Alex Garland's Civil War

[Kane52630]

Do we know what's the budget for this? It looks by far the most expensive A24 film I've seen.

I tried looking it up but the only thing that came up was this and it says it has a $100 million budget.

Trailer for A24's movie about the coming U.S. civil war

Civil war and the collapse of the American republic: when kids discuss it on social media, it's cause for panic and political writhing about whether the First Amendment needs new…

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[The Shape]

I read that it has a $75mil budget somewhere today.

 

[Filmfreak]

Both seem plausible amounts. First and foremost I hope it's good and then I hope it makes its money back. If this is another Beau is Afraid in the box office I'll start to get worried about boundaries the studio may give to some filmmakers in the future.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

That had to be the most inflammatory trailer I've seen since The Dictator's teaser trailer back in 2011.

Alex Garland.....WHAT are you trying to do with this movie? Are you trying to upset people? Cause NOBODY wants to be thinking of an alt-right uprising. Ever. And why are you being so mysterious to where you don't want to give out a plot synopsis? This isn't Cloverfield.

Well, I spend a lot of time thinking about the potential of an alt right uprising because I am a politically engaged human being alive and cognizant in 2023. As is Alex Garland. This is what artists do, this is what art is for, especially science fiction - a mirror and a warning.

Stories don’t have to be comfortable, they can be angry and incendiary and make you worried and scared for the future. I can’t think of many more important topics to write about in the modern world.

Not everything is escapism.

 

[Primal Slayer]

That had to be the most inflammatory trailer I've seen since The Dictator's teaser trailer back in 2011.

Alex Garland.....WHAT are you trying to do with this movie? Are you trying to upset people? Cause NOBODY wants to be thinking of an alt-right uprising. Ever. And why are you being so mysterious to where you don't want to give out a plot synopsis? This isn't Cloverfield.

Huh? Handmaids Tale is huge and we're on the verge so people won't mind this

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

The motivation hasn't been spelled out yet for why some of the largest states - CA, TX...and FL apparently separately - have seceded.

This seems like Garland's 28 Days Later mixed with the Olympus has Fallen series. Hopefully better than the latter.

I don't disagree that this movie is provocative, doubly so given when it's being released in 2024. It's hard releasing a movie or TV show anymore where modern day conservatives won't latch onto and worship the terroristic white characters, murderers like the Joker, or the Nazis or the Confederacy in historical dramas.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

I dont get why California and Texas would ever ally with each other based on their politics, unless something went horribly wrong in Cali.

But this looks fantastic. With the alt right being presented as villains and as warning to our continued silence and tolerance of them, this looks to be the right movie at the right time.

Art is supposed to be uncomfortable and this succeeds at that, now I hope it's just good.

Hope Disney follows suit and has The Punisher kill a ton of cops and racists lmao

 

[Sithborg]

Except GTA doesn't AT ALL take itself seriously (I've beaten GTAV twice and am a frequenter on GTA Online), and The Purge as a concept is so ridiculous of a premise that it'd never actually happen in real life (murdering people and causing property damage does not benefit anyone, let alone a nation's economy, regardless of the rest of the details in the sequels contradicting this).

Making a movie about a group of journalists heading to DC as two states that are known real-life red-states succeed and lead a violent coup against the rest of America during at time where, in real life, the Republicans are trying to get rid of people's freedoms and turn crazy and/or fundamentalist people into the next Nazi party? Garland needs to read the damn room. And the realistic tone the trailer gives doesn't help.

1. Any ideas from this movie are likely gleaned from sources that already exist, so it isn't exactly going to be an inspiration to anyone.

2. Lets see how this plays out. There was enough there that I think the movie is a bit more than just warning against right wing extremism. Its easy to make imagine it is what you think it is, because of how many on the right do call on civil war. But, that wasn't shown in the trailer.

 

[Sithborg]

Yeah, the map that I can get a quick glance at shows the US broken into 4. Lets wait and see before we make judgements.

Hell, one line is "they shoot journalists on site in the capital". Lets see what Garland is making.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

"The three-term president assures that the uprising will be dealt with swiftly"

it was muffled in the trailer over the radio.

How was this guy even allowed to run for three terms?

Did he pull a Trump and just refuse to leave after the second term or what. (controversial)

If the previous president died and he started by inheriting the office as Vice President and then went on to win 2 more terms maybe that's how. (not controversial)

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

 

[Hurm...]

Well, I spend a lot of time thinking about the potential of an alt right uprising because I am a politically engaged human being alive and cognizant in 2023. As is Alex Garland. This is what artists do, this is what art is for, especially science fiction - a mirror and a warning.

Stories don’t have to be comfortable, they can be angry and incendiary and make you worried and scared for the future. I can’t think of many more important topics to write about in the modern world.

Not everything is escapism.

Well said. This film looks exceptional from the trailer. Crying about the trailer is why Hollywood is so stunted creatively. God forbid you make a "controversial" film.

 

[Kane52630]

"The three-term president assures that the uprising will be dealt with swiftly"

it was muffled in the trailer over the radio.

How was this guy even allowed to run for three terms?

 

[Sawyer]

****, I didn’t know Plemons was in this.

 

[Link]

Based on the trailer, I'm thinking more along the lines of Men, than Ex Machina or Annihilation, but I'm excited to watch it.

 

[Gee]

****, I didn’t know Plemons was in this.

His line is scary.

 

[Filmfreak]

Based on the trailer, I'm thinking more along the lines of Men, than Ex Machina or Annihilation, but I'm excited to watch it.

In what sense?

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Civil War Trailer Previews Ex Machina Director’s New Political Thriller

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“A race to the White House in a near-future America balanced on the razor’s edge,” the official synopsis reads.

“I know when I put something out there if it’s going to **** a bunch of people off,” Garland told The Daily Telegraph when Men was coming out in May 2022. “The film [Civil War] I’m making now is also going to wind some people up.”

 

[emielaen]

Ain't a damn thing wrong with making audiences uncomfortable.

 

[Arnold Rimmer]

Well said. This film looks exceptional from the trailer. Crying about the trailer is why Hollywood is so stunted creatively. God forbid you make a "controversial" film.

Admittedly, at least this isn't The Dictator which was just Sasha Baron Cohen trying to piss everyone off.

 

[Link]

In what sense?

In the sense that Garland clearly isn't aiming to please everyone, in the sense that there's something intriguingly messy about the trailer. Aesthetically and thematically he's moving further away from the early films he directed, this looks more like something he'd written a decade or two ago for another filmmaker. And Garland himself calls it a companion piece to Men. Whether that translates to a good movie or not remains to be seen, but I'm always there on opening night for anything he does.

 

[BatLobster]

Looks extremely chilling. I'll wait for reviews, cause I probably won't be in a rush to subject myself to something this anxiety-inducing and provocative unless I feel confident that he pulled it off and it's a really great movie. But it's a bold movie to make, so credit to A24 for spending this much money on an uncompromising director and an extremely timely and uncomfortable premise.

 

[Filmfreak]

In the sense that Garland clearly isn't aiming to please everyone, in the sense that there's something intriguingly messy about the trailer. Aesthetically and thematically he's moving further away from the early films he directed, this looks more like something he'd written a decade or two ago for another filmmaker. And Garland himself calls it a companion piece to Men. Whether that translates to a good movie or not remains to be seen, but I'm always there on opening night for anything he does.

Garland is probably saying that because of a similar divisiveness the film seems to provoke and the social issues it tries to touch. I get that but otherwise it looks nothing like Men in terms of genre, aesthetic, style, narrative structure etc. That film was very surreal and symbolic, this looks much more straightforward.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

As far as cautionary tales I'd prefer a president who purges the government and replaces it with extremist then slowly establishes a dictatorship in America where there are no civil liberties and family members disappear.

Why? Because a civil war movie is right wing p*rn at this point. They fantasize about it like war is a cosplay convention or a game of paintball.

People need to consider what an American dictatorship would look like, especially conservatives and swing/independent voters.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

As far as cautionary tales I'd prefer a president who purges the government and replaces it with extremist then slowly establishes a dictatorship in America where there are no civil liberties and family members disappear.

Why? Because a civil war movie is right wing p*rn at this point. They fantasize about it like war is a cosplay convention or a game of paintball.

People need to consider what an American dictatorship would look like, especially conservatives and swing/independent voters.

I mean, isn't that what the Handmaid's Tale is?

It won't be Right Wing Porn if the Conservatives are the villains getting their asses handed to them by the "liberal" characters.

 

[Luigi]