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Diesel and the Rock think they are. WWE thinks the Rock is a movie star.
I wish people would stop asking directors about Marvel. All it does is generate clickbait headlines. They’re obviously not going to be a fan of studio’s only producing big budget comic book movies
Quentin Tarantino Says Marvel Killed the Movie Star - Variety
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Yeah, this pretty much covers my view too. There are less old school movie stars now and when that generation goes there really won’t be all that many left. I love a lot of actors but the specific project they’re in now matters more than back in the 80s and 90s where the idea of going to see a certain actor’s films just because of them was more prevalent.To me a "movie star" is an actor who can anchor a film, big or small, and can help ensure that a studio makes their money back when they finance a movie.
If general audiences are willing to see a film just because you're in it, that makes you a "movie star" as far as I'm concerned. This is what differentiates "actors" from "stars". I could appear in a Marvel movie that would most likely make hundreds of millions of dollars, but would that make me a "movie star"? Obviously not...
Of course not every film a "movie star" makes will break box office records, but when you look at their resume you should see far more classics than duds.
When you apply this criteria, the list of contemporary "movie stats" is quite thin. Tom Cruise is obviously one, and I would add Brad Pitt, Will Smith, and Tom Hanks to the list as well (their films are pretty consistent performers).
Once upon a time you could have added people like Eddie Murphy, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Mel Gibson, Julia Roberts, Demi Moore, Meg Ryan, Sandra Bullock, and so on to the list, but many of them seem to have been banished to streaming and DTV lately...
Then you have actors who are kinda movie stars but not really, folks like Aaron Eckhart, Jake Gyllenhaal, and Miles Teller before Maverick. And there's also the likes of Matt Damon, Vin Diesel, and The Rock who are mostly only draws in ensembles and franchise films...
Ah show biz...
This is the best breakdown of it. And I agree fully. Like years ago, a performer on the level of The Rock in terms of public consciousness would be like Will Smith doing $600m grossers every year. Now the IP is the star more than that. Everyone knows The Rock, but that doesn't mean he's gonna be a money makerTo me a "movie star" is an actor who can anchor a film, big or small, and can help ensure that a studio makes their money back when they finance a movie.
If general audiences are willing to see a film just because you're in it, that makes you a "movie star" as far as I'm concerned. This is what differentiates "actors" from "stars". I could appear in a Marvel movie that would most likely make hundreds of millions of dollars, but would that make me a "movie star"? Obviously not...
Of course not every film a "movie star" makes will break box office records, but when you look at their resume you should see far more classics than duds.
When you apply this criteria, the list of contemporary "movie stats" is quite thin. Tom Cruise is obviously one, and I would add Brad Pitt, Will Smith, and Tom Hanks to the list as well (their films are pretty consistent performers).
Once upon a time you could have added people like Eddie Murphy, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Mel Gibson, Julia Roberts, Demi Moore, Meg Ryan, Sandra Bullock, and so on to the list, but many of them seem to have been banished to streaming and DTV lately...
Then you have actors who are kinda movie stars but not really, folks like Aaron Eckhart, Jake Gyllenhaal, and Miles Teller before Maverick. And there's also the likes of Matt Damon, Vin Diesel, and The Rock who are mostly only draws in ensembles and franchise films...
Ah show biz...
Yeah so...I think stuff like this is why people have a hard time taking some takes on this stuff seriously. Because it comes from a place of not knowing certain thingsTo me it sounds like sour grapes on both Tarantino and especially Scorsese’s!! All Scorsese’s seems to make are mob type movies!! That gets boring!! Tarantino has made less and less films!! I also heard he’s going not gonna make 1 more!! So…it’s disneys fault that lots and lots of people like marvel movies over there films??!! GTFOH
Madvillainy said it better already but that's not at all what either of them said. And Tarantino doesn't even hate Marvel. In the same interview, he literally said he grew up reading comics and would have loved watching these movies when he was younger. What Tarantino said about movie stars isn't wrong either.To me it sounds like sour grapes on both Tarantino and especially Scorsese’s!! All Scorsese’s seems to make are mob type movies!! That gets boring!! Tarantino has made less and less films!! I also heard he’s going not gonna make 1 more!! So…it’s disneys fault that lots and lots of people like marvel movies over there films??!! GTFOH
Madvillainy said it better already but that's not at all what either of them said. And Tarantino doesn't even hate Marvel. In the same interview, he literally said he grew up reading comics and would have loved watching these movies when he was younger. What Tarantino said about movie stars isn't wrong either.
He's not though. Please point out in the interview he says this problem was caused by solely Marvel. When he says the "Marve-ization of Hollywood", he's not solely talking about Marvel. In his Howard Stern interview he said, if it's not this, it Star Wars, if its not that it's Harry Potter, if it's not that it's Transformers, etc...He's talking about Hollywood putting most of it's chips in Big IP. And again the dude isn't even hating on the movies, more so Hollywood's response to them. Whether you agree with that or not, well that's a different story.It is wrong, though. He's blaming Marvel movies for a problem that literally predates the MCU.
He's not though. Please point out in the interview he says this problem was caused by solely Marvel. When he says the "Marve-ization of Hollywood", he's not solely talking about Marvel. In his Howard Stern interview he said, if it's not this, it Star Wars, if its not that it's Harry Potter, if it's not that it's Transformers, etc...He's talking about Hollywood putting most of it's chips in Big IP. And again the dude isn't even hating on the movies, more so Hollywood's response to them. Whether you agree with that or not, well that's a different story.
People have a very narrow view of diversity.I don’t get why individual filmmakers are being compared to whole ass studios.
Anyway, the idea of Marvel being some beacon of diversity is laughable to me. The first three phases were white af. They’ve made progress though for sure.
Because you're taking his quote at face value and out of context. You don't even need to listen to a different interview to understand what he meant. You just hear the word marvel and immediately move on the defensive.“But that is one of the — the legacy of the Marvel-ization of Hollywood movies.”
The quote is right there. If you want to say he didn't really mean that or he was creatively edited or whatever based on something you heard in a completely different interview that hasn't even been posted here then, well, maybe somebody should have just said so instead of spending pages tsk-tsking about how people could possibly think he actually meant what he said.
Because you're taking his quote at face value
and out of context.
You don't even need to listen to a different interview to understand what he meant. You just hear the word marvel and immediately move on the defensive.