James Bond: 007 - Spectre - - - Part 12

[E.NormusJohnson]

After the height of insanity with Die Another Day followed by 9 years of Daniel Craig ending with the lukewarm reception of Spectre, I have grown quite accustomed to mostly humorless Bond.

Humor was the least of DAD's issues...

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

WB is the most directly friendly of the big studios and has been for decades. Just because news on a couple of DCEU movies said they meddled doesn't mean every WB movie is like that. They make and produce numerous movies throughout the year.

It doesn't matter. Eon has creative control anyways.

 

[Fallen Angel]

It doesn't matter. Eon has creative control anyways.

Yeah I know that but just posting on Barry's and a few others that seem to mention this like it's become some kind of fact that WB meddle in their movies.

 

[Dark Raven]

The lack of humor in Craig's run has become a bit exhausting for me. Bond has been "Batman" for too long and lacked some "Iron Man" qualities to him. The sheer ridiculousness of the Bond character requires at least a breather or two for the audience so we know that we're in the realm of the surreal.

That's just my personal perspective... my father who's still around thinks Dalton was the best bond and Craig a close second. He hates Connery/Lazenby/Moore's runs (In Lazenby's case jog/jaunt).

I'm with Raven though... TSWLM is still one of my favorite Bond "films". Had the best of everything IMO.

Yeah, it is exhausting and doesn't make me want to watch it more than once. I agree it's too much like Batman now. Skyfall even seemed to copy that whole style. Well Batman and Bourne.

I haven't truly enjoyed a Bond film for the past 20 or so years.

 

[Dark Raven]

Humor was the least of DAD's issues...

Agree about this too. There were so many other things wrong. One shouldn't just throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

[E.NormusJohnson]

I haven't truly enjoyed a Bond film for the past 20 or so years.

Brosnan... I still don't know what to make of him. Goldeneye was a amazing first film for a new Bond... equals Roger with LALD... and Dalton with LTK. Yet his run was a disaster after the fact.

 

[Roose Bolton]

GoldenEye is easily a Top 5 Bond film IMO.

 

[E.NormusJohnson]

DAF - Shirley... she still can't be topped.

 

[Urich Leeds]

Brosnan... I still don't know what to make of him. Goldeneye was a amazing first film for a new Bond... equals Roger with LALD... and Dalton with LTK. Yet his run was a disaster after the fact.

Pierce is much like Craig IMO.

One greatest of all time Bond movie, one good one, then 2 very bad ones.

 

[The Joker]

Pierce is much like Craig IMO.

One greatest of all time Bond movie, one good one, then 2 very bad ones.

I assume the two bad ones for you are QOS and Spectre?

 

[Roose Bolton]

For me Brosnan's run was basically one great film, two mediocre films, and then one awful film.

 

[spidey-dude]

Pierce is much like Craig IMO.

One greatest of all time Bond movie, one good one, then 2 very bad ones.

disagree he had 2 great, 1 good and 1 alright imo

even in his worst ones there is a lot of good stuff

quantum I love, underrated film that is surprisingly subtle and has great character development, it's a direct sequel though and doesnt work alone

 

[Marvolo]

QOS is pretty good as a fourth act to CR. As its own film after a 2 year wait it was disappointing. Spectre was even more disappointing because I had to wait 3 years for that and it was just boring.

 

[Slushy]

I like Dalton and Craig because IMHO they are still the closest interpretations to the character Fleming wrote. Craig movies actually dealt with the idea of what it means for Bond to be an assassin and a blunt instrument. He was stripped down of all the superhero nonsense. No more paragliding over tidal waves.

After he killed those warlords, and he's on that adrenaline rush, you see him go back to the hotel room and he's coming down from that high and how it affects him. It's intense.

That's why I'm not interested in Bond after Craig quits. I have a feeling they're going to go back to superhero Bond with the next actor.

 

[Marvolo]

Bond wasn't a superhero in Dr. No, From Russia With Love, Thunderball, and Goldfinger.

 

[Roose Bolton]

For the most part they stuck true to the novels in the early Connery/Lazenby films, though we were screwed out of getting the proper Blofeld trilogy. I won't even go into whatever the hell Diamonds Are Forever was supposed to be..

 

[chamber-music]

Elba is much better as Luther. He's not James Bond.

He wants to do a Luther movie.

 

[E.NormusJohnson]

I won't even go into whatever the hell Diamonds Are Forever was supposed to be..

When Lazenby bowed out (career go poof!) they backed up a truck loaded with cash in Connery's driveway. Though you can tell even he didn't take the movie seriously.

Interestingly enough I always enjoyed Never Say Never Again... even though that's in the same league as DAF.

 

[TX85]

I actually liked superhero/super spy James Bond and miss Pierce Brosnan. I mean I've enjoyed Daniel Craig in the role and his bond films but just saying I also dig the old style as well.

 

[Dark Raven]

I actually liked superhero/super spy James Bond and miss Pierce Brosnan. I mean I've enjoyed Daniel Craig in the role and his bond films but just saying I also dig the old style as well.

I don't miss Brosnan. If there's one thing about his films that symbolises the whole feel of them, it's the BMW cars. That's almost synonymous with how all his films feel: efficient, rather boring and by numbers, and like something that came off an assembly line machine.

It's not that I prefer the Craig films either, but I don't miss Brosnan.

But I would like some elements of the Roger Moore and Sean Connery films to return with more of the super spy elements and slightly more fantastical plots and villains.

 

[Roose Bolton]

When Lazenby bowed out (career go poof!) they backed up a truck loaded with cash in Connery's driveway. Though you can tell even he didn't take the movie seriously.

Interestingly enough I always enjoyed Never Say Never Again... even though that's in the same league as DAF.

Even disregarding Connery, the whole film is basically an Austin Powers movie. The novel itself is a little wacky at times...but esh...

 

[Web-Head]

WB is the most directly friendly of the big studios and has been for decades. Just because news on a couple of DCEU movies said they meddled doesn't mean every WB movie is like that. They make and produce numerous movies throughout the year.

Hence why I said DCEU.

 

[Urich Leeds]

I assume the two bad ones for you are QOS and Spectre?

No. Skyfall. And I know I'm minority when I say Skyfall was bad, or that I didn't enjoy it. Even more so when I say I think Spectre was the best of the Craig era, right up there with Casino Royale, to which I feel its the sequel QOS should've been.

 

[Mysteryman]

He wants to do a Luther movie.

I would pay to see that.

 

[Gort Baringa]

I haven't seen much of Idris Elba's work, but I would simply disqualifiy him playing Fleming's creation because of his race.

I vaguely remember him in Prometheus . . .

Reading about Luther, I am intrigued that this might be worth catching up with on DVD. Maybe his efforts can equal something near what Robbie Coltrane brought when he was Fitz in Cracker . . .

Definitely on my 'to do' list!