BOX-OFFICE potential in the Multiverse of Madness

Top Gun 2 is a lock for one billion.

Dr Strange 2 will settle around 950m.

I'm not sure about Dominion. Maybe in the high 800's or low 900's.
That sounds about right to me. I just got back from seeing dominion and it wasn’t as bad as I feared it would be. Based on the fact that everyone in the entire world is exactly like me, I’d give dominion a decent chance to go over 900 million, but I think you’re pretty much spot on. Not being an Oracle, we’ll just have to wait and see.
 
That sounds about right to me. I just got back from seeing dominion and it wasn’t as bad as I feared it would be. Based on the fact that everyone in the entire world is exactly like me, I’d give dominion a decent chance to go over 900 million, but I think you’re pretty much spot on. Not being an Oracle, we’ll just have to wait and see.

I feel Dominion is going to play roughly like Fallen Kingdom. Audience score is ok across the board (79% on RT, A- CS). I don’t see signs that it is being rejected by viewers so it could very well finish with 375/400M dom. Based on the current dom/os split, the low end of these estimates puts it at 960M+. And it still has Japan and Russia lined up in the coming weeks (for reference FK did 92M+ on those markets). I think it does 1B+.

And yes TG is poised for 1B+. Even if it slows down os I feel it’s dom gross alone would get it there (almost).

It has really been a great couple of months for theaters with heavy hitters keeping their end of the bargain and a sleeper-hit that greatly exceeded expectations. Here’s hoping the rest of the summer will on point as well.
 
Overall 2022 seems to be a bounce back year for the box office overall. Man, remember a year or so ago when all the major news outlets were saying Covid was the death knell of the theater industry? Granted, I cant really blame them too much because things were just dire in general with everything surrounding covid but I always felt that moviegoing couldnt be eradicated so easily. People still love to go out to the movies with their friends, family, dates etc to watch feel good fun blockbusters and as long as Disney, WB, universal, Paramount etc continue to put out crowd pleasing movies, people will flock to them.
 
Overall 2022 seems to be a bounce back year for the box office overall. Man, remember a year or so ago when all the major news outlets were saying Covid was the death knell of the theater industry? Granted, I cant really blame them too much because things were just dire in general with everything surrounding covid but I always felt that moviegoing couldnt be eradicated so easily. People still love to go out to the movies with their friends, family, dates etc to watch feel good fun blockbusters and as long as Disney, WB, universal, Paramount etc continue to put out crowd pleasing movies, people will flock to them.
There’s something to moviegoing beyond the film itself in the same way that people go to restaurants not only for the food. There’s a social tradition there that I don’t think people will ever want to permanently give up no matter how great and convenient home cinema gets in future.
 
There’s something to moviegoing beyond the film itself in the same way that people go to restaurants not only for the food. There’s a social tradition there that I don’t think people will ever want to permanently give up no matter how great and convenient home cinema gets in future.

Watching No Way Home last Christmas especially reminded me how special the moviegoing experience can be. That was hands down one of the best theater experiences of my life and something sorely needed after the past two years.
 
There’s something to moviegoing beyond the film itself in the same way that people go to restaurants not only for the food. There’s a social tradition there that I don’t think people will ever want to permanently give up no matter how great and convenient home cinema gets in future.

Most of the general audience will still go to the theaters, but for the right film. It has to be worth it, IMO. Top Gun was a unique case, but for the most part, people will only go for MCU and dinosaurs. There will always be a place for blockbusters. The medium and small size movies will have a hard time and will probably do better on streaming.
 
Cinemas are steadily recovering after the pandemic and I've come to the conclusion that the audience for medium and small size movies just seems to be taking a little bit longer to visit them. But there is certainly an upwards trend.

Take this year's Paramount films for example. Besides Top Gun that became a massive hit you have Sonic 2 that already has made more than the first one, which came before the lockdowns, and it keeps going. The Lost City did really well for an original film and then you have Jackass and Scream that were very successful as well. Everything, Everywhere, All at Once is A24's highest grossing film. Elvis is tracking to make 110-170 million in the US alone, Black Phone another 45-70.

I think slowly but steadily people will return to cinemas for all kinds of movies. It may take a few years and maybe it won't be exactly like before due to streaming, but there is a need for this kind of experience that will never be replaced with home video. To go out, to be around people, to participate in a collective way. It's like thinking that once food deliveries started to happen people would stop going out to eat.

Hopefully this box office rising will continue for cinemas in the future and waiting for a streaming release will always be an option for those who prefer the comfort of their household.
 
It's unfortunate, I would have liked to see how WW84, TSS, Black Widow, Shang Chi and Eternals would have done in a non pandemic situation.
 
I find that incredibly funny. It's like the number gods are intentionally screwing with us. :funny:
When Prison Mike asked I was expecting it to have squeaked over by now lol.
 
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It's unfortunate, I would have liked to see how WW84, TSS, Black Widow, Shang Chi and Eternals would have done in a non pandemic situation.

TSS still would have bombed.
WW84 would have done ok but below the first film.
Black Widow would have done 1B+ assuming it kept its original date and no ban in some foreign markets.
Shang Chi would have done gangbuster business. Note quite sure about 1B but surely close even with the China ban.
Eternals is harder. I don’t see its numbers being drastically different. Maybe around 600M but probably not a lot more than that. Had it kept its original release date riding the coattails of other very successful movies could have pushed it past that but I feel the reception wasn’t there for a breakout success.
 
TSS still would have bombed.
WW84 would have done ok but below the first film.
Black Widow would have done 1B+ assuming it kept its original date and no ban in some foreign markets.
Shang Chi would have done gangbuster business. Note quite sure about 1B but surely close even with the China ban.
Eternals is harder. I don’t see its numbers being drastically different. Maybe around 600M but probably not a lot more than that. Had it kept its original release date riding the coattails of other very successful movies could have pushed it past that but I feel the reception wasn’t there for a breakout success.

And the truth is.......we'll never know. My guess is that BW was harmed most because we were just coming out of the pandemic and that stupid, stupid Disney release. It should have been released (with some changes of course) after IW. I think that would have gone gangbusters at the BO.
 
And the truth is.......we'll never know. My guess is that BW was harmed most because we were just coming out of the pandemic and that stupid, stupid Disney release. It should have been released (with some changes of course) after IW. I think that would have gone gangbusters at the BO.

Very true. The timing of release for this film (and by that I mean even the original release date) puzzles me to this day. And even from a narrative standpoint it would have been a richer way to explore Natasha’s character, struggle and growth making her subsequent sacrifice more meaningful.

I understand they had to do Ant-Man and the Wasp for Quantum Realm shenanigans’ sake but BW absolutely should have been a fall/winter 2018 film.
 
It should have been 2016. 2017-2019 MCU was doing 3 movies a year already. Make Doctor Strange an August release and have Black Widow be the November release. Of course Pugh would only have been 19 years old, but it probably would still have worked. Obviously there's also the issue of Feige and Pelmutter 2014/2015 so things were already set for 2016.
 
Marvel has had ten movies that have made at least $400 million domestically, and Scarlet Witch has appeared in five of them.
 
Marvel has had ten movies that have made at least $400 million domestically, and Scarlet Witch has appeared in five of them.
I haven’t checked out the specifics but I think that could be said about a whole bunch of marvel characters. Because you’ve been in movies that have done well doesn’t mean you’re the cause of it. Although, I totally get that she’s a very popular character.
 

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