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This sounds like trying to make excuses for why people don't crossover more than anything.
Can I just say again that Daisy is an idiot. Ruby is imbued with the power to rip the earth apart. She has two psychotic minds fighting for control of her body, and Ruby herself wasnt very stable to begin with. Ruby says she is losing control. ****s shaking and Ruby is having temper tantrums. And Daisy's bright idea is to have a therapy session with that ticking timebomb. ****ing hell. At least YoYo was there to do the smart thing.
This sounds like trying to make excuses for why people don't crossover more than anything.
Well yea kinda. I mean tonally some of the shows just don't match. The inhuman outbreak completely not acknowledge by the MCU.
The connected tv and movie universe's is an experiment. Some experiments don't give you the best results and some experiments just out right fail.
I'm not totally sold by the way Marvel are handling the connectivity between the movies and the Tv world. I would consider this a failed experiment.
Is it even necessary for the tv and movies to connect at this point? Will Infinity War effect season 2 of the Punisher, or whatever happens in Luke Cage and Jessica Jones?
If I was Marvel I would just say let it go at this point.
Essentially S.H.I.E.L.D is a collection of vigilantes who decided to follow Phil Coulson and Director Coulson thinks an Inhuman, or at least enhanced person should lead S.H.I.E.L.D
Wow they've written her into Mary Sue levels of nonsense. I would have respected her more if she made the hard decision to actually kill Ruby and deal with the guilt of murder, but now she the virtuous leader.
Hasn't May got decades more experience than her? Why isn't she the leader?
To be fair, how effected was Punisher War Zone when Infinity Gauntlet happened in the comics? Not very, right? Characters not at the center of an event like that will necessarily be effected. Sometimes, characters are not involved or other events just are not relevant. The world/universe is a big place.
Essentially S.H.I.E.L.D is a collection of vigilantes who decided to follow Phil Coulson and Director Coulson thinks an Inhuman, or at least enhanced person should lead S.H.I.E.L.D
Any one from Mac or May to a redshirt that Deathlok flew in can leave anytime and live a life with government benefits like Sharon Carter but they trust in their unique mission and Coulson so they stay.
Aren't they still on the run though?Any one from Mac or May to a redshirt that Deathlok flew in can leave anytime and live a life with government benefits like Sharon Carter but they trust in their unique mission and Coulson so they stay.
It's pretty simple. Like I already said in theory, the Netflix, ABC, MCU are in different universe's.
Different universes can still have parallel events like "the incident". But maybe the incident played out differently in the Netflix universe than they did in the MCU.
Runaways haven't even alluded to even minor MCU things like Stark tech, "The incident", Sakovia accords etc.
The Nick Fury that appeared in the first episode of AoS was the ABC doppleganger of the MCU's Nick.
The "it's all connected philosophy" hasn't really benefited the tv shows the way they've benefited the movies.
Doesn't bother me either way. Just something to think about.
Yea that seems to be the case on the show, and I have to call AoS out for bad writing. What has Daisy done to earn the right to be leader? Especially when May is right there. But whatever.
Aren't they still on the run though?
Ruby only had 8% of the Gravitonium in her body. 8% is not enough to tear the earth apart.
How do you introduce the idea that this is the case? The producers have said it's not. Is the plan to just ignore what they say?
I'm not saying it WILL be done, I'm not even saying it should be done, I'm just saying the door is open if they change there mind and decide to go in that direction. The mulitverse was already hinted on in Dr Strange, and even Deke talked about alternate universe's being formed via time travel.
So from a creative pov it's not impossible or hard to explain.
They'll probably never do it because it's like Marvel admitting defeat. Most likely continue to function the way it is now with brief references here and there.
I still don't think you understand my question. What actually physical mechanism would they have to do to declare them to be separate universe? How would they do it?
I still don't think you understand my question. What actually physical mechanism would they have to do to declare them to be separate universe? How would they do it?
I would imagine that it would look like The Flash only with a Dr Strange/Ghost Rider porthole or another colored Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. monolith. Only then what is to prevent Sony from doing that to Spider-Man or an Edgar Wright to do that for Ant-Man and bang the MCU is dead, long live a director's singular vision of a bought product he will adapt. And we are back to conventional entertainment making
This is a lot of mental gymnastics just to erase Inhumans, dude.
PRECISELY!!! That's all I wanted. Give me 5 eps of her leading the secret Warriors or something like you suggested then I would have been cool.Another Kree monolith. I mean, they did establish that they had a few... if they were going to shift AoS into a slightly different universe.
But for me, the only show that really throws the continuity of them all being in the same universe is Luke Cage, and the second season of Jessica Jones. Daredevil and The Punisher are just vigilantes, as far as an agency like SHIELD would be concerned. There really isn't anything about either that says anyone is enhanced, since no one knows that Matt is blind. So, it's a local matter. SHIELD wouldn't care. But Luke is running around, getting filmed, right there out in the open with is strength and bullet-proof-ness. Yet he doesn't even get a visit by SHIELD? An attempt at recruitment? A warning about the Acccords? Same with Jessica. The case with Killgrave should have warrented some attention and then after someone should have shown up from SHIELD. Even if it was a completely new agent. Or Maria Hill. She's in New York too. But the last two seasons had Coulson and company too preoccupied to do it, and the Avengers are a little thin at the moment, so I don't mind those two not crossing at all.
As for Daisy as leader. When you think about where a lot of these characters were in the first season to who they are, their arcs are pretty amazing. I love how Simmons once couldn't lie to save her life, and had prepared for going undercover like it was a role in a Shakespearean play. Now, she's the type to carry a shiv and blackmailed the Director of SHIELD because she didn't trust him. And of course Fitz could barely get his parachute on out of panic in season one, yet know he'll go head to head with international terrorists if it gives him even a tiny hope of traveling across the universe to get Simmons. And the differences in them. But, their growth was shown. As was Daisy's going from Skye to Daisy, to the "vigilante" Quake. But since then, her suddenly being held up as the successor to Coulson feels rushed and out from left field. Especially when in terms of time passing on the show it hasn't been that long since she had taken off and basically forced them to have to track her down. She only got back in SHIELD's good graces because Mace figured arresting her would look bad. It was a PR move. Plus, she seems just as surprised that Phil wants her to take over. That's why it doesn't make much sense for me. If they had actually shown her leading that team of Inhumans for more than just one episode a few seasons back, we'd get a precursor to her moving up into Coulson's slot. (Also, May has been passed over too many times for my liking so I'm a bit bitter about that too. I don't care if she's a "specialist". Fury probably was at one time too.) Maybe it feels rushed becaues they thought this was definitely going to be the last season and things got moved up that were going to be next season?
I would imagine that it would look like The Flash only with a Dr Strange/Ghost Rider porthole or another colored Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. monolith.
In other words, in order to say that the TV show isn't part of the movies, they need to show the TV shows in the movies?
More like they are not part of another show until the network thinks a crossover would boost ratings, right after which they are no longer related to another show.
PRECISELY!!! That's all I wanted. Give me 5 eps of her leading the secret Warriors or something like you suggested then I would have been cool.
She still comes across as the emotional rebel then all of sudden she's leading the whole team? It looks so weird seeing her give May orders.
I actually think Fitz or Simmons would have been better choices. They understand the inner workings of Shield better and actually rose through the ranks of the organisation.