Black Lightning Black Lightning General Discussion

I've not watched Batwoman as I can't take to Ruby Rose, and I have zero interest in a Painkiller show - similarly to how much interest I had in the canaries spinoff.

For me, the Arrowverse is now Flash and Legends. Stargirl is a solid show too, but that hasn't crossed over yet. I can't help but think the Superman show will be too much soap drama and not enough comic book for my liking.

Might give wonder girl a chance, but I'm in no rush, especially as I watch Titans and we've already got one.
 
I've not watched Batwoman as I can't take to Ruby Rose, and I have zero interest in a Painkiller show - similarly to how much interest I had in the canaries spinoff.

For me, the Arrowverse is now Flash and Legends. Stargirl is a solid show too, but that hasn't crossed over yet. I can't help but think the Superman show will be too much soap drama and not enough comic book for my liking.

Might give wonder girl a chance, but I'm in no rush, especially as I watch Titans and we've already got one.

She really is a terrible actor, she doesn’t command the screen at all. The show will be better without her.
 
The new Batwoman is a better actress than Ruby. Then again, if its the same writers and showrunner's the question is whether it will be any better even with a new lead.
 
The new Batwoman is a better actress than Ruby. Then again, if its the same writers and showrunner's the question is whether it will be any better even with a new lead.

IMO... Black Lightning was/is the best written of the CW/DC shows. And Batwoman was the second best. (Though, Stargirl was pretty good too.)
 
To expand on my earlier comment, as I didn't have time to go into depth then...

That's extreme lol. The Arrowverse still has as many shows in production as it had last year and more than what it had 3 years ago. They also have 2 potential shows in development (wonder girl and painkiller).
They'll have Superman and Lois, Stargirl, Batwoman (for at least one more season), Painkiller, and Flash , Wondergirl ,with LOT keeping its off and on seasonal status.

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So its not as if its all clear sailing from here. They still have something to prove, and the audience will decide if the shows take off.

But no, the Arrowverse isn't going away anytime soon.
It is down to the viewers, yeah, and unless I'm mistaken Black Lightening didn't launch with the greatest of viewers, especially be Arrow and Flash standards. I'd simply put that down to him being a lesser known character, at least outside of the comic book world.

Most people probably originally tuned into Arrow because it was an easy 45mins of action, and you didn't have to think too hard. We were then introduced to Flash, and in turn, Supergirl, who's viewers probably came in because of who the characters were. Legends had a success because it mostly used characters that had already been established.

Painkiller isn't really established, at least as someone who is capable, and can you really have a series about that character? A miniseries, sure, but a whole reoccurring series with multiple seasons? I don't know. The same goes for Wonder Girl, just because she's not a huge name, and we haven't even met her.

If you're suddenly throwing the likes of Kitana, Arsenal, Thunder & lightning into that show, then it's less about Painkiller and more about the team. I know there was some hope of seeing the Outriders(?) on Black Lightning, but there seems little point in cancelling one show just to bring the same characters into another. At this point, I think Painkiller will be another Canaries; we'll get a pilot, and then nothing.

IMO... Black Lightning was/is the best written of the CW/DC shows. And Batwoman was the second best. (Though, Stargirl was pretty good too.)
Stargirl gets my vote as being one of the best written shows at the moment, and I think a lot of that is down to the shows fever episodes; when you've got a show that has 12/13 episodes, the writers can focus on what matters. When you've got a show with 21/22 episodes, the writers have to stretch that out and fill it in with episodes that're either pointless, or ones that nobody really cares for.

I'm pretty sure every episode of Stargirl served a purpose, and had a point to it. The same can pretty much be said for Black Lightning too - because again, more localised, focused, and with fewer episodes. I suspect this is also how Legends is surviving. Granted they don't always have to most coherent or viable episodes, but they're relying on a reduced number of them, and for the moment, it's paying off.
 
Been enjoying the show so much, I just got this on Digital:

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I have to admit I am surprised just reading the first issue of the collected edition how faithful the show is to this. Fantastic stuff.
 
IMO... Black Lightning was/is the best written of the CW/DC shows. And Batwoman was the second best. (Though, Stargirl was pretty good too.)
Star girl season one is more of dc universe show first.It was made by dc universe not cw.
The episodes came later on cw after it came on the dc universe.
Season 2 will be just a cw dc show.
The best written cw/dc shows that i have seen so far is black lightning,izombie and stargirl if you include season 1.
If you do not include season 1 then it will be black lightning and izombie.
Anyway those will be the top 2 or 3 and i will not say here which one is the best so far since i need to catch up with black lightning and izombie.
I just recently found out that another dc cw show will be made and that is naomi.
 
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By the way Smallville became a dc cw show from season 6 to season 10.
The CW (seasons 6–10) .
 
I’m 2 episodes away from finishing S3 and I have to say this show is so consistently good, the writing, FX and acting is all on point. I think of all the DC CW shows (maybe bar Stargirl) they handle multiple characters the best and the show feels like it’s got real stakes to it whereas some shows feels like they’re just going through the motions.
 
Considering he's still out there, and how much of a thorn he was in the side of the Pierce family, and the fact that he's Wayne Brady, we should absolutely see Gravedigger again. Hopefully Brady's calls pay off.
 
I finally watched season 3. Generally good. There were a few instances where the production/execution was a tad clumsy. But for the most part, the quality of the writing continues to be the series’ strong suit — easily the best of the CW/DC offerings.
 
It definitely has a final season feel, more so when you've got lines like "Freeland will be lost without Black Lightning." Very much anticipating this show and will be sad to see it go. Even though it's now officially part of the Arrowverse, I appreciate that this show, more than the other ones, I feel, has its own identity and feel despite being part of the same universe.
 
It definitely has a final season feel, more so when you've got lines like "Freeland will be lost without Black Lightning." Very much anticipating this show and will be sad to see it go. Even though it's now officially part of the Arrowverse, I appreciate that this show, more than the other ones, I feel, has its own identity and feel despite being part of the same universe.
Legends has its own identity too, although it admittedly isn't a very good one by comparison. :confused:
 
Legends has its own identity too, although it admittedly isn't a very good one by comparison. :confused:

No, that's true. Not saying that the own shows don't have their own identities. They very much do, but if I had to pick a show that didn't feel like it took place in the Arrowverse even though it does, based on its tone and feel, I'd go with Black Lightning.
 
No, that's true. Not saying that the own shows don't have their own identities. They very much do, but if I had to pick a show that didn't feel like it took place in the Arrowverse even though it does, based on its tone and feel, I'd go with Black Lightning.
Yeah, I get what you mean, and I agree with it.

I know it's irrelevant now, but I really do wish they hadn't merged all of these earths. Black Lightening and Supergirl - two separate worlds not only to the Earth-1, but also each other were forced to combine with Earth-1 only to ultimately be cancelled before their time.

Might as well throw Batwoman in there too, cause as great as it's been for the show moving beyond Ruby Rose, her Kate Kane was a fundamental asset to the CW Justice League. Such the league has since lost three of its core members.
 
Yeah, I get what you mean, and I agree with it.

I know it's irrelevant now, but I really do wish they hadn't merged all of these earths. Black Lightening and Supergirl - two separate worlds not only to the Earth-1, but also each other were forced to combine with Earth-1 only to ultimately be cancelled before their time.

Might as well throw Batwoman in there too, cause as great as it's been for the show moving beyond Ruby Rose, her Kate Kane was a fundamental asset to the CW Justice League. Such the league has since lost three of its core members.

In the end merging them didn't make a difference. No one is crossing over, aliens won't be on BL, Metas won't be on SG, etc..

Im still bent over BL being canceled for a younger, cheaper guy just to take over.
 
In the end merging them didn't make a difference. No one is crossing over, aliens won't be on BL, Metas won't be on SG, etc..

Im still bent over BL being canceled for a younger, cheaper guy just to take over.
You're on about the Painkiller series? Honestly I think that'll meet the same fate as the (now cancelled) Canaries spinoff show.
 
You're on about the Painkiller series? Honestly I think that'll meet the same fate as the (now cancelled) Canaries spinoff show.

Yeah I reckon so too, I like Painkiller but I don’t think he can carry his own series
 
Yeah I reckon so too, I like Painkiller but I don’t think he can carry his own series
He can't. He'd be no replacement for Black Lightning in any case.

As far as I'm concerned, the Painkiller series is a desperate attempt at keeping a redundant character viable after essentially killing off (not literally) the character he spawned from.

It would be like doing a series based on Cisco, Brainy, Thea or Mia. Pointless, and frankly, insulting.

When the DCU has such a vast array of characters, why there's a need to try and build a show from characters that are either lesser, or completely fabricated I'll never know...
 
He can't. He'd be no replacement for Black Lightning in any case.

As far as I'm concerned, the Painkiller series is a desperate attempt at keeping a redundant character viable after essentially killing off (not literally) the character he spawned from.

It would be like doing a series based on Cisco, Brainy, Thea or Mia. Pointless, and frankly, insulting.

When the DCU has such a vast array of characters, why there's a need to try and build a show from characters that are either lesser, or completely fabricated I'll never know...

I do think they’re phasing out the old shows. I expect Legends to go after the next season. I think they want to change the perception of these shows and with recent rumours of the TV shows and movies been more connected. Although BL is easily the best looking & has the best FX of the existing Arrowverse show so I’m surprised this one was so quickly put on the chopping block.
 
You're on about the Painkiller series? Honestly I think that'll meet the same fate as the (now cancelled) Canaries spinoff show.

It may but it could also make it to series since I doubt they will try to pawn it off on HBO Max to pay for.
 
Although BL is easily the best looking & has the best FX of the existing Arrowverse show so I’m surprised this one was so quickly put on the chopping block.
It's not so surprising as it's been the lowest-rated of the DC shows for a while, despite being the best/most consistent in quality.
 

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