Discussion: The DEMOCRATIC P - Part 3

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

2018 California Gubernatorial Election
Newsom (D): 61.9% (7,721,410 votes)
Cox (R): 38.1% (4,742,825 votes)

^ I think that's more of the number to compare. Governor's contest vs. governor recall contest.

https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/sov/2018-general/sov/2018-complete-sov.pdf

2020 California Presidential Election
Biden (D): 63.5% (11,110,250 votes)
Trump (R): 34.3% (6,006,429 votes)

https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/sov/2020-general/sov/complete-sov.pdf

Recall Governor Newsom? (~99% of results in)
No 61.9% (7,927,249 votes)
Yes 38.1% (4,874,057 votes)

The leading R candidate Larry Elder has 27.7% of the overall total vote.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

PennLive - Lt. Gov. Fetterman touts underspending his office’s budget by $776,000 for the last 2 years
Lt. Gov. John Fetterman reports that his office has underspent its budget for the past two years by $776,000 and said it's an example of how he is living up to his "platform of good governance" that he ran on to get elected.

Associated Press - Pennsylvania attorney general [Josh Shapiro] jumps into '22 governor's race

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

John Yarmuth, powerful liberal from Kentucky, announces he'll retire from Congress at the end of his term - CNNPolitics

WLKY - Sen. Morgan McGarvey will run to fill Rep. Yarmuth's seat

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Associated Press - Climate change: North Carolina gov signs major energy law

Associated Press - [Virginia Democratic Gubernatorial candidate] McAuliffe urges Dems to use muscle on voting, infrastructure

 

[Lily Adler]

Warren: Billionaires who 'have enough money to shoot themselves into space' will pay for reconciliation bill

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Remember to vote in Virginia...and New Jersey!

McAuliffe was last elected Virginia governor in 2013 (they limit their governors to one term consecutively there) with 48% to Cuccinelli's (R) 45%.



And vote in all the state elections. You know, there's elections more than every four years or even two years (turnout drops too much from presidential election years and the unsavory take advantage of that fact!) I'm early voting tomorrow in my state!

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Salon.com - [Senator] Sinema ditches Senate negotiations for fundraising trip to Europe
Sinema jetted off to Paris while her newfound Republican friends run ads using her to attack Democrats back home

MotherJones - Kyrsten Sinema Might Be the Most Important Vote in the Senate. Good Luck Trying to Talk to Her.
“We don’t know where she’s at. All she does is ignore and keep silent.”

Reuters - Senator Sinema rejects vote on big Biden package before infrastructure -source

Huffpost - Progressive Group’s Poll Suggests Deep Primary Trouble For Kyrsten Sinema

But head-to-head matchups drive home how dire Sinema’s position could be. All four potential challengers have massive leads: Ruben Gallego leads Sinema 62% to 23%; Kate Gallego has a 60% to 25% edge; Stanton leads 59% to 24%; and Romero leads 55% to 26%.

 

[Lily Adler]

Report: Sinema Tells House Dems She Won’t Vote For Reconciliation Bill Until After BIF Is Passed

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Literally nobody: ...
Krysten Sinema: Kyrsten Sinema tells friends she's 'overqualified' to be President: report

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

I mean if she's comparing herself to the former guy...

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Former President Bill Clinton admitted to hospital - CNNPolitics

Former President Bill Clinton has been admitted to the University of California Irvine Medical Center for a non-Covid-related infection. He is "on the mend" and "in good spirits," according to a statement from Clinton spokesman Angel Urena.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Salon.com - [Senator] Sinema ditches Senate negotiations for fundraising trip to Europe
Sinema jetted off to Paris while her newfound Republican friends run ads using her to attack Democrats back home

MotherJones - Kyrsten Sinema Might Be the Most Important Vote in the Senate. Good Luck Trying to Talk to Her.
“We don’t know where she’s at. All she does is ignore and keep silent.”

Reuters - Senator Sinema rejects vote on big Biden package before infrastructure -source

Huffpost - Progressive Group’s Poll Suggests Deep Primary Trouble For Kyrsten Sinema

If the "both sides" argument was a person.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

MotherJones - Big GOP Donors Poured Money Into Kyrsten Sinema’s Campaign in September

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

 

[Lily Adler]

I know her win is a long shot, but Florida needs a savior right now.

 

[Marvolo]

Salon.com - [Senator] Sinema ditches Senate negotiations for fundraising trip to Europe
Sinema jetted off to Paris while her newfound Republican friends run ads using her to attack Democrats back home

MotherJones - Kyrsten Sinema Might Be the Most Important Vote in the Senate. Good Luck Trying to Talk to Her.
“We don’t know where she’s at. All she does is ignore and keep silent.”

Reuters - Senator Sinema rejects vote on big Biden package before infrastructure -source

Huffpost - Progressive Group’s Poll Suggests Deep Primary Trouble For Kyrsten Sinema

And yet the party will continue giving her money and access to its resources and assets.

 

[Sithborg]

They are not going to try to denier access like other incumbents.

But, she is not making very many allies...

 

[Lily Adler]

And yet the party will continue giving her money and access to its resources and assets.

She still wears a D next to her name. Until she makes a switch she will be privy to it.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

The legislative agenda - voting rights, police reform, etc. - is essentially all over anyway without filibuster reform regardless of what Manchin decides to call himself so let him cry.

NY Times - Key to Biden’s Climate Agenda Likely to Be Cut Because of Manchin Opposition

Business Insider - Manchin's $60,000 [combined parent] income threshold for Biden's expanded child tax credit could cause 37.4 million kids to lose out on federal aid

Just because the cost and standard of living in WV is low doesn’t mean every other state should be brought down to WV’s level. Same goes for the climate.

The legislative agenda - voting rights, police reform, etc. - is essentially all over anyway without filibuster reform regardless of what Manchin decides to call himself so let him cry.

The only reason this budget had even a chance at being passed is because it can't be filibustered like the others. It's one of the many exceptions.

(Most State legislatures do not have a filibuster.)



I was against primarying Manchin as it's the second most Trumpy state in the United States (it's more overwhelmingly white and more uneducated than the average state) but if Manchin wants to eliminate himself from the party just let him go.

The Guardian - Joe Manchin, America’s climate decider-in-chief, is a coal baron

It turns out that the Senator wielding this awesome power – America’s climate decider-in-chief, one might call him – has a massive climate conflict of interest. Joe Manchin, investigative journalism has revealed, is a modern-day coal baron.
Financial records detailed by reporter Alex Kotch for the Center for Media and Democracy and published in the Guardian show that Manchin makes roughly half a million dollars a year in dividends from millions of dollars of coal company stock he owns. The stock is held in Enersystems, Inc, a company Manchin started in 1988 and later gave to his son, Joseph, to run.

EDIT: Manchin has called the story 'rumors' and 'bull****', but it would not be the first time he's issued threats of going away (2018).

 

[Boy Scout]

If this is true, I want to be clear…

F****, f***, f***, f***, f*** Joe Manchin.

 

[Sithborg]

Pushing Manching out now is bad. That is how we get Leader McConnell again.

 

[Sithborg]

Ouch.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

It's not really a Democratic majority when at least two of the people are unreliable for anything and actively sabotage things and take hostages while they're at it.

I've defended against primarying Manchin in the past, but if he wants to immolate himself, I'm not going to stand next to him.