EA to develop Star Wars games

I wonder when we'll get a trailer for next year's Battlefront
 
The Respawn Entertainment game looks promising.
 
VOD interview of Geoff K with jade Raymond (both formerly EPN.TV Host Alums).


there another interview with her fomrboss vic but only half of it was show inthe rundow this week and you all want the full interview that will be up when EPN.TV makes it available . Til then


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she just talked about the detail what what going withthe franchises over all and how cool it is to work with Amy Henning. and she was trying not to spill details on Amy's project . but there is content from the new films in the works for the games .
 
Sort of off topic but related too since this man has done some of the video games here's a pocast inter view with David W. collins.

Hopefully vic finish's editing that interview he did with his former co work worker Jade.Raymond, so we can see what she had to say on the current starwars games she creating especially the one with Amy Henning .



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Vic’s Basement with Star Wars Master David W. Collins!

Vic catches up with David W. Collins, who's worked on countless Star Wars projects, including games and TV shows,
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ok some news/details with Amy henning 's Visceral Games was mentioned from what's now yesterday by Epn.tv

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EP Daily Rundown for July 18, 2016

Today in the Rundown, we have the latest on Pokémon Go, find out when the Xbox One S arrives, have some disappointing news about Game of Thones, find out who won EVO 2016, head to the final frontier with early details on the next Star Trek film, and finally.and finally, recap all the big announcements from Star Wars Celebration 2016!

You can find a lot of things in Canada: hockey, Timbits, free health care… and now Pokémon. Yep, it’s finally here. Pokémon Go is now officially available to download and play in Canada, so you don’t need to fake it with an American account. For those of you who live under a rock, Pokémon Go was released earlier this month in the US and other territories, using GPS and augmented reality to allow players to find and catch Pokémon in the real world. Around thirty million people are already playing it, making it an unprecedented global phenomenon. There have also been a few problems like overloaded servers, and more seriously, people not paying attention and walking into things while playing. Just this weekend the game cause a massive frenzy in New York’s Central Park, with thousands of players abandoning their cars and swarming the park when a rare Pokémon appeared. Obviously Canadian players are going to be more polite.

And if you want to go back inside for some stationary gaming, the Xbox One is getting a bit more attractive next month. The slimmer and lighter Xbox One S will begin hitting stores on August 2. That’s when the 2TB model will be available in the US and other ‘select regions’, although Microsoft hasn’t said what specific countries will get it first. As for the 1TB and 500GB models, you’ll have to wait a little longer for those; Microsoft says they’ll begin shipping at a later date that has yet to be revealed. The Xbox One S is 40% smaller, with a built-in power supply and USB ports on the front – you know, things that it should have had all along. It’s also more energy efficient, and can play video, but not games, in 4K. Games will look a little better though, because the Xbox One S features High Dynamic Range, or HDR, which gives a higher contrast ratio between light and dark. The controller has also been improved, now with a textured grip and Bluetooth support, making it easier to use with a PC. If you’re excited about getting a new Xbox One but you’re on a budget, you might want to wait until next year. Microsoft is working on an even newer model codenamed Project Scorpio, which will be much more powerful and is rumoured to work with the Oculus Rift. We’ll have more details on that as they develop.
The Seven Kingdoms are looking a little smaller these days. HBO has announced that the seventh season of Game of Thrones will consist of just 7 episodes, down from the traditional 10. That’s not the only disappointing news for fans. As rumoured, the show will also premiere in Summer 2017, a few months later than its usual spring launch. This is because shooting is taking place a little later in order to have gloomier fall weather on location. Fans are anxiously awaiting the new episodes, more so than usual, thanks to the shocking events that unfolded in the last season’s finale. Enjoy it while you can. Game of Thrones is expected to end its run and bring everything to a bloody conclusion with Season Eight in 2018.
And thankfully there’s never any blood, real blood anyway, in the world of esports. EVO, the annual esports event focusing on fighting games, took place over the weekend. The best teams in the world competed against each other in popular titles like Killer Instinct, Tekken 7, and Street Fighter V. This was the first time that the new Street Fighter game has been featured at EVO, and it got most of the attention. Korean player Infiltration emerged as the champion, following a third place finish last year in Ultra Street Fighter 4. American player Long Island Joe got a lot of attention as well, winning the cheers of American fans and beating expectations to come in fifth. Esports is obviously getting more and more popular in the gaming world, so much that ESPN has even starting covering it like traditional sports.
The USS Enterprise is continuing its new mission and adding Thor’s hammer to its arsenal. With the new Star Trek Beyond set to beam down this weekend, Paramount Pictures has greenlit a fourth movie in their new Trek film series. It will once again be produced by JJ Abrams and his Bad Robot Productions, although it’s unclear if Beyond director Justin Lin will return to helm, or if the studio will find a new director. It’s also unclear who will helm the Enterprise itself; Chekov actor Anton Yelchin tragically passed away last month. All of the surviving cast will be back, and Paramount has also revealed that the fourth film will see the return of Thor star Chris Hemsworth as Captain Kirk’s father. He appeared briefly at the start of the 2009 Trek film, before he was Thor, and since his character died, there will have to be some kind of sci-fi explanation for this return. Expect the new Trek movie to beam down in the next two or three years.
And now that we’ve spent some time in the final frontier, it’s time to head over to the galaxy far, far away. The annual Star Wars Celebration took place in London over the weekend, where loads of new details about the franchise were announced. First up, Disney finally confirmed rumours that Hail Caesar actor Alden Ehrenreich will play the young Han Solo in the new spin-off film focusing on the character. They didn’t reveal any plot details, but we do know that it will take place before the original Star Wars movie, which means we can expect a more hard-edged version of the scruffy smuggler. The new film is being helmed by The Lego Movie directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller, and will arrive in 2018.

Another iconic Star Wars character is making a comeback. The upcoming third season of the animated series Star Wars Rebels will introduce the fan-favorite Grand Admiral Thrawn. The blue-skinned, red-eyed villain has been a staple of countless expanded universe novels and comics, but he never appeared in any of the films or TV shows, until now. His appearance on Rebels will mean that he’s now part of the official Star Wars canon for the first time, much to the delight of fans. Thrawn is also getting a new novel, written by his creator Timothy Zahn, which will be part of the new Star Wars canon as well. That hits shelves next spring, and the new season of Rebels premieres this fall.

There were also plenty of big announcements shaking up the Star Wars video game world.
The new virtual reality experience called Star Wars: Trials on Tatooine is now available to play on the HTC Vive headset. It takes place after the events of Return of the Jedi, thrusting players into the role of a young Jedi padawan being trained by Luke Skywalker for his new Jedi Order. Anyone who’s seen The Force Awakens knows that that doesn’t work on too well, but the game is still a lot of fun. It’s basically a Lightsaber simulator, where you deflect laser blasts from Stormtrooper and help R2-D2 fix the Millennium Falcon. It’s very short, less than five minutes, but thankfully, it’s free for anyone who owns the HTC Vive. There’s no word yet if it will come to other VR headsets like the Oculus Rift.

This isn’t the only Star Wars virtual reality experience on the way. Disney is working on a VR adventure that will let players take the role of none other than Darth Vader. They’re calling it a story-based VR project, which sounds more like an interactive movie than a game, and it’s being written by The Dark Knight co-writer David S. Goyer, so don’t be surprised if it gets dark. That’s about all we know for now about the Vader Reality project. Don’t expect to see it for another year or two_Over to more traditional games,

the first footage of the Death Star expansion for Star Wars Battlefront was unveiled, showing off the aerial combat that will take place above the dreaded space station. You’ll also be able to go inside the Death Star for ground-based combat, with two new playable characters: the lizard-like bounty hunter Bossk, and the walking-carpet we’ve all been waiting for, Chewbacca. The Death Star DLC is on target to arrive this September. The fourth and final expansion for the game is coming in early 2017, and will be based around the new spin-off movie Rogue One. Players will get to take the role of the new heroes from the film, and more plans will be unveiled in the coming months. Rogue One content is also coming to the mobile game Star Wars Commander, so keep your eyes peeled for that.

Finally, new details about the upcoming Star Wars game from Uncharted director Amy Hennig have come in. We still don’t know the title, but we do know that the game will tell a new story within the Star Wars galaxy, and Hennig says that, like Uncharted, there will be a cast of close-knit ensemble characters, kind of like a family. The best Star Wars stories have all done the same thing, although it’s unclear if this means we’ll get to play as more than one character. The new Star Wars game, whatever it’s called, is set to arrive in 2018, and we can’t wait.




Also stating on way Henning said

Star Wars Battlefront Rogue One: Scarif out this Holiday, Amy Hennig's game coming 2018


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Finally, Amy Hennig, the director behind the acclaimed action-adventure Uncharted series, spoke more about the new game she is working on teased via a short clip in an EA Star Wars showreel at E3.
The game, which has no name yet, will be out in 2018 and sounds like it will feature multiple protagonists. Uncharted was specifically mentioned as a source of inspiration for gameplay and stills showed a fair amount of free-running and climbing by two characters.
Hennig also spoke of her method in recreating the feeling of popular action-adventure films through the Uncharted games like Indiana Jones by deconstructing and reconstructing the plots into component parts which can translate to gameplay.
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“The difference between Star Wars and Indiana Jones is that there aren’t side characters, there are co-protagonists, and so the same thing is true of our game,” Hennig said.
“They only escape the Death Star because everyone does their part in parallel. The challenge for us then is how do we enable that in gameplay, and that’s why we deconstruct and reconstruct.”
Hennig said the team would now “go dark” while working on the project, but plenty of details are hidden in existing shots and footage of the game that fans have not found yet, so keep digging.
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Can't wait to finally see her/Viceral's game fully revealed with gameplay trailers and reading articles with tons of info!
 
Sorry you all nothing new with amy since the last time , but thee is new with kim swift below it seems.

Hmmm I'm not sure about this, I can see her doing new ip but it being star wars.?!? I'd say wait for more info



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Electronic Arts will showcase the latest on its Star Wars projects at Star Wars Celebration Orlando from April 13 to 16 at the Orange County Convention Center, StarWars.com announced.


Here’s what will be present at the event:

  • EA, creators of Star Wars Battlefront, Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes, and Star Wars: The Old Republic, will be in attendance to showcase the latest on their Star Wars projects.



  • Play the latest Star Wars mobile games, including Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes, Star Wars: Pinball, and Star Wars: Force Collection, right on the show floor.



  • Experience a special Star Wars: The Old Republic Cantina Community event (off-site), featuring a talk with the developers and opportunity to meet the game’s designers.


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Electronic Arts has several new Star Wars projects in development, including a new Star Wars Battlefront due out in 2017, a new Star Wars action adventure game from Visceral Games due out in 2018, and a new Star Wars game from Respawn Entertainment due out beyond that.



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sorry this yet again has nothing to do with Amy heening game for now unlike the article up top. missed this over the weekend





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"The next official Celebration is slated for a location and date soon-to-be announced, in 2019," read a statement from Inside the Magic.
The Star Wars Celebration event began in 1999 to celebrate the launch of Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. When it first started, the events were not on a set schedule but would happen with the release of the following movies. But today, new installments come out every year and this has bolstered the event into a mostly yearly event. But they've announced that there is not an event in 2018.
This year's celebration takes place April 13-16 in Orlando, Florida. It's also likely that this is when Lucasfilm will release the first trailer for The Last Jedi. Plenty of staff, including Writer-Director Rian Johnson and Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy, will appear on panels to talk about Star Wars and the new film specifically.
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NEWSRumor: First trailer for Visceral's Star Wars game to debut at Star Wars Celebration Today at 4:07 pm

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We'll also learn more about Battlefront 2's campaign.


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[FONT=&quot]Ever since Disney acquired the rights to Star Wars, they've been carefully looking at how to approach the brand in all entertainment mediums. For the last few years, it's been hard to tell with how the company will approach the video game aspect of Star Wars. They've given control to EA who have assigned multiple projects to a number of studios like DICE, Respawn, and Visceral but only one game has released so far.


Last year, we were given a brief glimpse at what all the other studios are doing with Star Wars but it still remained mostly unclear with what they are making. Perhaps the most interesting project in development right now is Visceral's. It has former Uncharted writer Amy Hennig penning the script and the team behind one of the best survival horror franchises is making the rest of it all come together. No one really knows what it's about, but it looks as if it might blend Uncharted with Star Wars based off concept art and a VERY short glimpse at the game running in-engine.


According to some new rumors, it sounds like we may get our first trailer and details for the game at the upcoming Star Wars Celebration event which is also rumored to hold the first trailer for Star Wars: The Last Jedi. The rumors come from Jordan Maison from Cinelinx who also leaked that there would be Rogue One DLC for Star Wars: Battlefront.
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Maison also mentioned that the primary focus of the gaming panel will be on Battlefront 2's campaign. The 2015 Star Wars: Battlefront was well received by many due to it's authentic Star Wars feel, but many fans felt that it was missing a fully-fleshed out campaign mode. EA has promised a campaign mode will be included in the sequel due out this year, but has yet to mention anything else about it.
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From what I've heard, bulk of #SWCO gaming presentation will be about #StarWarsBattlefront 2 & proving it's a different/better game.​
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Another source backed up Maison's claims about Battlefront 2 and stated that they'll be saving the multiplayer for E3.
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We're never getting another Knights of the Old Republic on consoles, are we? :csad:
 
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If that's not what Bioware is working on now, I would say probably not.
 
For those wondering here' what Amy Hennig had to say .


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It’s been a while since fans were able to hear about Visceral Games’ in-development Star Wars title. The game is especially awaited, given how the team includes Amy Hennig and Todd Stashwick.
While some were hoping to see even a few updates of the game at E3 2017, there wasn’t a hint of it in sight. Hennig and Stashwick took to Twitter to explain their decision on why this was the case.
Responding over Twitter, Hennig explained that DICE and Motive were supposed to enjoy the limelight in the meantime, to promote and showcase what’s already been done in Star Wars: Battlefront 2:

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The reason is understandable, given the fanfare that has already come with many a detail reveal for Star Wars: Battlefront 2. However, it gives a rather tight window for the developers, since the Star Wars game is expected to debut sometime around the release window that he Han Solo movie is expected to arrive.
It is reassuring that the developers are confident about the game, even though there’s hardly any other detail revealed for it. For starters, the most that we know is that it will be set between the events in Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope. At the same time, Hennig will pretty much apply the skills that she put in creating the dashing hero Nathan Drake and putting someone like him in the Star Wars universe.
Hopefully, we’ll get more details about Visceral Games’ Star Wars title in the near future.
Read: Star Wars Battlefront 2 will have an evil droid.
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We're never getting another Knights of the Old Republic on consoles, are we? :csad:
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I was sure a remake would pop up somewhen. I would rather Obsidian be involved in KOTOR over Bioware though. That's not happening.
 
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they're busy with their own project's sky forge being one of them . I doubt they want to be going to being used and then dumped on again when project fails like fallout vegas etc. and with how bowareis now that' like what might happen if they were linked EA will make them the scape goat.
 
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[FONT=&quot]It looks like some details on the upcoming Star Wars game from Visceral Games has leaked!
At the beginning of 2016, we were warned to temper our hype for Visceral Games' new Star Wars game, which was announced in 2015, as the game was still years away. Details on the upcoming game, helmed by Amy Hennig - the former creative director for the Uncharted series at Naughty Dog, have been light (we got a peek at the game once), but Visceral did spare some time to deny the game being an open-world RPG.
With all the silence around the game, there's a lot left unknown. It appears as though something on the game's plot has leaked - at least according to Making Star Wars (which has been down since the rumor began circling). Though the source has not been verified, it is being reported that actor/writer Todd Stashwick, who was supposed to be in Uncharted 4 prior to Hennig's departure from Naughty Dog, will be in the game.
"Todd Stashwick (12 Monkeys, The Riches, the Originals, Supernatural, Gotham and writer of Visceral’s Star Wars game) is playing “Dodger.” Dodger isn’t his real name. He was forced into the criminal underworld when he “dodged” the draft into Imperial service, leaving home on very bad terms. When he decided to run he became wanted by the Empire and basically went into hiding in the seedy underbelly of the galaxy. He learned to be charming and how to talk fast. However, his life got a lot worse after the destruction of his home world of Alderaan and he found himself on a wanted “survivors list” held by the Empire (a story idea which popped up in Marvel’s Leia comic series).
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"When the Rebels blew up the Death Star, the Empire focused its retribution towards the outer rim where the “terrorists” that blew up the battle station originated from. This is bad for Dodger but also gives him opportunities to make money. The Empire’s new involvement with the outer rim shakes up the criminal underworld in interesting and threatening ways to Dodger and his compatriots. Friends begin to turn on one another and criminals become heroes willing to aid the rebels for the first time.
"Dodger is thrust into the story when he has the opportunity to work for Jabba the Hutt (more on that in a future update). The job will give Dodger the money he needs to buy himself off the list of Alderaanian survivors via corrupt Imperials. In the process Dodger finds something terrifying about what the Empire wants to do with the weapon that hits close to home and forces him to confront his past and the destruction of his home-world head on.
"Dodger is completely cable of taking care of himself and his foes. He’s armed with a light whip/grapple stick and a blaster. His signature move is to activate the light whip/grapple stick and ensnare his enemies with his left hand and then blast them into oblivion with the the pistol in his right hand. There are a lot of variants on these weapons which might mean they just conceptualized a lot of these things or there will be DLC and variants to obtain in game. Either way, he uses his “magic lasso” and his pistol to stop his enemies cold."
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^^hmmm........can't say I'm interested in those story details, if true.
 
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Robie Mattox is a woman in her early thirties that is Dodger’s partner in crime. She’s a gunslinger with an attitude and is one of the only people Dodger can trust, both personally and in a fight. We cannot understate her importance to the series being laid out right now as she’s our other main hero. Supposedly the plan is to have her take center stage in a sequel down the road.
Like most heroes in the Star Wars universe, Robie’s parents were killed when she was young. She grew up an orphan on 1313 after being taken in by the Wandering Star crime family. Robie has some weird hangups. She doesn’t like droids. Artificial life creeps her out. She would be right at home with Wuher at the cantina on Tatooine. This will apparently put her at odds with Doc, Dodger’s field medic droid.
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I'll probably give it a chance, just
because it's a 'Star Wars' title. Still,
it doesn't sound particularly interesting.
 
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