Far From Home What would you like to see improved upon?

[Shikamaru]

If Homecoming was the first reboot after the trilogy, I think it still would've had the decent/overrated criticism from many. But of course, if Marvel had gotten Spidey immediately after SM3, the movie would've probably been much different anyway

I can see the good in Homecoming, but still it's maybe a bit half-assed, considering they had to fight the negativity from the ASM movies

Calling something decent/overrated isn't a crime, I do it all the time . But unlike other films I like where I respond to criticisms with "I disagree", to some of the Homecoming criticisms I respond with "Huh, that was in the movie? "

But only to certain criticisms. Certain ones I attribute to the marketing, the rest I do not. I don't think criticisms regarding, say, tone and plot can be attributed to the marketing. Criticisms regarding Peter blurting "awesome" every five seconds and Tony being all over the movie? Well, we can kinda objectively measure how much of those things are in the movie. And there's not much of them in it relative to the other Spider-Man/MCU solo films.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The love interest. Ditch MJ, give us Shuri.

 

[metaphysician]

. . . what sense would that make?

 

[Matleo]

- 6 spidermans movies?

-Kraven the hunter: tech + mutant or monster lion or tiger form
-dr octopus new form
- morbius the vampire
- venom and carnage
- more spiderman incarnations
- lizard comes back somehow?
-scorpion
-rhino in a real battle
-white tiger, iron fist, powerman nova as a team with spidy?

-better version of the goblin maybe that introduced with miles morales in ultimate spiderman?

-spiderverse plot line?


- spiderman transforms into the spidermonster?

could see more villians in one movie: could see 3 atleast in future ones, mono villian movies are enough from the past.

 

[Zant]

The love interest. Ditch MJ, give us Shuri.

Shuri being way smarter than Tony would be a plus for Peter

 

[Daltonio]

- Actually include good swinging scenes and action
- Acknowledge the existence of Uncle Ben
- Get rid of Karen and anything at all resembling Iron Man tech
- Introduce a real Mary Jane Watson
- Don't even mention Tony Stark. Biggest problem with the first movie. I want a Spider-Man movie. Not Iron Man 4.
- Give Peter some adderall to calm down

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

1. Uncle Ben flashback scenes. Not a death scene but at least Peter remembering his time with Ben. "Great power comes great responsibility" line thrown in.

2. No Michelle. Seriously, get this worthless character out of the MCU and this franchise. Give us the real MJ aka Mary Jane Watson.

3. Follow the comics more. Less changing things or people for the sake of changing.

4. Get away from Stark and start letting Peter Parker be his own man, design his own suits, web fluid and become the Spider-Man he is born to be.

5. The Osborns need to show up.

6. A better, more fleshed out relationship. Marvel has a tendency of making weak romantic moments. Let's get a female protagonist (Gwen or whoever) who fits with Peter versus forced or used to serve a story purpose (Liz).

 

[Shikamaru]

I guess I should answer the question.

1. Color palette. All Marvel movies have this problem. In Watts' defense, he's one of the first directors at Marvel to try to fix this issue. He made the colors red/green/purple stand out, but the rest of the film still looks like mud.

2. Cinematography. Again, problem with all the Marvel movies. It's especially disheartening given all the Sony films had great cinematography. That's the one great thing Spidey had even when his movies were bad.

3. Aunt May. She wasn't in it much, but so far she comes off like the klutz of the Lee/Ditko era. Give me the strong independent woman Bendis and JMS reinvented her into in the early 2000s. In Feige's defense, he said the Aunt May issue from JMS' run is the one thing he wants to adapt the most from Spider-Man. I seriously doubt anyone reads that book and goes "Hmm you know what'd be better? Klutz Aunt May! "

4. More bullying. I love Watts' idea of Peter being the poor kid at an elite school. It doesn't just make the bullying about Peter, it adds some serious social commentary to it. I wanna see more of that.

5. Flesh Flash out. Huh? Tongue twister . Like I said I like their idea for the bullying, but their Flash still comes off one-dimensional. Flash in the comics was both a bully you love to hate and a character that was fully dimensional. He doesn't have to be 616 Flash but make him just as nuanced.

6. Flesh out MJ. The one big change they haven't sold me on yet. the The fact they couldn't actually name her Mary Jane just screams of lack of confidence to me. If they don't have confidence in their new take, why should I? Still, they sold me on so many unconventional ideas for Homecoming I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. But overall it wasn't a good way to introduce the character (not the take, the name).

7. Set up Osborn. After all the working class parallels and big business talks, Osborn just fits too naturally in this franchise. Moreso than in any of the Sony films. It would be a huge missed opportunity to not have him, and I think they'll introduce him sooner than we expect.

8. Uncle Ben. Mention him. Talk about him. And most importantly, do it in such way it doesn't feel contrived.

 

[LTuser]

- Actually include good swinging scenes and action
- Acknowledge the existence of Uncle Ben
- Get rid of Karen and anything at all resembling Iron Man tech
- Introduce a real Mary Jane Watson
- Don't even mention Tony Stark. Biggest problem with the first movie. I want a Spider-Man movie. Not Iron Man 4.
- Give Peter some adderall to calm down

I agree on the get rid of the super suit.. I always loved it best when he made his OWN suit.

BUT i didn't mind what little stark we had in this film..

 

[Spider-Aziz]

5. Flesh Flash out. Huh? Tongue twister .

This one's alright. Try saying 'Flesh Flash's Fish'

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

The Sokovian Accords are in effect, yet Peter Parker has just about the only secret identity in the MCU. As he ages towards his majority and adulthood there should be pressures from those who know in the Stark/Avengers organization as well as from JJ.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

The Sokovian Accords are in effect, yet Peter Parker has just about the only secret identity in the MCU. As he ages towards his majority and adulthood there should be pressures from those who know in the Stark/Avengers organization as well as from JJ.

Spoiler

And lead to this?

 

[LTuser]

The Sokovian Accords are in effect, yet Peter Parker has just about the only secret identity in the MCU. As he ages towards his majority and adulthood there should be pressures from those who know in the Stark/Avengers organization as well as from JJ.

I'd really hate to see pete being forced to 'come out' with his secret ID..

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Better action/fight scenes

Give us a damn epic swinging scene this time please!

More Aunt May and less Ned.

If Zendaya is going to be our MJ, flesh her out more.

Mention Uncle Ben for crying out loud, From watching Homecoming you wouldn’t even know
Peter lost what is essentially his father.

 

[Pennywise]

Better action/fight scenes

Give us a damn epic swinging scene this time please!

More Aunt May and less Ned.

If Zendaya is going to be our MJ, flesh her out more.

Mention Uncle Ben for crying out loud, From watching Homecoming you wouldn’t even know
Peter lost what is essentially his father.

Agree with the list!

 

[Web-Head]

My main things as of now are better action/fight scenes and give the supporting cast a bigger and better role.

Look at the supporting cast in Black Panther, they pretty much all stood out! Aunt May had what, 3 scenes in Homecoming? They talked up the supporting cast and really they were just kinda...there, except Ned.

 

[Chris B]

Flesh out MJ. The one big change they haven't sold me on yet. the The fact they couldn't actually name her Mary Jane just screams of lack of confidence to me. If they don't have confidence in their new take, why should I? Still, they sold me on so many unconventional ideas for Homecoming I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. But overall it wasn't a good way to introduce the character (not the take, the name).

I'm hoping that as the series moves along, they start to develop her into something resembling a classic rendition of Mary Jane. If she's not going to have that name, at least give her the personality.

 

[LTuser]

But why do they need to 'flesh out MJ"?? She's at most a supporting character.

 

[SpideyJJ]

Why flesh her out when they should just get rid of her altogether

 

[Tacit Ronin]

But why do they need to 'flesh out MJ"?? She's at most a supporting character.

Supporting character doesn't mean glorified cameo.

 

[Galactus123]

-No high tech A.I suit that talks to him. Spidey shouldn't have a suit like.

-Less jokes. Spider-Man movie can have humor but it shouldn't be a comedy

-Uncle Ben needs to be mentioned

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

Wow, looking at this thread it looks like everybody wants to turn Spider-Man boring.

Spider-Man: Homecoming was the most comics-accurate version of the character in film and I don't think there's a great deal needed to improve it other than web slinging scenes.

 

[PhasedPlasma101]

Shuri being way smarter than Tony would be a plus for Peter

How exactly is Shuri way smarter than Tony?

She's a brilliant scientist/ inventor but while she uses mined Vibranium from her nation's rich supply, Tony invented a new element to save this life for the arc reactor that he used to create an metal battle suit to escape a terrorist cave.

Even if Shuri wasn't confined to Wakanda, I sincerely doubt she wiould be on Stark's level. What's with trying to discredit one of the best CB movie heroes who has done some of the coolest **** ever for a character?

Oh yea. She's a black woman so it's essential for some to elevate her over ****ing Iron Man. LMAO slow your role

 

[The Sand Master]

Wow, looking at this thread there's a certain individual that really doesn't know the Spider-Man.

 

[Arachnerd]

Wow, looking at this thread it looks like everybody wants to turn Spider-Man boring.

Spider-Man: Homecoming was the most comics-accurate version of the character in film and I don't think there's a great deal needed to improve it other than web slinging scenes.

Gotta love the holier-than-thou attitude here. That'll get you places in this forum.