members of O'Brien's team would monitor the tweets from audience members to one another. Between his bits, O'Brien would come backstage and ask, "How's the tweets? How's the audience?" By reading the hashtag stream, Bleyaert recalls, O'Brien and his team could see, for example, that "some guy in the fifth row was using Twitter to try and pick up a 'girl in the white hat, three rows in front of the stage,' " and O'Brien would instantly incorporate that into his next bit. He was tapping into his improvisational roots -- he had been a member of the Groundlings, the legendary Los Angeles improv group whose alumni include Will Ferrell, Phil Hartman, Laraine Newman, and Jimmy Fallon -- but now he was "improv-ing" based on digital information gathered in real time.

For O'Brien and his team, the tour was a digital baptism. Bleyaert remembers thinking, "It was like he was thrown off one stage into the great digital mosh pit, and all his digital fans are passing him around, and then they threw him back up on stage. And he was changed."

By the start of the tour, O'Brien had a new deal for an 11 p.m. show on TBS (which is owned by Time Warner (TWX), which is also the parent company of Fortune). The budget is smaller than that at NBC -- TBS puts up $45 million a year, vs. The Tonight Show budget of $75 million (every member of O'Brien's 100-person staff took pay cuts, some as much as 20%) -- but O'Brien is in control of all the on-air creative and, just as important, all the digital use of his content. He and his production company Conaco own the show. Among the other late-night talent -- Leno, David Letterman, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, Craig Ferguson, and Jimmy Fallon -- Letterman is the only host who owns his show. It's the opposite of O'Brien's setup at NBC, says Ross, a partner in the company. "Conaco owns the show, and TBS is a participant. At Tonight, NBC owned the show, and we were participants." And ownership makes all the difference for O'Brien and his team.

Team Coco, not TBS, chooses which clips to use, edits them, and posts them. Preview clips from each night's taping go up an hour before the show's East Coast broadcast; within an hour after the show's West Coast broadcast more than a half-dozen clips from that night's show are posted on its site and Facebook, and linked to via Twitter; and the full show is viewable online the next day at 11 a.m. Eastern time. Last year at The Tonight Show Bleyaert had tried to get pre-show clips posted, but even that seemingly simple idea was difficult to execute because NBC.com ran the show's site, and putting up such clips wasn't part of its normal workflow process. "After the experience that we had at NBC, we wanted to be in control," says O'Brien's agent, Rosen. "We wanted the freedom to exploit our content."

To fully utilize his content digitally, O'Brien started a second company, Team Coco. There's no TBS show site. Instead, TBS funds the new company's first $2 million of expenses and participates in any profits. Team Coco is now a studio of eight Gen X and Gen Y employees, all except Bleyaert hired by new GM–executive producer John Wooden, a self-described "mega-nerd who specializes in producing allegedly entertaining digital media" and has started or run a dozen or so sites, including Jokes.com, Maxim.com, and WhiteHouse.org. Wooden, 39, views Conan above all as a brand, and his social networks as a content system through which to carry the brand as far and wide as possible. Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Foursquare, Flickr, and Tumblr (a blogging/ sharing site) are what Wooden calls core "content satellites."

All told, Team Coco touches more than 5 million people each month, many of them primarily consumers of O'Brien's brand of humor online. "A lot of television executives still have the idea that a show is something everybody watches," O'Brien says using an old-fashioned voice: " 'Let's gather around the TV set and watch it, and then let's talk about it with all our friends at work tomorrow.' Well, your friends didn't watch the same show that you did, and they also didn't watch it at the same time." And it no longer bothers O'Brien if that's the case with his show. As long as they're consuming it, any time, any place will do.

O'Brien and his team have taken this message to the Hollywood PR machine, which looks at them as digital pioneers instead of guys who got to the party late. Weeks before Conan made its debut on TBS, O'Brien gave a presentation to top publicists in his new studio on the Warner Bros. lot. He and his digital staff explained that a guest's appearance on Conan was no longer just about being on air for 10 minutes; it was a connection to O'Brien's full social network of millions of fans -- a connection that could last for days or even months. "The same goes for their charities and pet projects," says Wooden. "We're ramping up our efforts to be producing digitally exclusive content with either guests on the show or people who can't appear because of scheduling conflicts."

O'Brien's digital team has also reached out to media outlets like the Huffington Post, the Daily Beast, and Entertainment Weekly, and even to bloggers like Perez Hilton to make sure they're always in the know about new clips from the show, which they can publish on their own sites (using Team Coco's player, with Team Coco's ads, recording Team Coco clicks, of course). This gives those sites content that they crave and also acts as a promotional tool, but more important, it distributes Conan content as quickly as possible, which is crucial to discouraging piracy. "There's no need for some kid to become a bedroom programmer if the clips are already out there," says Wooden. "Our job is to give them the tools to share, so they don't have to rip."

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And after reading the Late Night Wars book it is funny to discover it was Ross who was the one who said lets tweet about the tour and not have an ad budget. That was such an incredible morning to discover that, get tickets and see shows sellout across the continent.
 
So Justin Bieber will apparently be on Monday's show. I'm curious to see what's going to happen, considering every time Conan's mentioned him in a monologue, his name has been met with a chorus of booing.
 
So Justin Bieber will apparently be on Monday's show. I'm curious to see what's going to happen, considering every time Conan's mentioned him in a monologue, his name has been met with a chorus of booing.

more boos hopefully
 
I've been meaning to get around to that. I loved the first book.

Its even better than that one. You find out that Conan submitted a package to Letterman to be a writer back in the mid-80s in hopes that it eventually would lead to appearences on the show like Chris Elliot was doing on Dave's show. He almost got the job but they already had a "Harvard grad" on staff and Dave didn't want another one. He then got the job on SNL which allowed him to appear on screen from time to time.

Stephen Colbert was also turned down as a writer for Conan's Late Night show.
 
after watching the episode with Seth MacFarlane I SO wanna see that Mark Whalberg/talking teddy bear movie :awesome:!
 
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after watching the episode with Seth MacFarlane I SO wanna see that Mark Whalberg/talking teddy bear movie :awesome:!

I bet it's not even a movie. Seth and Mark just decided to smoke weed one afternoon and imagined they made it.
 
Bieber will be on the show Monday? That's going to be fun as hell to watch. I bet they boo like they did last year with Heidi and Spencer. What thunderous boos they got :lmao:

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Its even better than that one. You find out that Conan submitted a package to Letterman to be a writer back in the mid-80s in hopes that it eventually would lead to appearences on the show like Chris Elliot was doing on Dave's show. He almost got the job but they already had a "Harvard grad" on staff and Dave didn't want another one. He then got the job on SNL which allowed him to appear on screen from time to time.

Stephen Colbert was also turned down as a writer for Conan's Late Night show.

Hence the reason for the "brawl" back in 2007.

:cwink:
 
God I wanted to punch Seth McFarlane so ****ing badly. Dude is a ****ing *****e that thinks he is God's gift to this planet. All he can do is impressions from his own show and then he thinks he has an amazing voice and decided to sing to promote his record? Holy **** rarely do I hold so much contempt for somebody but dayum what a gigantic *****e.
 
Watson- Please not in the face.......said your wife to me last night

LOL


As for Bieber's appearance, I thought he should have gone up to shake hands with the Valentine's Day couple.
 
This line is the best from the two IBM Watson skits...

"We had a threesome with you wife....talk about a daily double."

Best skits by far on the new show IMO.
 
Watson is the best new character in a long time.
 
Watson- Please not in the face.......said your wife to me last night

LOL


As for Bieber's appearance, I thought he should have gone up to shake hands with the Valentine's Day couple.

A little late, but Jesus...what a robotic little turd. You'd think the most popular kid in the country would have a bit more personality than he showed on Monday.
 

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