The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spiderman 2 - User Review Thread! - SPOILERS! - Part 2

[Perry9]

Cuts to the funeral.

From that point on till the end, did it feel rushed?

 

[FN Spider-man]

My review, which contains minor spoilers.

Spoiler

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is heavy-handed. One of the key themes of the movie is time, and as we see Richard Parker's watch in the first frames and hear characters talk about the time they have in life, it's quite clear this is an Orci and Kurtzman script along with numerous plot contrivances and not-so-subtle motivating speeches throughout.

The script isn't a total mess though, it carries it's weight of numerous characters with decent heft as most of the big players are intertwined to the specter of Oscorp in one way or another, keeping things coherent. In other words, it's not like Spider-Man 3. It also is able to balance it's different tones to fine effect -- from the hilarious Max Dillon scenes to the catastrophic and tragic occurrences of it's third act. It all seems to come full circle in the melancholy and gratifying hope of it's opening set-piece to the rousing return of Spidey in the final scene. By the end of it all, you feel like you've gone through an opera and rollercoaster of emotions. The film's structure and pacing are fine, things don't get too boring or humdrum in the 2nd act, even if the Peter and Gwen talks start to homogenize a bit just before the 3rd act.

It's a credit to director Marc Webb that despite all the spectacle, there's still a very human core to The Amazing Spider-Man 2, as was with the first film. Peter and Gwen's relationship feels real and the excellent chemistry between Garfield and Stone only boasts their in-and-out romance further; their relationship is the core of the movie and it's strongest success. The villains of the film feel like an odd mix at first, but work well in context later on. Jamie Foxx's Max Dillon is an extroverted, outcast and exaggerated caricature that inflates himself into the God-like, power hungry, self-serving yet persuadable Electro, who ends up teaming up with the persuasive, desperate and eventually maniacal Harry Osborn. Both of who's despondency, despair and general disliking of the ol' webhead brings them together. Foxx and DeHaan are a dynamic duo and it's a shame they don't get more to do together, because their chemistry -- which oozes with villainy -- is really something. Both actors bring an entertaining nefariousness and charm to their roles, and they're more uniquely characterized and visualized than other recent superhero baddies thanks to some one-liners and silliness.

Oh yeah, Spider-Man is in this movie, and he's great. Garfield brings more of his humor, pensiveness and dramatic ability this time around and that is a credit to Webb, as we feel like the character has progressed enormously between the shaky, unfocused teen we saw in the beginning of the first film. This film really is a showcase for Garfield's immense range as an actor, he's going to have a great and long career. As for Spidey, this is the best we've ever seen him; with a fantastic costume, amazing CGI and 3D, Spidey's swinging feels virtuous and more visceral than ever before. I had a jolt in my seat during the first swing scene.

Speaking of the fine CGI and 3D, they also bolster the already thrilling action sequences, especially the final third act battles with Electro and Green Goblin, where in which I felt my heart was about to burst out of my chest, despite the fact that I spoiled myself on it beforehand. It's a testament to Webb's direction in both making us care for the characters and crafting a damn good action setpiece, even despite a rather superfluous Plane sequence which is interwoven between the powerplant Electro-Spidey fight.

Despite my gushing, the problems I listed at the beginning are still very apparent and hurtful to the film as a whole. Most especially with the plotline of Peter's parents, story progression feels far from organic as many of Peter's occurrences upon new info are less from solving clues and more from happy coincidences. There's also plenty of spoon-fed exposition (particularly within the albeit creepy appearance from Norman Osborn) and magical blood plot-lines to tick off the Orci-Kurtzman checklist.

The first film had some interesting directorial choices that never fully felt explored, but in this film, it seems like Webb is much more confident in the material now that the origin is out of the way. There's a greater sense of individuality to this new reboot series than the first film compared to the Raimi series now, with things like Spidey's dynamic sense, the comic-book style tone; which is filled with one-liners, intentionally cheesy character bits and Dr. Kafka (see for yourself) but also tragedy and weight that keeps things in reality. The film is an eclectic mix, and this is represented by Hans Zimmer's contemporary and electronically-colored score that ranges from traditional orchestral tunes, to an epic electronic-dubstep mix for Electro to guitar tuned and bass-blasting beats for the Rhino.

Overall, The Amazing Spider-Man 2 works well, it's loaded with strong work from it's main players, great action scenes, humor, a wonderful core relationship between it's two leads and more confident direction. It's the film's ambitious script that proves to be it's biggest falter, with plenty of obvious mishaps despite some interesting thematic and character ideas such as time, self-serving along with some interesting moralizing.

Great review there T.I.A.

 

[Airnick]

My review, which contains minor spoilers.

Spoiler

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is heavy-handed. One of the key themes of the movie is time, and as we see Richard Parker's watch in the first frames and hear characters talk about the time they have in life, it's quite clear this is an Orci and Kurtzman script along with numerous plot contrivances and not-so-subtle motivating speeches throughout.

The script isn't a total mess though, it carries it's weight of numerous characters with decent heft as most of the big players are intertwined to the specter of Oscorp in one way or another, keeping things coherent. In other words, it's not like Spider-Man 3. It also is able to balance it's different tones to fine effect -- from the hilarious Max Dillon scenes to the catastrophic and tragic occurrences of it's third act. It all seems to come full circle in the melancholy and gratifying hope of it's opening set-piece to the rousing return of Spidey in the final scene. By the end of it all, you feel like you've gone through an opera and rollercoaster of emotions. The film's structure and pacing are fine, things don't get too boring or humdrum in the 2nd act, even if the Peter and Gwen talks start to homogenize a bit just before the 3rd act.

It's a credit to director Marc Webb that despite all the spectacle, there's still a very human core to The Amazing Spider-Man 2, as was with the first film. Peter and Gwen's relationship feels real and the excellent chemistry between Garfield and Stone only boasts their in-and-out romance further; their relationship is the core of the movie and it's strongest success. The villains of the film feel like an odd mix at first, but work well in context later on. Jamie Foxx's Max Dillon is an extroverted, outcast and exaggerated caricature that inflates himself into the God-like, power hungry, self-serving yet persuadable Electro, who ends up teaming up with the persuasive, desperate and eventually maniacal Harry Osborn. Both of who's despondency, despair and general disliking of the ol' webhead brings them together. Foxx and DeHaan are a dynamic duo and it's a shame they don't get more to do together, because their chemistry -- which oozes with villainy -- is really something. Both actors bring an entertaining nefariousness and charm to their roles, and they're more uniquely characterized and visualized than other recent superhero baddies thanks to some one-liners and silliness.

Oh yeah, Spider-Man is in this movie, and he's great. Garfield brings more of his humor, pensiveness and dramatic ability this time around and that is a credit to Webb, as we feel like the character has progressed enormously between the shaky, unfocused teen we saw in the beginning of the first film. This film really is a showcase for Garfield's immense range as an actor, he's going to have a great and long career. As for Spidey, this is the best we've ever seen him; with a fantastic costume, amazing CGI and 3D, Spidey's swinging feels virtuous and more visceral than ever before. I had a jolt in my seat during the first swing scene.

Speaking of the fine CGI and 3D, they also bolster the already thrilling action sequences, especially the final third act battles with Electro and Green Goblin, where in which I felt my heart was about to burst out of my chest, despite the fact that I spoiled myself on it beforehand. It's a testament to Webb's direction in both making us care for the characters and crafting a damn good action setpiece, even despite a rather superfluous Plane sequence which is interwoven between the powerplant Electro-Spidey fight.

Despite my gushing, the problems I listed at the beginning are still very apparent and hurtful to the film as a whole. Most especially with the plotline of Peter's parents, story progression feels far from organic as many of Peter's occurrences upon new info are less from solving clues and more from happy coincidences. There's also plenty of spoon-fed exposition (particularly within the albeit creepy appearance from Norman Osborn) and magical blood plot-lines to tick off the Orci-Kurtzman checklist.

The first film had some interesting directorial choices that never fully felt explored, but in this film, it seems like Webb is much more confident in the material now that the origin is out of the way. There's a greater sense of individuality to this new reboot series than the first film compared to the Raimi series now, with things like Spidey's dynamic sense, the comic-book style tone; which is filled with one-liners, intentionally cheesy character bits and Dr. Kafka (see for yourself) but also tragedy and weight that keeps things in reality. The film is an eclectic mix, and this is represented by Hans Zimmer's contemporary and electronically-colored score that ranges from traditional orchestral tunes, to an epic electronic-dubstep mix for Electro to guitar tuned and bass-blasting beats for the Rhino.

Overall, The Amazing Spider-Man 2 works well, it's loaded with strong work from it's main players, great action scenes, humor, a wonderful core relationship between it's two leads and more confident direction. It's the film's ambitious script that proves to be it's biggest falter, with plenty of obvious mishaps despite some interesting thematic and character ideas such as time, self-serving along with some interesting moralizing.

Very good review.

 

[ever tim]

So can someone do a more detailed wikipedia-esque summary

I will. Gimme 10.

 

[zipzip]

Solid Review TheIrishAvenger so do you feel Sony needs to ditch kurtzman and orci asap

 

[TheSpectacular]

I will. Gimme 10.

I'll give you 20

 

[zipzip]

edit

 

[Perry9]

Welp um something really bad just happened for fox

What?

 

[FN Spider-man]

Say what?

 

[zipzip]

edit

 

[LizardMan07]

T.I.A writes better reviews than most critics!

 

[chaseter]

https://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movi...-scene-features-----the--x-men-192429195.html

 

[Em Dee]

http://www.thewrap.com/bryan-singer-accused-sexually-abusing-underage-boy

Wow that could seriously screw the BO fo DOFP. Anyways back to TASM 2

 

[Alt-Josh]

Very good review IrishAvenger. Fair, articulate, and direct.

 

[ever tim]

Part 1:

Spoiler

The film begins with a flashback of Richard in his lab at Oscorp destroying his work. He kills various cross-species spiders in glass cases. He then leaves Oscorp, ransacks his own home (going into the basement to record something for his Roosevelt project) and then drops Peter off at Ben and May's as seen in the first film. We then see Richard and May on a plane, Richard is talking to May about how their lives are never going to be the same. Richard is uploading his work to a server elsewhere via laptop, a man then walks out of the plane cabin with blood on his hands. Richard notices this and asks if he can speak to the pilot, this results in the man pulling a gun and shooting May. Richard gets the gun off of the man and shoots a window, causing the plane to fall apart. The plane dives to the ground as Richard watches May. Cut to black...

Spider-Man is skydiving, in pursuit of Aleksei and his thugs who are trying to steal an Oscorp truck that is carrying plutonium. Aleksei knocks a car out of the way, Spider-Man swings to save the person that the car is going to hit... it's Max Dillon. Spider-Man tells Max that he's his eyes and ears and then returns to pursue Aleksei. In the middle of the chase, Gwen rings Peter, telling him that he's going to be late for graduation. Mid-call, Peter sees Captain Stacy in a police cruiser, though this is just a hallucination. Peter tells her he's on his way, manages to stop Aleksei and races to graduation, even though Gwen has already given her graduation speech.

Peter sees Captain Stacy again at graduation but shakes it off. Gwen invites Peter to dinner, Peter realises that he made a huge mistake by going again Captain Stacy's wishes and is clearly distraught by this, resulting in Peter breaking up with Gwen. Though Gwen asserts that she breaks up with him. Some time after the breakup, Peter watches Gwen from afar as Spider-Man.

Harry Osborn is brought to Osborn manor, where he faces a dying Norman. Norman tells him that the disease that he is suffering from is hereditary and that Harry will soon share the same fate. Norman dies shortly after, resulting in Harry taking Norman's place as head of Oscorp, much to Donald Menken's disapproval. At a board meeting, Harry tells everybody on that table now works for Norman's assistant, Felicia, as she works for him. Peter shows up at Osborn manor to meet and comfort Harry about Norman's death. The two joke around and later hang out.

Later on, Max is stuck in Oscorp on his birthday, Smythe allows everybody to leave apart from Max, he asks Max to fix an electrical fault. Max can't get in touch with somebody who's supposed to assist him and opts to do it himself. He electrocutes himself and falls into a tank full of eels. We now see Max in a morgue in a concrete cocoon of sorts, he jerks around and falls, the cocoon breaks up and his glowing skin shines through.

 

[kbrooksgohan]

Cuts to the funeral.

You keep forgetting about the spoiler tags in a lot of threads. You did the same thing in the "Endings" thread.

 

[kbrooksgohan]

Part 1:

The film begins with a flashback of Richard in his lab at Oscorp destroying his work. He kills various cross-species spiders in glass cases. He then leaves Oscorp, ransacks his own home (going into the basement to record something for his Roosevelt project) and then drops Peter off at Ben and May's as seen in the first film. We then see Richard and May on a plane, Richard is talking to May about how their lives are never going to be the same. Richard is uploading his work to a server elsewhere via laptop, a man then walks out of the plane cabin with blood on his hands. Richard notices this and asks if he can speak to the pilot, this results in the man pulling a gun and shooting May. Richard gets the gun off of the man and shoots a window, causing the plane to fall apart. The plane dives to the ground as Richard watches May. Cut to black...

Spider-Man is skydiving, in pursuit of Aleksei and his thugs who are trying to steal an Oscorp truck that is carrying plutonium. Aleksei knocks a car out of the way, Spider-Man swings to save the person that the car is going to hit... it's Max Dillon. Spider-Man tells Max that he's his eyes and ears and then returns to pursue Aleksei. In the middle of the chase, Gwen rings Peter, telling him that he's going to be late for graduation. Mid-call, Peter sees Captain Stacy in a police cruiser, though this is just a hallucination. Peter tells her he's on his way, manages to stop Aleksei and races to graduation, even though Gwen has already given her graduation speech.

Peter sees Captain Stacy again at graduation but shakes it off. Gwen invites Peter to dinner, Peter realises that he made a huge mistake by going again Captain Stacy's wishes and is clearly distraught by this, resulting in Peter breaking up with Gwen. Though Gwen asserts that she breaks up with him. Some time after the breakup, Peter watches Gwen from afar as Spider-Man.

Harry Osborn is brought to Osborn manor, where he faces a dying Norman. Norman tells him that the disease that he is suffering from is hereditary and that Harry will soon share the same fate. Norman dies shortly after, resulting in Harry taking Norman's place as head of Oscorp, much to Donald Menken's disapproval. At a board meeting, Harry tells everybody on that table now works for Norman's assistant, Felicia, as she works for him.

Later on, Max is stuck in Oscorp on his birthday, Smythe allows everybody to leave apart from Max, he asks Max to fix an electrical fault. Max can't get in touch with somebody who's supposed to assist him and opts to do it himself. He electrocutes himself and falls into a tank full of eels. We now see Max in a morgue in a concrete cocoon of sorts, he jerks around and falls, the cocoon breaks up and his glowing skin shines through.

Spoilers are tags are A RULE IN THIS THREAD. It's on the first post. Even though it can have spoilers in the thread itself. People can still post reviews WITHOUT spoilers.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

My review, which contains minor spoilers.

Spoiler

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is heavy-handed. One of the key themes of the movie is time, and as we see Richard Parker's watch in the first frames and hear characters talk about the time they have in life, it's quite clear this is an Orci and Kurtzman script along with numerous plot contrivances and not-so-subtle motivating speeches throughout.

The script isn't a total mess though, it carries it's weight of numerous characters with decent heft as most of the big players are intertwined to the specter of Oscorp in one way or another, keeping things coherent. In other words, it's not like Spider-Man 3. It also is able to balance it's different tones to fine effect -- from the hilarious Max Dillon scenes to the catastrophic and tragic occurrences of it's third act. It all seems to come full circle in the melancholy and gratifying hope of it's opening set-piece to the rousing return of Spidey in the final scene. By the end of it all, you feel like you've gone through an opera and rollercoaster of emotions. The film's structure and pacing are fine, things don't get too boring or humdrum in the 2nd act, even if the Peter and Gwen talks start to homogenize a bit just before the 3rd act.

It's a credit to director Marc Webb that despite all the spectacle, there's still a very human core to The Amazing Spider-Man 2, as was with the first film. Peter and Gwen's relationship feels real and the excellent chemistry between Garfield and Stone only boasts their in-and-out romance further; their relationship is the core of the movie and it's strongest success. The villains of the film feel like an odd mix at first, but work well in context later on. Jamie Foxx's Max Dillon is an extroverted, outcast and exaggerated caricature that inflates himself into the God-like, power hungry, self-serving yet persuadable Electro, who ends up teaming up with the persuasive, desperate and eventually maniacal Harry Osborn. Both of who's despondency, despair and general disliking of the ol' webhead brings them together. Foxx and DeHaan are a dynamic duo and it's a shame they don't get more to do together, because their chemistry -- which oozes with villainy -- is really something. Both actors bring an entertaining nefariousness and charm to their roles, and they're more uniquely characterized and visualized than other recent superhero baddies thanks to some one-liners and silliness.

Oh yeah, Spider-Man is in this movie, and he's great. Garfield brings more of his humor, pensiveness and dramatic ability this time around and that is a credit to Webb, as we feel like the character has progressed enormously between the shaky, unfocused teen we saw in the beginning of the first film. This film really is a showcase for Garfield's immense range as an actor, he's going to have a great and long career. As for Spidey, this is the best we've ever seen him; with a fantastic costume, amazing CGI and 3D, Spidey's swinging feels virtuous and more visceral than ever before. I had a jolt in my seat during the first swing scene.

Speaking of the fine CGI and 3D, they also bolster the already thrilling action sequences, especially the final third act battles with Electro and Green Goblin, where in which I felt my heart was about to burst out of my chest, despite the fact that I spoiled myself on it beforehand. It's a testament to Webb's direction in both making us care for the characters and crafting a damn good action setpiece, even despite a rather superfluous Plane sequence which is interwoven between the powerplant Electro-Spidey fight.

Despite my gushing, the problems I listed at the beginning are still very apparent and hurtful to the film as a whole. Most especially with the plotline of Peter's parents, story progression feels far from organic as many of Peter's occurrences upon new info are less from solving clues and more from happy coincidences. There's also plenty of spoon-fed exposition (particularly within the albeit creepy appearance from Norman Osborn) and magical blood plot-lines to tick off the Orci-Kurtzman checklist.

The first film had some interesting directorial choices that never fully felt explored, but in this film, it seems like Webb is much more confident in the material now that the origin is out of the way. There's a greater sense of individuality to this new reboot series than the first film compared to the Raimi series now, with things like Spidey's dynamic sense, the comic-book style tone; which is filled with one-liners, intentionally cheesy character bits and Dr. Kafka (see for yourself) but also tragedy and weight that keeps things in reality. The film is an eclectic mix, and this is represented by Hans Zimmer's contemporary and electronically-colored score that ranges from traditional orchestral tunes, to an epic electronic-dubstep mix for Electro to guitar tuned and bass-blasting beats for the Rhino.

Overall, The Amazing Spider-Man 2 works well, it's loaded with strong work from it's main players, great action scenes, humor, a wonderful core relationship between it's two leads and more confident direction. It's the film's ambitious script that proves to be it's biggest falter, with plenty of obvious mishaps despite some interesting thematic and character ideas such as time, self-serving along with some interesting moralizing.

Its a lot better to see reviews from true spidey fans,btw great review

 

[Picard Sisko]

My review, which contains minor spoilers.

Spoiler

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is heavy-handed. One of the key themes of the movie is time, and as we see Richard Parker's watch in the first frames and hear characters talk about the time they have in life, it's quite clear this is an Orci and Kurtzman script along with numerous plot contrivances and not-so-subtle motivating speeches throughout.

The script isn't a total mess though, it carries it's weight of numerous characters with decent heft as most of the big players are intertwined to the specter of Oscorp in one way or another, keeping things coherent. In other words, it's not like Spider-Man 3. It also is able to balance it's different tones to fine effect -- from the hilarious Max Dillon scenes to the catastrophic and tragic occurrences of it's third act. It all seems to come full circle in the melancholy and gratifying hope of it's opening set-piece to the rousing return of Spidey in the final scene. By the end of it all, you feel like you've gone through an opera and rollercoaster of emotions. The film's structure and pacing are fine, things don't get too boring or humdrum in the 2nd act, even if the Peter and Gwen talks start to homogenize a bit just before the 3rd act.

It's a credit to director Marc Webb that despite all the spectacle, there's still a very human core to The Amazing Spider-Man 2, as was with the first film. Peter and Gwen's relationship feels real and the excellent chemistry between Garfield and Stone only boasts their in-and-out romance further; their relationship is the core of the movie and it's strongest success. The villains of the film feel like an odd mix at first, but work well in context later on. Jamie Foxx's Max Dillon is an extroverted, outcast and exaggerated caricature that inflates himself into the God-like, power hungry, self-serving yet persuadable Electro, who ends up teaming up with the persuasive, desperate and eventually maniacal Harry Osborn. Both of who's despondency, despair and general disliking of the ol' webhead brings them together. Foxx and DeHaan are a dynamic duo and it's a shame they don't get more to do together, because their chemistry -- which oozes with villainy -- is really something. Both actors bring an entertaining nefariousness and charm to their roles, and they're more uniquely characterized and visualized than other recent superhero baddies thanks to some one-liners and silliness.

Oh yeah, Spider-Man is in this movie, and he's great. Garfield brings more of his humor, pensiveness and dramatic ability this time around and that is a credit to Webb, as we feel like the character has progressed enormously between the shaky, unfocused teen we saw in the beginning of the first film. This film really is a showcase for Garfield's immense range as an actor, he's going to have a great and long career. As for Spidey, this is the best we've ever seen him; with a fantastic costume, amazing CGI and 3D, Spidey's swinging feels virtuous and more visceral than ever before. I had a jolt in my seat during the first swing scene.

Speaking of the fine CGI and 3D, they also bolster the already thrilling action sequences, especially the final third act battles with Electro and Green Goblin, where in which I felt my heart was about to burst out of my chest, despite the fact that I spoiled myself on it beforehand. It's a testament to Webb's direction in both making us care for the characters and crafting a damn good action setpiece, even despite a rather superfluous Plane sequence which is interwoven between the powerplant Electro-Spidey fight.

Despite my gushing, the problems I listed at the beginning are still very apparent and hurtful to the film as a whole. Most especially with the plotline of Peter's parents, story progression feels far from organic as many of Peter's occurrences upon new info are less from solving clues and more from happy coincidences. There's also plenty of spoon-fed exposition (particularly within the albeit creepy appearance from Norman Osborn) and magical blood plot-lines to tick off the Orci-Kurtzman checklist.

The first film had some interesting directorial choices that never fully felt explored, but in this film, it seems like Webb is much more confident in the material now that the origin is out of the way. There's a greater sense of individuality to this new reboot series than the first film compared to the Raimi series now, with things like Spidey's dynamic sense, the comic-book style tone; which is filled with one-liners, intentionally cheesy character bits and Dr. Kafka (see for yourself) but also tragedy and weight that keeps things in reality. The film is an eclectic mix, and this is represented by Hans Zimmer's contemporary and electronically-colored score that ranges from traditional orchestral tunes, to an epic electronic-dubstep mix for Electro to guitar tuned and bass-blasting beats for the Rhino.

Overall, The Amazing Spider-Man 2 works well, it's loaded with strong work from it's main players, great action scenes, humor, a wonderful core relationship between it's two leads and more confident direction. It's the film's ambitious script that proves to be it's biggest falter, with plenty of obvious mishaps despite some interesting thematic and character ideas such as time, self-serving along with some interesting moralizing.

Very good review, TIA. May I ask what you rate this film on a scale of 1-10? Also how does it compare to TASM1?

 

[kbrooksgohan]

TEEKAY'S POST

"Since the film is coming out in a few weeks, we can all post our reviews here. I'll post mine towards the release of the film.t: Have fun.

SPOILERS must be tagged!"

Just because it's a review thread doesn't mean that spoilers should be not in tags. I'm sure there are others that might come in here to see the REACTIONS and ratings and bypass the spoilers and tags. Plus remember the general thread is gone so......BE CONSIDERATE PLEASE.

 

[PeterBenParker]

75%

 

[Em Dee]

Is there a final swing before the rhino battle?

 

[kbrooksgohan]

75%

I'm sure it will go up. 21 good 7 bad and the film still has to release in the states so....

 

[Picard Sisko]

Well it can go either way, but I think it's going to land pretty close to what it is now (roughly around 75%).

 

[ever tim]

Part 2:

Spoiler

Max takes out a hoodie from a bin in the morgue and makes his way to Times Square, as he is thirsting for electricity. Max can see electricity glowing through walls and bags. From cables underground to phones in people's bags. Max attempts to drain all of Times Square's power from an underground generator but is stopped by a police officer. Meanwhile, Gwen and Peter have their first meeting in quite some time. Peter tells Gwen that he has been watching her for quite some time. Gwen tells him that she may possibly be going to England, to attend Oxford, before the two can continue, Peter's spider sense goes off and he leaves to go to Times Square. Spider-Man shows up and confronts Max, telling him to calm down so they can talk elsewhere. Max asks Spider-Man if he remembers him, Spider-Man barely does. A hidden sniper shoots Max and sets Max off on a rampage. Spider-Man subdues Max by dousing him with water from a fire hose.

Electro is now in Ravencroft, being experimented on by Dr. Kafka. Electro tells Kafka that soon everyone in the city will know how it feels to live in his world and calls himself Electro. We now move on to Peter, Peter is in his room looking at his now destroyed webshooter. Peter attempts to fix this in the garage before getting a call from Harry, who lets him know that he is dying. Peter goes over to Harry's, Harry tells him that he knows that Peter can get Spider-Man to meet Harry so that Spider-Man can give him his blood. Harry has worked out that Spider-Man is somehow cross-species and can self-heal. Peter refuses and leaves.

Peter is now at home, he finds himself coming back to his father's briefcase over and over again. He then decides to investigate his parents' death further, sprawling out a wall full of newspaper clippings, a map and thread, identifying ties between stories and whatnot. He then confronts May about the truth about his parents, May tells him that Richard and May was a suspected traitor and that he only cared about the money. She tells him that even she found it hard to believe as he would get the D train everyday like anybody else. Later on, in a fit of rage, Peter tears down clippings from his wall and smashes a calculator from Richard's briefcase on the wall, it contains a number of coins/tokens, all identical. Peter investigates Roosevelt further online and ties it in with the D train, working out that Roosevelt had his own secret subway system. Peter ventures out to find this from online research, inserts a token from Richard's case into a booth, resulting in an underground train carriage to rise from the ground. The carriage contains Richard's work. A computer in the train automatically plays a video recording of Richard. Richard speaks about how Norman planned to sell his work to a foreign military buyer and when he refused, falsified information to paint Richard and May as traitors and frauds. Richard goes on to state that he anticipated something like this and as a result, used his own DNA in his cross-species work. So that only his bloodline could correctly integrate with cross-species work, acting as the missing jigsaw piece.