James Bond: 007 - Spectre - - - Part 12

[Roose Bolton]

Not necessarily. If Sony is desperate enough they could try and offer another ridiculously lopsided deal like they did with the previous four films, which was something like them fronting 60% of the budget and receiving 25% of the gross.

 

[Web-Head]

If WB just owned the distribution rights, we wouldn't have to worry about them meddling would we? Because that seems to be the thing they like to do with the DCEU...

 

[Roose Bolton]

Nope. The way these things work is that EON/MGM more or less control the production and get a level of autonomy.

 

[Web-Head]

Nope. The way these things work is that EON/MGM more or less control the production and get a level of autonomy.

Thanks...That's what I thought.

 

[TheVileOne]

A lot of people said Pixar were going to leave Disney and even go to Warner Bros. 10 years ago. It didn't happen. I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying these predictions don't always come to pass either.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Forget Craig!

Throw 50m to Fassy and be done with it.

 

[TheVileOne]

If EON/MGM want to keep Craig and are going to try and campaign hard for him to come back, well you can argue that he starred in the two biggest box office Bond movies ever. Spectre did over $880 million worldwide, and Skyfall did over a billion.

Just IMHO, but he's my favorite Bond actor ever, and I'm sure many fans would agree.

However, if his heart isn't it and he'd just be doing it for the money, I'd rather he call it a day and move on.

 

[elgaz]

Fassbender would be brilliant as Bond. And I know some people complain that his name gets thrown in the mix for everything, but that's a sign of how good an actor he is. I watched X-Men: First Class again last week, and his ability to slip between friendly/deadly as Magneto (when he's hunting down those who hurt him) is uncanny, with this simmering rage constantly boiling away underneath his relatively calm exterior. It would be perfect for Bond. Then a few days later I watched him play a kooky possibly slightly autistic singer in Frank, and he was equally convincing in that. He gives 110% whether it's a small indie film or a big budget number like X-Men or Prometheus.

I like Craig as Bond, but there's absolutely no question that he doesn't have the same kind of range and versatility as Fassbender. He's had the role for 10 yrs; why they'd throw 150mil at him for more films when he's quite nonchalant about the whole thing, instead of throwing 50mil to Fassbender is beyond me.

 

[Lord]

Michael Fassbender and Idris Elba would be the best choices for Bond in my opinion. They have range and would fit the role well.

Daniel Craig was one of the best actors portraying the role, and probably the one with the best range overall, but he seems so tired of the role that i would prefer to not see him return in such a state of mind.

I do wonder about continuity. Should the next actor get a rebooted film series? Considering how good a reboot Casino Royale was and how Spectre planted threads for future stories, i think it would be a miss to reboot the franchise yet again.

 

[Roose Bolton]

If Daniel Craig doesn't return, then I would assume they'll shelve Blofeld and Spectre for a while and reintroduce them at a later date whilst keeping it more like the Brosnan era where they don't reference the previous films too much.

 

[terry78]

I agree, i find it hard to believe that a top secret spy would be invested in so many people and have the, i guess mind set to make things personal. I have always felt that Bond has to be a loner, as his job would be compromised - hence the one night stands, addictions and ease at killing - but what is good is seeing glimpses of 'friendship' and 'bonding' wight he people he works with - Moneypenny is the closest to a wife, Q to family and other oo's as siblings. We see a hint of the true Bond then we see this hard ass on missions, we then get to see how he handles situations.
I personally think they need a new actor, call it a soft reboot, continuation whatever you need to make it through the cinema door, once there is a new actor, the old is long forgotten. Sure, the past can be used as a flip between vague history/continuity like they seemed to do pre craig and then show a very different origins from then on - but to me, i want to see a whole new universe and cast.

That's why i loved Casino Royale, it was a fantastic film - rather than a fantastic Bond film.

That is the one thing about his coworkers, for all his moody angst loner tendencies, they all still know how he is and take jabs at him and treat him like a normal. Moneypenny and Q both crack on him like a big brother.

 

[Brian Braddock]

If Daniel Craig doesn't return, then I would assume they'll shelve Blofeld and Spectre for a while and reintroduce them at a later date whilst keeping it more like the Brosnan era where they don't reference the previous films too much.

If Blofeld was involved they would most likely have to recast also as Waltz has previously sais that he'd only return if Craig does.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Did Waltz himself say that or was it just something reported to the tabloids?

Either way, I guess it doesn't matter. Unless they get Craig back to complete the Spectre plotline, they'll probably just put it aside when the next Bond gets cast and then gently bring it back with a new Blofeld.

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't care if Waltz goes. I didn't like him as Blofeld anyway.

 

[TheVileOne]

Elba is much better as Luther. He's not James Bond.

 

[antsman41]

If not Craig again... give me a no-name, to grow into Bond. I don't want to try hard to make myself see someone who is famous as Bond like Affleck as Bruce.

 

[TheVileOne]

I'd rather it be someone lesser known as well.

I'd be fine with a new Blofeld too. I feel like we were fed a rotten carrot with Oberhauser.

 

[Dark Raven]

I feel that Blofeld could've been much more complex and could even have been bald. He wouldn't have had to be like Dr Evil in Austin Powers. In Smallville, Lex Luthor was bald. Was he ever a campy villain? That was one of the best live action portrayals of Luthor by Michael Rosenbaum. They could've made Blofeld a mixture of Rosenbaum and John Glover. He would've been really intimidating, cunning and dangerous.

I feel that Fassbender would be too known now, almost like how when people wanted Hugh Jackman for Bond before. Same with someone like Tom Hiddleston and maybe even Henry Cavill now.

 

[TheVileOne]

I didn't find Blofeld campy in the Connery films. But those were made the 1960s.

I think in Diamonds Are Forever he was more of a two-dimensional villain.

 

[E.NormusJohnson]

Craig was good for this particular Bond... in light of everything going on in the world I wouldn't mind just a tad bit more campiness thrown back in. Maybe not to the extent of Roger's run... but the humor in Craig's films just never registered for me.

 

[TheVileOne]

Thing is, the humor isn't all that important to me because my favorite Bond novels weren't all that humorous. They were fairly serious affairs, and Bond wasn't a dry-witted one-liner wise cracker.

I like Dalton and Craig because IMHO they are still the closest interpretations to the character Fleming wrote. Craig movies actually dealt with the idea of what it means for Bond to be an assassin and a blunt instrument. He was stripped down of all the superhero nonsense. No more paragliding over tidal waves.

After he killed those warlords, and he's on that adrenaline rush, you see him go back to the hotel room and he's coming down from that high and how it affects him. It's intense.

 

[Dark Raven]

I didn't find Blofeld campy in the Connery films. But those were made the 1960s.

I think in Diamonds Are Forever he was more of a two-dimensional villain.

Yeah, I didn't find either Donald Pleasance or Telly Savalas campy. Charles Gray was a bit more though with his cross dressing too. But that was like Connery in a Roger Moore film.

Craig was good for this particular Bond... in light of everything going on in the world I wouldn't mind just a tad bit more campiness thrown back in. Maybe not to the extent of Roger's run... but the humor in Craig's films just never registered for me.

I wouldn't mind it too. In fact, I would actually like a film in the style of The Spy Who Loved Me or For Your Eyes Only. TSWLM had more of a seriousness about it after TMWTGG, even though it still had elements like Jaws in it. But Jaws was certainly more iconic than someone like Mr Hinx.

I never really liked the humour in the Craig films either.

 

[E.NormusJohnson]

Thing is, the humor isn't all that important to me because my favorite Bond novels weren't all that humorous. They were fairly serious affairs, and Bond wasn't a dry-witted one-liner wise cracker.

The lack of humor in Craig's run has become a bit exhausting for me. Bond has been "Batman" for too long and lacked some "Iron Man" qualities to him. The sheer ridiculousness of the Bond character requires at least a breather or two for the audience so we know that we're in the realm of the surreal.

That's just my personal perspective... my father who's still around thinks Dalton was the best bond and Craig a close second. He hates Connery/Lazenby/Moore's runs (In Lazenby's case jog/jaunt).

I'm with Raven though... TSWLM is still one of my favorite Bond "films". Had the best of everything IMO.

 

[Fallen Angel]

If WB just owned the distribution rights, we wouldn't have to worry about them meddling would we? Because that seems to be the thing they like to do with the DCEU...

WB is the most directly friendly of the big studios and has been for decades. Just because news on a couple of DCEU movies said they meddled doesn't mean every WB movie is like that. They make and produce numerous movies throughout the year.

 

[Warhammer]

After the height of insanity with Die Another Day followed by 9 years of Daniel Craig ending with the lukewarm reception of Spectre, I have grown quite accustomed to mostly humorless Bond.