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So exciting to think we're probably gonna be seeing a lot more of Danos Riddler in the next trailer. I feel like his character is so wrapped up in mystery, and with how great of an actor Dano is, I just can't wait to see what he's cooking up.
 
It’s crazy to think about TDK, and really that whole trilogy, in relation to the film we’re about to receive.

Both have had the words “grounded” and “realism” applied to them and yet (and, granted, just based on one short trailer) the outcome of each film feels so different.
totally, Nolan's world seemed so grounded in a, no so much boring way.... but like, it felt like it was trying too hard to look normal, but then you had two face, and it got kinda weird... like, a lot of it, for me, didn't feel organic normal. Like Bane, they made it very realistic, but at the same time, it felt very surreal - joker, scarecrow etc

This version looks organic, that's all I can say.
 
totally, Nolan's world seemed so grounded in a, no so much boring way.... but like, it felt like it was trying too hard to look normal, but then you had two face, and it got kinda weird... like, a lot of it, for me, didn't feel organic normal. Like Bane, they made it very realistic, but at the same time, it felt very surreal - joker, scarecrow etc

This version looks organic, that's all I can say.

I think the difference is this:

Nolan's Gotham is meant to juxtapose larger than life characters against a city that feels like a world we recognize. It's meant to contrast those things. IE Richard Donner's Superman.

Reeve's approach, while darker and more 'realistic' on the surface, seems to be going back to the Burton approach of crafting a fictional city and aesthetic for Batman and the rogues to be in harmony with. IE it's stylized in the same way a movie like Se7en is.

In that way it could almost be seen as a synthesis of all that's come before.
 
I wouldn’t say it’s more realistic. It’s more detail oriented. There is a focus on the granular aspects of the world. While Nolan’s films were more sweeping and epic. Reeve’s world is stylized. That’s why it’s raining 24/7. That’s not real. It’s evoking a style.
 
I wouldn’t say it’s more realistic. It’s more detail oriented. There is a focus on the granular aspects of the world. While Nolan’s films were more sweeping and epic. Reeve’s world is stylized. That’s why it’s raining 24/7. That’s not real. It’s evoking a style.
I mean...
1. We don't know if in Reeve's world it's really "raining 24/7". From what we saw of the funeral scene, the press conference scene and the shots of Selina going to the graveyard it's not raining there.
2. There are places in real life where it constantly rains.
 
I mean...
1. We don't know if in Reeve's world it's really "raining 24/7". From what we saw of the funeral scene, the press conference scene and the shots of Selina going to the graveyard it's not raining there.
2. There are places in real life where it constantly rains.

Yeah if they wanted to be 100% accurate to Glasgow weather, there would not be a single scene where it wasn't raining lmao
 
I think the difference is this:

Nolan's Gotham is meant to juxtapose larger than life characters against a city that feels like a world we recognize. It's meant to contrast those things. IE Richard Donner's Superman.

Reeve's approach, while darker and more 'realistic' on the surface, seems to be going back to the Burton approach of crafting a fictional city and aesthetic for Batman and the rogues to be in harmony with. IE it's stylized in the same way a movie like Se7en is.

In that way it could almost be seen as a synthesis of all that's come before.

Well said. I completely agree.
 
I'm honestly curious what the teaser poster for this will look like
 
I keep forgetting that Andy Serkis is in this. It's weird that we haven't seen any image of Alfred yet.

Watch Reeves going even more controversial than others and killing off Alfred right away...

Just kidding, but I'm seriously impressed that I haven't already read that theory somewhere aha :funny:
 
I keep forgetting that Andy Serkis is in this. It's weird that we haven't seen any image of Alfred yet.
We may not have seen him, but unlike a good half of the cast, we have heard him.
 
Just because it looks more gothic and nightmarish than Nolan’s Gotham, doesn’t mean it’s less realistic. If anything is more stylistic it’s the cinematography. You’d be surprised by how creepy certain corners of the world are.
 
I think the difference is this:

Nolan's Gotham is meant to juxtapose larger than life characters against a city that feels like a world we recognize. It's meant to contrast those things. IE Richard Donner's Superman.

Reeve's approach, while darker and more 'realistic' on the surface, seems to be going back to the Burton approach of crafting a fictional city and aesthetic for Batman and the rogues to be in harmony with. IE it's stylized in the same way a movie like Se7en is.

In that way it could almost be seen as a synthesis of all that's come before.

nice view, I appreciate it, that's why I guess Nolan's never felt organic to me as the two were juxtaposed, where as what I am seeing with Reeves... it's like the grotty alleyways we try to avoid walking down, in our mind, our memory.... that's how the city looks at night... like, as a kid, walking back to the car from the movies, the city felt like that.... also, Burton captured that too.. with Nolan I felt I was in a financial district and could get a Starbucks at any time...
our mind play tricks and gives us a darker reality at times...

I wouldn’t say it’s more realistic. It’s more detail oriented. There is a focus on the granular aspects of the world. While Nolan’s films were more sweeping and epic. Reeve’s world is stylized. That’s why it’s raining 24/7. That’s not real. It’s evoking a style.
I can tell ya, raining 24/7 can be very real...

Just because it looks more gothic and nightmarish than Nolan’s Gotham, doesn’t mean it’s less realistic. If anything is more stylistic it’s the cinematography. You’d be surprised by how creepy certain corners of the world are.
totally.. our mind, when we look at Gotham, if we lived there... we would assume it's like Reeve's world, when in reality, it's Nolan's.
 
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