Solo General News/Discussion Thread-Solo: A Star Wars Story. - Part 1

[Zant]

This mentality where "oh maybe they will come to our side at some point" from Lucasfilm seems rather reckless.

And an acting coach for Ehnrecehjc? Damn.

So they picked the wrong directors and now it seems like they picked the wrong actor too? He is lucky they did not get rid of him too. Seems like Han Solo was always meant to be played by one actor.

 

[Sithborg]

The Hollywood Reporter story does seem to reinforce the idea that their improvisation was leading a wide divergent movie than what was pitched. One of the early stories mentioned that new scenes were having to be created due to the improves. And with so few takes, yeah, that would reinforce the need for such new scenes. Which, when you are doing a smaller production like Jump Street, isn't such a big deal, but with the sheer amount needed to make a scene for Star Wars, especially with practical effects, yeah, that is a problem.

 

[Eddie Dean]

The first Iron Man was largely improvised.

 

[writer0327]

The way I see it, Lucasfilm wants to expand the universe, but are also afraid to let it breathe.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

There's a good possibility that perhaps Lord and Miller just sh**t the bed. Hard to say at this point.

Honestly they should have just let Kasdan direct this from the beginning. He was the one who wanted this movie and kept pushing for it (even though for most people it always sounded like a bad idea).

I read somewhere that he couldn't. It was some crazy director's guild ********, or maybe it was just saying he couldn't take over. Idk...it wasn't very clear at all.

 

[Sithborg]

The first Iron Man was largely improvised.

Also a much smaller production.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Yeah, apparently Kasden is very strict about what's on the paper is what should be on film. I suppose the man responsible for shaping so much of the character should have some say so, but they had to know Lord and Miller were very improvisational directors. Lucasfilm needs to hire to match what they want, not just who is hot at that moment.

 

[writer0327]

Maybe its a good thing this is Kasdan's last foray. And I'm a Kasdan fan, but SW will need different voices to continue.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The first Iron Man was largely improvised.

The first Iron Man didn't really have a script though. Hence the improvisation.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The way I see it, Lucasfilm wants to expand the universe, but are also afraid to let it breathe.

Serious question. What if what they were making was bad? Should they have just put it out?

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Maybe its a good thing this is Kasdan's last foray. And I'm a Kasdan fan, but SW will need different voices to continue.

The only thing that really pisses me off is that Lucasfilm swore up and down the spin offs were all going to have a different look and feel. That was their chance to let the individual projects breathe a bit, but now they seem to essentially be wanting more of the same.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The only thing that really pisses me off is that Lucasfilm swore up and down the spin offs were all going to have a different look and feel. That was their chance to let the individual projects breathe a bit, but now they seem to essentially be wanting more of the same.

What is more of the same? The same as, "The Force Awakens"? Because Rogue One and the TFA were not similar. Same as the OT? Each of the OT movies feels rather different. It is the same for the prequels, whether one enjoys them or not.

So what is Han Solo going to be like exactly?

 

[guitarsingerguy]

What is more of the same? The same as, "The Force Awakens"? Because Rogue One and the TFA were not similar. Same as the OT? Each of the OT movies feels rather different. It is the same for the prequels, whether one enjoys them or not.

So what is Han Solo going to be like exactly?

Han Solo is going to have a similar feel to the main Star Wars universe. The prequels, the OT, and TFA have a similar enough feel. They have the same over arching action/adventure feeling. Now, I'm not saying that's bad at all. They just made it seem like these stand alone movies were going to be significantly different. We were gonna get an actual comedy. Maybe they were going to explore 1313 and get super dark and possibly have a heist style film.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Han Solo is going to have a similar feel to the main Star Wars universe. The prequels, the OT, and TFA have a similar enough feel. They have the same over arching action/adventure feeling. Now, I'm not saying that's bad at all. They just made it seem like these stand alone movies were going to be significantly different. We were gonna get an actual comedy. Maybe they were going to explore 1313 and get super dark and possibly have a heist style film.

Oh no they don't. They don't at all. You think, "Attack of the Clones" feels like, "The Force Awakens"? That, "The Phantom Menace" feels like, "Revenge of the Sith"? There is such a clear difference in the feel and film "Star Wars", "The Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi" are. The main reason Empire got a weird reception when it came out. It was "too different" from "Star Wars".

This movie is probably going to be "Raiders of the Lost Ark", more then anything else. Actually scratch that, more "The Last Crusade".

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Serious question. What if what they were making was bad? Should they have just put it out?

Absolutely not, but they should have acted a whole lot sooner. That's what is so frustrating. These signs aren't new according to Lucasfilm, and they should have known long ago that it wasn't working.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Absolutely not, but they should have acted a whole lot sooner. That's what is so frustrating. These signs aren't new according to Lucasfilm, and they should have known long ago that it wasn't working.

Considering what I read, they liked what they were seeing daily. Then they started watching it it more together, and they started being really bothered and planning the reshoots.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Oh no they don't. They don't at all. You think, "Attack of the Clones" feels like, "The Force Awakens"? That, "The Phantom Menace" feels like, "Revenge of the Sith"?

This movie is probably going to be "Raiders of the Lost Ark", more then anything else. Actually scratch that, more "The Last Crusade".

They have enough of a style and feel of "action/adventure" film that yes, they all clearly belong to the same series. Are some darker than others? Sure. Are some more light-hearted? Sure. But is there a flat out comedy in the bunch? Absolutely not.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Considering what I read, they liked what they were seeing daily. Then they started watching it it more together, and they started being really bothered and planning the reshoots.

See, what I read said they were clashing IMMEDIATELY.

 

[chamber-music]

Indecisiveness all around from the sound of things.

 

[Sithborg]

I am pretty certain they didn't hire Lord and Miller to make a comedy.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Indecisiveness all around from the sound of things.

I can't imagine that Lucasfilm wants to become known as the studio that yanks the reins, but so far, they're 2/2.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I am pretty certain they didn't hire Lord and Miller to make a comedy.

Were they going to deliver a comedy? It seems like they just wanted more freedom to experiment with the material, which is fair, especially since that is how they work and how they have achieved their success.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

I am pretty certain they didn't hire Lord and Miller to make a comedy.

That's exactly the problem because it sounds like they think they were. Their improvisational style also seems to be something that Lucasfilm wasn't aware of. Like I said, from what I read, the Han Solo actor was even having problems because he was accused of whining and tattling.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

They have enough of a style and feel of "action/adventure" film that yes, they all clearly belong to the same series. Are some darker than others? Sure. Are some more light-hearted? Sure. But is there a flat out comedy in the bunch? Absolutely not.

Jar Jar Binks is sad you forgot he existed. And AotC is the Dante's Inferno of 21st century comedies.

Why would there be a flat out comedy featuring Han Solo?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

See, what I read said they were clashing IMMEDIATELY.

There are multiple articles. On going tension is not the Clash of the Titans, especially as they were apparently happy with the dailies in isolation.