Part VI (Spoiler Thread)

No she wasn't, that's right but she was impaled by a lightsaber like Qui Gon was and he died.
Anyway, it didn't bother me, I don't mind this kind of inconsistancies or I would not enjoy many series :)

All the scenes with Vader and Obi Wan were great even the dialogues. That is enought for me.

Qui-Gon was impaled right in his stomach. Reva impaled on her side or shoulder, it seemed.
 
Err…don’t know what to think.
Wtf was Reva doing? Why does she want to kill Luke? Vader doesn’t even know about his children.
Why doesn’t she have injuries?
Why was she so fast on Tatooine (Kenobi too)
Why doesn’t Kenobi kill Anakin (again). He knew he should’ve killed him the first time. Not killing him on Mustafar caused all the suffering and despair. And sparing him a second time causes more suffering and despair for the whole universe.
From a story stand point I understand you asking why Kenobi doesn't kill Vader. But we all know he has to live. He has to make it to Return of the Jedi. So it doesn't matter what they do with his backstory. The only answer is he still has to make to ROTJ.
 
From a story stand point I understand you asking why Kenobi doesn't kill Vader. But we all know he has to live. He has to make it to Return of the Jedi. So it doesn't matter what they do with his backstory. The only answer is he still has to make to ROTJ.
He doesn't kill Vader because he has compassion for Vader. Jedi don't kill.
 
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Also I suppose they were going with the "revenge does wonders for the will to live" thing that Inquisitor Corgan mentioned in Part V
Dark Side alignment seems to be about using the spiritual aspects of life to serve and sustain the physical aspects, while Light Side alignment has a core philosophy resembling the Serenity Prayer. I think it’s reasonable to suppose that using a whole lot of power to sustain life (such as by healing a mortal injury) could tip a person’s thinking toward the other impulses of the physical side of existence, such as rage and desire for revenge. This could explain Reva going after the Lars family when that plan didn’t have any practical benefit for her.
 
Still can't get over how awesome this episode turned out to be. Obi-Wan meeting Luke was GOLD. I cheered. Just wish it'd been inside a packed IMAX theater.

Chow and McGregor nailed it.
 
I'm a bit divided about this show. I loved some stuff but also got somewhat baffled at some of the writing/direction.

Even though I went to the cinema back in -77 as a kid to watch this super hyped big budget sci-fi space opera thing everyone talked about (hence why I still reject the subtitle A New Hope, since it's a total after construction to a classic event in cinematic history. That movie is titled Star Wars only goddammit :argh: :grrr:), and watched every SW flick afterwards - I've never been able to remember/keeping up with what's supposed to be canon and what problems that might affect later productions yada yada.

I've never watched the animated shows though. That's one of reasons why it's always interesting to read comments by people here who really know their SW mythos (or think they do according to others, ehem..).

Being old af and still getting new SW content since my childhood in the 70s of course means tons of nostalgia/fan service to which I'm not afraid to confess I'm often being a big sucker. But of course all these products sometimes turn up uneven in quality. Which for me personally I felt here (same with Boba Fett).

Anyhows, Darth Vader was just lots of fun and a total badass here, pretty much how menacing he felt back in 1977 (probably my first classic movie villain, maybe except for Shere Khan in Jungle Book). Hayden did a great job, and I'm glad people seem to appreciate his performance here.

Ewan was great as usual, but personally it got a bit tiresome that Obi-Wan constantly is the struggling underdog until the final episode. But that's just me, and of course that's how his story here was written (or maybe rewritten lol?).

Reva just felt as an annoying bad acted character in first episodes, but later on rather felt more like a shaky written character (and Moses doing her best with what she got). I also have to confess I found her story and motivations a bit.. confusing? She could've been a fun badass and interesting character, but failed me to really connect to her.

Not every scene with little Leia was good directing/writing but most of it made me just wanna adopt her. Mostly for the obvious ridiculous amount of adorableness and great acting for the kid actress age, but also so I can borrow Lola sometimes lol.

Some flaws here, but since I'm not aware/don't remember everything about SW mythos I mostly whine about some plot/story/direction etc stuff. Also, in my age getting serious about stuff like Star Wars has been of minor importance for some decades now. It's just entertainment for me. Good, lesser good or bad. As long as I find some charm and having a good time I'm often pretty content and can overlook stuff. Even though I'll react if some favourite characters doesn't feel like "classic Star Wars" (whatever that really might supposed to be).

I enjoyed most of this show, and this episode was a good finale. Like I said, in the end all of this is just various levels of entertainment. Of course IMOAO* that is.

*In My Old Ass Opinion
 
This is factually incorrect. And yet, you keep saying it. Why?





"Jabba, this is your last chance. Join us, or die."



How much Star Wars have you actually watched?


Buddy boy, you don't understand the Jedi. You act like you do but you don't.

The Jedi are not behaving like Jedi in the PT. They're acting like soldiers. They're executing people. This is why The Force wants them gone. This is why The Force allows for Palpatine to win. The Jedi had to go. Anakin detected this. It's part of why he had such contempt for them.

Killing is NOT The Jedi way.
 
Buddy boy, you don't understand the Jedi. You act like you do but you don't.

The Jedi are not behaving like Jedi in the PT. They're acting like soldiers. They're executing people. This is why The Force wants them gone. This is why The Force allows for Palpatine to win. The Jedi had to go. Anakin detected this. It's part of why he had such contempt for them.

Killing is NOT The Jedi way.
What people are the Jedi executing in the prequels? The only attempted executions were Mace of Sidious (he was right) and those that fell to the dark side and were eventually stopped by the light side of the Force.

Vader doesn't become a Jedi again until he those Sheev into the pit. They even play the force theme:



Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Anakin all kill. All have gained "one with the Force" status, making them "the Jedi". So how exactly is that not, the "Jedi way"?
 
I think it's like saying "Vulcans don't lie", which is a guiding value of the philosophy rather than a description of what happens when ideals run up against real life. There's at least the sense that killing is not the preferred action.
Jedi use the force for defense, never for attack. But they kill. They kill a lot. Because they are warriors, who protect people with violence.
 
I think it's like saying "Vulcans don't lie", which is a guiding value of the philosophy rather than a description of what happens when ideals run up against real life. There's at least the sense that killing is not the preferred action.
AOTC Windu warns Palpatine that the Jedi are keepers of the peace and not soldiers.

ROTS Windu tries to execute Palpatine despite Anakin reminding him that it is against the Jedi code to execute someone.

The Force ironically corrected this problem via Anakin.
 
AOTC Windu warns Palpatine that the Jedi are keepers of the peace and not soldiers.

ROTS Windu tries to execute Palpatine despite Anakin reminding him that it is against the Jedi code to execute someone.

The Force ironically corrected this problem via Anakin.
Using this argument, the Force was cool with the millions upon millions of death brought on by Sheev before and after that moment, but not with Windu killing a Sith Lord. Sure.

You keep taking agency from whomever you want to, to make your point. Anakin kills Windu when he falls to the dark side. That's not the Force correcting anything. That's Anakin deciding his selfish need for power to save Padme from the natural course of death is what matters most. The irony is that Anakin causes Padme's death with these actions.
 
Jedi use the force for defense, never for attack. But they kill. They kill a lot. Because they are warriors, who protect people with violence.
Better. Closer. But still off.

A true Jedi doesn't kill to protect people. They kill when forced to kill.

Obi-Wan was forced to kill Maul to save the Queen of Naboo.

Obi-Wan allowed Darth Vader to walk away alive.

Both of those are the actions of a true Jedi.

Obi-Wan going to Mustafar to assassinate Anakin Skywalker was NOT the Jedi way. It's why Obi-Wan allows him to live in this episode.
 
Better. Closer. But still off.

A true Jedi doesn't 't kill to protect people. They kill when forced to kill.

Obi-Wan was forced to kill Maul to save the Queen of Naboo.

Obi-Wan allowed Darth Vader to walk away alive.

Both of those are the actions of a true Jedi.

Obi-Wan going to Mustafar to assassinate Anakin Skywalker was NOT the Jedi way. It's why Obi-Wan allows him to live in this episode.
Jesus Christ.

First you admit they kill, after saying they don't, repeatedly. Then when you say, "forced to kill", and then give an example of "protecting" others. Which you know is hilarious, because then you mention leaving Vader to walk away alive. Hmmmmm, what happened after that subpar duel...



But then of course, Obi-Wan decides Luke has to kill Vader.



According to you every single Jedi isn't a "true Jedi". Because every member of the order has killed as far as we've seen.
 
Jesus Christ.

First you admit they kill, after saying they don't, repeatedly. Then when you say, "forced to kill", and then give an example of "protecting" others. Which you know is hilarious, because then you mention leaving Vader to walk away alive. Hmmmmm, what happened after that subpar duel...



But then of course, Obi-Wan decides Luke has to kill Vader.



According to you every single Jedi isn't a "true Jedi". Because every member of the order has killed as far as we've seen.

Obi-Wan doesn't want Luke to kill Vader. George Lucas himself said so.

The End
 
Obi-Wan doesn't want Luke to kill Vader. George Lucas himself said so.

The End
Explain this dialogue:

Luke: There's still good in him.

Obi-Wan: He's more machine now then man. Twisted and evil.

Luke: I can't do it, Ben.

Obi-Wan: You cannot escape your destiny. You must face Darth Vader again.

Luke: I can't kill my own father.

Obi-Wan: Then the Emperor has already won. You were our only hope.
 
Jedi will kill if it's a last resort or for protection of others. They don't kill for vengeance, or anything relating to hate.

It's like comic Batman... he won't kill you, but he doesn't have to save you (if you put yourself into a situation that inflicts pain or harms others).
 
Jedi will kill if it's a last resort or for protection of others. They don't kill for vengeance, or anything relating to hate.

It's like comic Batman... he won't kill you, but he doesn't have to save you (if you put yourself into a situation that inflicts pain or harms others).
Is that a comic Batman thing? I thought that was some Batman Begins contrivance.

One of the biggest indicments of what Obi-Wan does here, is he could always take Vader captive. He doesn't. He leaves him to go around and continue to commit atrocity after atrocity. He fails to protect people here.
 

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