Age of Ultron The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - - - Part 49

[TheVision]

Im waiting for the genre geek critics from the US to review AOU. I can understand/trust them more as they know the MCU really well.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

lol so you're saying non-US reviewers don't understand the MCU?

 

[JOE]

Yeah lol what does that mean?

 

[TheVision]

I dont know if they do. Sometimes it sounds like they dont know what a movie is.

 

[Spitfire]

If its any consolation, while there are some blands too and very, very few negative ones, there are plenty of raving ones in the french press and the two germans i have read are as much or more positive as that one.

Do you have any links to these reviews please. Has the response in France and Germany been mixed in your opinion?

 

[Ms. Marvel]

I haven't seen any negative German reviews.

 

[TheVision]

My fav German review was the one that said AOU is like "Shakespeare, Casablanca with some powder".

 

[yllum]

http://www.followingthenerd.com/mov...-avengers-age-of-ultron/#sthash.md6kVj9W.dpbs

not sure if this has been posted. .another review!

there is no rating though.

 

[TheVision]

^^ Can you guys add the review rating with the links? That way we dont have to read every single one. Thanks vm!

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Id put IM 2 above TDKR in terms of entertaining qualities. Id also say Daredevil is better than the entire Dark Knight Trilogy. Because it really is.

It was an analogy not a direct comparison.

 

[JOE]

What did he rate it? I don't see anything?

 

[TheVision]

I was thinking, would it be smart to open a AOU REVIEWS thread. We can post all the links and the ratings too. like "Review link....4/5" ???

 

[Ms. Marvel]

5/5, the simpsons characters show his rating

 

[BoredGuy]

I dont know if they do. Sometimes it sounds like they dont know what a movie is.

If anything i think foreign reviewers are usually much nicer to our big summer blockbusters
they get so wrapped up in the vfx and the huge setpieces that they don't nitpick the plot holes
whereas American reviewers tend to not give a s*** about VFX and are more negative towards the big studio films
most likely just so the can sound smart and sniff their own farts

 

[InCali]

Id put IM 2 above TDKR in terms of entertaining qualities. Id also say Daredevil is better than the entire Dark Knight Trilogy. Because it really is.

That sort of surprises me. I don't think one can say that "this is better than that", and I really liked the Daredevil episodes (after the first few anyway), but I personally wouldn't put them above (or near really) Nolan's Batman movies (though I noted a LOT of similarities between the two of them). In particular, I thought Batman Begins was awesome and The Dark Knight might have been better (owing to Heath's portrayal of The Joker). I saw them at the Howard Hughes Center IMAX (not sure about BB, but think so) so that could color my opinion. TDK, in particular, had SPECTACULAR cinematography, Ledger's portrayal of the Joker might have been the best villain I've seen for the genre.

Uh oh.......just got hit with a broadcast storm. Gotta go.

 

[TheVision]

I think Nolans films are bigger in scope but in terms of vigilante vs vigilante stories I prefer Daredevil. From the characters to the action sequences. DD is more satisfying to me as a super hero fan.

 

[InCali]

I think Nolans films are bigger in scope but in terms of vigilante vs vigilante stories I prefer Daredevil. From the characters to the action sequences. DD is more satisfying to me as a super hero fan.

I can possibly see that from a perspective of the Matt Murdock story vs. the Bruce Wayne story, but, IMO, from the perspective of the telling of the tale, the filming of the tale, and the overall finished product, I think hands down the Batman movies are (so far) better. The filming part isn't going to change, but the others possibly could.

Hats off, however, to the DD cast; esp Cox & D'Onofrio. I think everyone did a very, very fine job.

 

[Ryu_do_Sen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5eXI8qQGE8

new tv spot. Someone capture that gif of iron man and war machine

 

[Lorus]

I Completely 110% agree. And I think most feel that way deep down. Those, trying to downplay what you said above are only doing so, so they can sleep better at night. They don't like it either, but it's not fun to admit, of course. Fact of the matter is that the word out, thus far, hasn't been all that convincing. To tell the truth, I couldn't see/spot any heartfelt energetic excitement from the AMC-crew either, when they did that 12-second video saying they'd just seen the film and would put up their review next week. No one in the studio seemed too up and energetic about it. Personally, I am far_from always in agreement with Mr. John Campea!! Half of the time I think his likes a very weird, and I can't understand how he thinks about many things. Some stuff doesn't add up for me about him. The fact that he says he LOVES Ultron really doesn't fill me with a whole lot of confidence. No, I wanna hear that stuff from people like Jeremy Jahns & Chris Stuckmann. Those guys I understand and agree with like 90% of the time.

Convincing of what? I honestly think that fans are massively overstating the negativity in these reviews. All the reviews I've read have been positive, 4/5 being the most common score. Most of them have had some criticisms but that's to be expected. None of the reviews have suggested that the criticisms are enough to hugely damage the enjoyment of the film. It seems to me that every positive aspect that reviews highlight are taken as given, while any negative is discussed and contemplated endlessly. It gives the impression that the reviews are overall negative, when quite frankly, the truth is the exact opposite.

 

[TheVision]

I dont know, imo DD is as good or better than those Nolan films. TDK films might be more cinematic and larger in scope but besides that, its very close. DD feels more like a smaller personal story and he doesnt need all those crazy gadgets etc to be cool. DD is an awesome character who fights better than Batman and I like Matts lawyer persona over Bruces billionaire persona. Im also pretty sick of Bales monster voice when I watch those movies.

 

[Best]

Man. Sucks that AoU is trying to be overshadowed near release. Does not help with underwhelming/annoying reactions for this film and amazing trailers from others.

 

[TalismanRing]

If I were Captain America, I would totally fall for some smart nerd; probably before some gorgeous jaw dropper. Don't understand why that doesn't seem to happen in movies. Maybe they don't think there are enough men out there who like smart nerdy types???

Probably because the main character is male so it's geared to that character's POV and fantasy and that of the male audience to which it's geared. The love interest becomes the "prize". The reverse happens a lot in romance novels because those books are geared to a primarily female audience where the man is usually the prize (in terms of looks, intelligence, wealth etc).

As for Steve Rogers, he loved Peggy Carter so it's hard to see how his taste could be bettered, she's magnificent.

 

[TheVision]

The trolling in this forum is hilarious. Theyre like fleas popping up all over to try to cause negativity every chance they get. I guess ignoring them is the best thing to do. If you respond its like a snowball effect.

 

[InCali]

I dont know, imo DD is as good or better than those Nolan films. TDK films might be more cinematic and larger in scope but besides that, its very close. DD feels more like a smaller personal story and he doesnt need all those crazy gadgets etc to be cool. DD is an awesome character who fights better than Batman and I like Matts lawyer persona over Bruces billionaire persona. Im also pretty sick of Bales monster voice when I watch those movies.

I can see what you're saying. DD "is" a smaller (and I don't mean small with any negative connotations), personal story and was very well done and that certainly has its appeal. I can also see liking the hardworking, honest attorney (and despite popular opinion, such a beast exists in real life) persona over the billionaire playboy persona (although that wasn't who BM really was).

However, DD fighting better than BM is, again IMO, HIGHLY debatable. True, he didn't have all of BM's widgets (or armor), but he was (almost) constantly getting the living crap kicked out of him and by people that I think BM would have handled with relative ease. The case where he just barely escaped from Fisk stands out in my mind.

Finally, I can understand people not liking (or getting tired of) Bale's "monster" voice (Kedrell, are you out there? t, but one of the things that struck me what how much DD's voice often had that same "monster" tone to it. It was what actually got me to thinking about how similar the stories were. Like DD was an MCU BM (or vice versa, but BM did come first).

Anyway, interesting perspective and (mostly ) stuff I can see....

EDIT: Shoot, sorry.....I was thinking this was the DD thread.

 

[Best]

The trolling in this forum is hilarious. Theyre like fleas popping up all over to try to cause negativity every chance they get. I guess ignoring them is the best thing to do. If you respond its like a snowball effect.

If you're referring to my comment, I'm not trolling. Just a tad bummed at some of the reactions (easily bummed, so not too big a deal) and Star Wars, BvS and FF really out there atm when AoU is nearing. I can't focus, man.