Captain Marvel Spoilers Thread

[Tg11]

So if Carol has always known about The Avengers, then she may have done her research on every single one of them

 

[Thome216]

She probably is aware of the snap and once she got the page she knew something must have been happening back on Earth.

Since the Snap involved the entire universe, I'm assuming it affected people she knew.

So if Carol has always known about The Avengers, then she may have done her research on every single one of them

I can see some communications going back and forth between Carol and Fury. They could retcon that he texted her about the NY invasion, but then said they had it solved before she could show up. But of course, this time he can't answer back. And I'm thinking, what if the signal from the pager was really a signal being received, and it was Carol leaving it 'ringing' until she showed up, hoping to the last second that Fury would answer?

 

[Tg11]

Since the Snap involved the entire universe, I'm assuming it affected people she knew.



I can see some communications going back and forth between Carol and Fury. They could retcon that he texted her about the NY invasion, but then said they had it solved before she could show up. But of course, this time he can't answer back. And I'm thinking, what if the signal from the pager was really a signal being received, and it was Carol leaving it 'ringing' until she showed up, hoping to the last second that Fury would answer?

Very possible as well which then makes me wonder if by extension if she knows Hill, Natasha and or Clint already through Fury

 

[kvz5]

So if Carol has always known about The Avengers, then she may have done her research on every single one of them

Which would lead to a potentially tense dynamic. She knows stuff about them and yet they know nothing about her. I’m really excited about the potential storylines.

I also think it’s very likely that for the sequel they will explore stories in the past which could explain why she’s not around.

 

[Thome216]

I wouldn't be surprised if she just knows names. As far as we know, the only form of comm they had was the pager, which doesn't lend itself to lengthy conversations.

 

[flickchick85]

I think it's interesting that people are assuming she never came back to Earth. Her family - Maria and Monica - are here. She might have even taken Goose back from Fury at some point. Just because she didn't do any high profile superheroics while she was here doesn't mean she didn't visit. She certainly did in the comics even when she was in "intergalactic diplomat" mode, whenever she had the opportunity to take a breather and decompress.

 

[All-Father]

So, I haven't watched the movie yet (only next weekend), but I want to know of the power levels: is Carol that much powerful than all the MCU heroes so far?

 

[Hotwire]

So, I haven't watched the movie yet (only next weekend), but I want to know of the power levels: is Carol that much powerful than all the MCU heroes so far?

Maybe second to Thor.

 

[Web-Head]

So, I haven't watched the movie yet (only next weekend), but I want to know of the power levels: is Carol that much powerful than all the MCU heroes so far?

I wouldn't say that, no. Certainly not "that much more powerful"

 

[kvz5]

Nah. I think she’s on par with Thor. BUT... she’s still learning her powers so if she’s had years of practice then maybe but for now, no...

 

[writer0327]

So, I haven't watched the movie yet (only next weekend), but I want to know of the power levels: is Carol that much powerful than all the MCU heroes so far?

Yep pretty much. She is equal to the Hulk in strength with plasma fire and the ability to fly.

 

[terry78]

After a couple decades of fighting other hostiles shess probably pretty damn strong now.

 

[Web-Head]

It'll definitely be insane to see just how much stronger she'll be in Endgame. The fact that the Russos are going to be the ones to showcase that?

 

[All-Father]

I ask this out of curiosity because I've seen a lot of "at most she's equal to Thor", which doesn't fit what we've been listening about her from Feige, for example.

 

[flickchick85]

I ask this out of curiosity because I've seen a lot of "at most she's equal to Thor", which doesn't fit what we've been listening about her from Feige, for example.

Well, in this film, she literally just starts getting the hang of her powers at the end, and at that point, she seems on par with Thor (wielding Stormbreaker). 24 years later, who knows. She DOES display what appears to be the ability to travel at light speed at the end, which is something she could do in Binary mode in the comics, and they haven't explored the potential of her energy absorption yet, so I think she's certainly potentially the most powerful.

 

[legendkillin]

So, I haven't watched the movie yet (only next weekend), but I want to know of the power levels: is Carol that much powerful than all the MCU heroes so far?

I feel like she can be described as a walking Infinity Stone that has control and understanding of her powers. Vision was a walking stone but had no clue about how to improve his ability.

 

[writer0327]

Funniest scene for me: "Its Loading"
My kids had no idea what was so funny or why people were laughing.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Question:

I ALWAYS see around here people posting opinions along the lines of "I don't want current music in film X or references to pop culture in film Y because it will date them. Films should be timeless and this breaks that illusion."

Uh... Okay. And yet... People were CLAMORING for this film to be loaded with old music and references, many which, just looking at the above post, were not at all familiar to viewers of the younger generation NOW. So... How opaque will the humor in this film be to an audience in only ten years?

My point is... Why is putting current music or popular culture references into a movie made today a no-no under the rationale that it "dates" the film but this film got a pass for frankly, being instantaneously "dated"? I don't get the reasoning.

 

[flickchick85]

Question:

I ALWAYS see around here people posting opinions along the lines of "I don't want current music in film X or references to pop culture in film Y because it will date them. Films should be timeless and this breaks that illusion."

Uh... Okay. And yet... People were CLAMORING for this film to be loaded with old music and references, many which, just looking at the above post, were not at all familiar to viewers of the younger generation NOW. So... How opaque will the humor in this film be to an audience in only ten years?

My point is... Why is putting current music or popular culture references into a movie made today a no-no under the rationale that it "dates" the film but this film got a pass for frankly, being instantaneously "dated"? I don't get the reasoning.

It's the difference between doing something intentionally, or doing it by accident. When you're making a period piece, you KNOW what stuck from that time period and what was forgotten, what is looked back on fondly and what's not. And you tailor your references based on that. Making a contemporary film, it's kind of a crap-shoot - it can turn out to be a nifty little time capsule, or it may just come across woefully out of touch in a few years.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

It's the difference between doing something intentionally, or doing it by accident. When you're making a period piece, you KNOW what stuck from that time period and what was forgotten, what is looked back on fondly and what's not. And you tailor your references based on that. Making a contemporary film, it's kind of a crap-shoot - it can turn out to be a nifty little time capsule, or it may just come across woefully out of touch in a few years.

See... That still isn't a reason to not include music or current culture into a contemporary film. As noted, even the stuff that "stuck" is still going to be unfamiliar to an audience that's going to be younger with no frame of reference REGARDLESS. Films are going to age. Those made in their time are always going to be time capsules of the moment they are made. The conventions of the day, the tech, the politics (yup... whether trying or not the politics of the day are going to be seen in some way in a film) fashions... All are gonna mark it as a film made in year X.

I've never understood the issue with this and that CM made a "virtue" of it when it's apparent that there's a load of younger people in the audience that aren't on first view and without someone older telling them why such and such is being referenced or the like... I find it strange.

 

[Patrick77]

Is it a widely held view that films can actually be timeless or disconnected from their own time?

I would have thought that this would be more of a short-term illusion, and that films tend to end up being very strongly connected to the period in which they were made, even if they avoid explicit references.

Maybe the tendency that you're talking about is like an effort to prolong the sense of timelessness for as long as possible.

I would guess that the references in Captain Marvel and similar films will eventually feel dated as well, but more in a "That's what they chose to reference from the 90's, isn't that odd and interesting!" sort of way. But I guess that it might take longer, because we already have a little distance.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Is it a widely held view that films can actually be timeless or disconnected from their own time?

I would have thought that this would be more of a short-term illusion, and that films tend to end up being very strongly connected to the period in which they were made, even if they avoid explicit references.

Maybe the tendency that you're talking about is like an effort to prolong the sense of timelessness for as long as possible.

I would guess that the references in Captain Marvel and similar films will eventually feel dated as well, but more in a "That's what they chose to reference from the 90's, isn't that odd and interesting!" sort of way. But I guess that it might take longer, because we already have a little distance.

That's certainly an obvious implication given that the opinion that films being made "today" should shy away from anything popular in the culture is readily seen in many places online like the Hype.

Personally... I find it silly AF. Something can actually be "universal" to a fault.

 

[Patrick77]

I can see an argument for avoiding certain things that feel awkward, or almost like pandering. The facebook line from the first Thor movie comes to mind.

But I would basically agree with you that it's probably futile to push this to an extreme. Certain details or choices that really end up dating a film might be imperceptible when the film is made, which is what flickchick was alluding to earlier.

A film like Captain Marvel has a little more distance, but really not a lot. It will still probably end up feeling connected to how we perceive the 90's at this time.

 

[flickchick85]

See... That still isn't a reason to not include music or current culture into a contemporary film. As noted, even the stuff that "stuck" is still going to be unfamiliar to an audience that's going to be younger with no frame of reference REGARDLESS. Films are going to age. Those made in their time are always going to be time capsules of the moment they are made. The conventions of the day, the tech, the politics (yup... whether trying or not the politics of the day are going to be seen in some way in a film) fashions... All are gonna mark it as a film made in year X.

I've never understood the issue with this and that CM made a "virtue" of it when it's apparent that there's a load of younger people in the audience that aren't on first view and without someone older telling them why such and such is being referenced or the like... I find it strange.

Some things simply don't age well, for various reasons, while others become iconic staples of the era, good or bad. It's not more complicated than that, imo. Whether or not you like an outdated reference is subjective. Context is key, though.

I've never seen anyone vehemently against contemporary music in present day films, though. I've seen people against too many references to whatever the "hot thing of the moment" is, that a faction of people don't like and would consider passing fads that they suspect to be irrelevant in a year's time...but I think there's a whole other psychological thing at work there (like acknowledging it in film is immortalizing it in a way it doesn't "deserve" or something).

 

[Tg11]

I do have to wonder if Monica died in the Snap in present day