Primal Slayer
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I wanted to see some more mythological creatures on the island, like Pegasus.
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I'd really like it if they incorporated Dooms Doorway to the Amazons/Island
I wanted to see some more mythological creatures on the island, like Pegasus.
It would've been really great to see this with the Amazons in down time just relaxing, and in classic Greek white dresses and not in warrior garb or warrior mode.
Although they are warriors, I would hope they would also have other pursuits like art, music, philosophy, academia, or even other sports similar to the Olympics (which come from the Greeks in the first place).
Sheltered bowls of land had been formed into arenas and the amphitheater where plays and poetry festivals were held.
Wonder Woman, which just completed its second weekend atop the domestic box office, begins on Themyscira, the breathtaking island that Diana calls home and also one of the most challenging aspects of the film's production design.
"We talked about creating a beautiful island, but not being too close to the Greek islands, which is the obvious inspiration," explains two-time Oscar nominated production designer Aline Bonetto (Amelie, A Very Long Engagement)."We wanted a beautiful, natural environment that the Amazons protect as the environment protects them. It's lush, green."
"I designed troglodyte architecture for its organic shape," she continues. "Using the natural cavities as living spaces, the Amazons prove their ability to live in harmony with their environment. In fact, in Themyscira, I avoid as much as possible straight lines. The curved lines evoke more femininity. They also don't need doors. I tried to show in the design that they live in an open space and are free."
The result was a combination of location photography in Italy, including on the Amalfi coast, with visual effects to further sculpt cliffs and landscape as well as the buildings. "We needed a beach for the main battle scene - a white beach surrounded by cliffs," says Bonetto. "But if you look for a real beach with cliffs, it's not possible to film because of the high tides."
The throne room was designed as an open grotto with a view of the island. "All the seats for the Themyscirian assembly form a circle. I wanted this circle to describe a council room, the place where the Amazons use to meet when important decisions have to be taken in a democratic way.
"It took me a long time to find the right shape of the the stairs to integrate it naturally in this organic space. I wanted it in an art deco spirit but with curved lines. I decided to introduce art deco motives in the Themysciran architecture to contrast with the organic lines of the mineral walls bringing modern, stylized lines with their Greek inspirations. By that, I also wanted to show that, although these women live in a natural environment, they had harnessed certain techniques that allowed them to build very refined architectural elements."
Another point of note, the headboard in Dianaï's bedroom was inspired by Boticelliï's painting The Birth of Venus. "It's shell tells that the Amazons, like her, came from the sea, but also I wanted to design a central metal element that looks like a shield and suggests the fighting that Diana will have to lead."
The film is set in 1918, at the end of WWI. The island also serves as a sharp contrast to the outside world, as Diana later travels to London and then the Western Front, which its grayer, darker color palette.
I read somewhere that
when Antiope died, someone described as her lover/girlfriend/ spouse came running and was crying. Is this the case in the film? Was there someone like this and was it explicit that she had a relationship with her, or could it have just been any Amazon who was sad for her death?
You haven't seen the movie yet?
I have, but I can't remember all the details.
I read somewhere that
when Antiope died, someone described as her lover/girlfriend/ spouse came running and was crying. Is this the case in the film? Was there someone like this and was it explicit that she had a relationship with her, or could it have just been any Amazon who was sad for her death?
The person who comes running is
Menalippe- her sister (played by Lisa Loven Kongsli.) When Antiope dies, Diana runs to her first, then Hippolyta, then Menalippe, who cries out "No!". These are Antiope's family members- her two sisters and her niece, Diana.
Well then people who read into it are wanting to see what they want to see since they don't know the family history. There's clearly no romantic relationship there in fact unless they're doing an Ultimate version like Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
It's not made clear in the movie
that Menalippe is Diana's aunt. Nor is it even clear in the WW novelisation. But it is stated in the Art book that Menalippe is the "glamorous younger sister" and tries to prove herself worthy to her older sister, Antiope. Also (as we saw) she was stated as Diana's aunt in the Entertainment Weekly photograph they released early of the the four of them.
Maybe it was a later decision made, since Antiope dies and they want Menalippe to play a further role in the sequels, and take Antiope's place.
Is she still
Menalippe or was that only in the early stages? Could her character have been changed? Is she even named in the movie?
As far as I remember they don't identify her by name or go into her relation to any other character.
Does anyone remember differently?
Is she still
Menalippe or was that only in the early stages? Could her character have been changed? Is she even named in the movie?
Maybe they made it more ambiguous as they figured they don't need so many sisters and they had the chance to hint at lesbian relationships in the movie.
But I believe the decision to make her a sister came later in the process. That's why it is not mentioned in the script (and thus movie), or the WW novelisation (which is based off the script, not final movie, I believe.)
The write up for Menalippe as the younger sister in the Art book is quite detailed though, with Lindy Hemming talking a lot about designing the costume for her and her character.
We will have to wait to see to be 100% sure though.
Is it possible that they are using the term "sister" not in the biological sense? I mean in the WW comics Diana refers to many Amazons as "sister".
I don't recall her being called Menalippe in the movie, or her relationship as the aunt/sister established. It's more in the promotional material.
She is still Menalippe, I believe. The Art book deals very much with the post-production stages and there is a part dedicated to her, the actress Lisa Loven Kongsli, and her costume design. Plus I think that EW photo of her, Diana, Antiope and Hippolyta was when they had already decided to establish her as the younger sister.
EDIT:
http://ew.com/article/2016/03/24/wonder-woman-first-look-gal-gadot-robin-wright-connie-nielsen/
She will need some help getting there, though. Preparing her for a world of men are three regal women: Diana’s mother, Queen Hippolyta (Gladiator’s Connie Nielsen), and her two military aunts — General Antiope (Robin Wright) and Antiope’s lieutenant, Menalippe (Force Majeure’s Lisa Loven Kongsli). This trio of immortals is responsible for both raising and training Diana — the only child on this estrogen heavy isle — but they don’t always agree. Hippolyta, a revolutionary leader, longs to shelter her beloved daughter from the outside world, but Antiope, the Amazon responsible for Diana’s training, wants to prepare her.