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Old Man Logan would be the MCU version just very old. Why would it be Jackman. In the comics, it was an Old Man version of 616 Logan in an alternative universe.I'd go with a new actor for the MCU Wolverine but there's no reason why Jackman couldn't show up as a time-displaced Old Man Logan, it's happened in the comics.
Dazzler, Sunfire, or Thunderbird would also be great additions to the original team. Forge and Cecelia Reyes would be excellent support characters and just make a lot of sense to include.I see what you're getting at. I do like the idea of getting some shine on characters that don't usually get it. Maybe as quasi-supporting characters of the original team. I think using characters that haven't gotten any shine could be cool. I personally would want to see Dazzler, Sunfire, and Thunderbird, but it might be interesting to use characters that naturally lend themselves to support roles, like Sage, Forge and Cecelia Reyes.
I think they'd probably need a reasoning stronger than 'we need more bodies' to recruit a whole new team. It'd be more interesting if there was some material difference between the type of missions they were doing in the backstory and the type of missions the movie franchise covers.
Shadow King! Yes! He's great, and would be a really REALLY good first movie villain. He can be inserted into anything and be a catalyst because he's a body-jumper. As much as I love FX's Legion, and Aubrey Plaza in general, that character isn't really as Shadow King-y as I'd like.
And I totally get what you mean about Sauron, and I used to feel the same way, I just don't care anymore for some reason, so long as he's used to support another villain.
I definitely get Vulcan being OP. He is Omega level though. For me, he didn't seem too over the top. Black Bolt was able to beat him one on one.
But yeah, that brings up the issue of the Inhumans. Honestly, I really just think it's best to pretend the series never happened, but I worry it's forever tainted the brand... It's going to suck so bad if we never get the Inhumans in the wide MCU because of Perlmutter and Scott Buck.
Dazzler, Sunfire, or Thunderbird would also be great additions to the original team. Forge and Cecelia Reyes would be excellent support characters and just make a lot of sense to include.
I actually don't think it's the easiest thing to come up with a story that makes sense for the new team. Even the comics didn't do it in a graceful way. The appeal is they come from all over the world, but it's also a challenge to bring them together. The event that brings them together would be global in nature, but how do you show each new character getting recruited without it dragging (recruiting the Horsemen in Apocalypse took too long and was rather silly).
But I just think it would be really cool to highlight some lesser known characters that fans would get a kick out of seeing, and then upturn that world be introducing these big A-lister fan favourites with big personalities that the general audience knows.
I'd also want the movies to follow the development of the school, in a better way than the Fox movies do because those movies jumped decades.
X1: Xavier, with help from Forge, Cecilia, and Moira, teaches a small group of youngish students how to control their powers and deal with mutant/human crises. The team adds 3 or 4 major A-listers by the time the movie is over.
X2: The students from the first movie are now college age, and become sort of like grad students - they still work with the professor, but help teach a new generation (the New Mutants equivalent). Some characters from the first one stay and others leave (for some spin-off related property?)
X3: The school becomes as large as we see in the Fox films and the comics now, which brings its own set of problems. I'd love them to adapt Riot at Xavier's. Xavier lowers his profile and prepares the X-men to take over the school (we can then see Xavier maybe working for the UN or in some important role).
The school is so fundamental, and should be as much of a character as anyone else. It should grow and change over time.
Eventually, if this formula becomes too repetitive, Marvel could mix things up with Utopia, Schism, etc. But only after the schools foundations have been built.
Angel seems like the well-off white kid who would hide his minority status from the world, or at least his family would. I can see there being Angel spottings like the Mothman though.
Yes I would much prefer it be the other way round. Put everything into making great X-Men films, and then great spinoffs can be a bonus rather than the main event.The question about spin-offs in the MCU is an interesting one. I love Logan, but it has been frustrating seeing talent and creativity given to spinoffs while Apocalypse treaded water (we'll see what Dark Phoenix does). I'd hate to see the main X-men movies be average while energy and attention is given to yet another Wolverine movie.
X-Force makes more sense in the Fox world, where that movie can portray hyper-violence and moral ambiguity. Would a black-ops murder team fly in the MCU?
Other teams might not have enough of an identity to justify their own films. X-Factor can feel like a smaller scale version of the main team. Exiles can explore the multi-verse, leading to opportunities for cameos by recast characters no longer in the MCU?
Solos are tough because X-characters don't do as well when they are in isolation from other X-men. Wolverine and Cable have been the most successful. I'd be a fine with a Wolverine solo if they minimize his presence in the team movies and include Laura and Daken. Cable is a meh idea.
I'd love it if they took a risk and made a Dazzler musical, Jem and the Holograms meet the X-men style.
I want Storm's presence felt in a big way, would a solo be the way to go or should they focus on her in the main team films and put her Black Panther's world?
If it has a cool trailer, a Bajillion dollars.
Actually, shipping him off to a boarding school is EXACTLY the way his NIMBY* parents might handle his... Condition.
*Not In My Back Yard.
If Xavier makes them go public, not really. I feel they would pull him out of there the second that happens.
I definitely want Cyclops to have a cowl/helmet this time around