The Joker Thread - Part 1

[Art Vandelay]

He looks like the guy on the page, he has experience in playing an emotionally volatile and morally unscrupulous sociopath?

It's not that he couldn't be a good Joker, it's the idea that he's a "way more natural fit" than Hader. Too often people suggest an actor be perfect for a role just because they once played a similar character, as if Howerton is going to be playing Dennis playing the Joker.

 

[Eddie Dean]

He’s a more natural fit because he’s played a character with traits that are similar to The Joker. That’s what natural fit means.

 

[Captain Tired]

It's not that he couldn't be a good Joker, it's the idea that he's a "way more natural fit" than Hader. Too often people suggest an actor be perfect for a role just because they once played a similar character, as if Howerton is going to be playing Dennis playing the Joker.

Eh, I'm not personally advocating for Howerton or Hader as the Joker anyways. Especially not Howerton, as it's too obvious and dull a casting. I just think the reason for his name being mentioned was equally as obvious. So I gave you the reasoning.

 

[AndyTrevino]

Don’t like his voice for it.

I don't like his look for the role

 

[Eddie Dean]

 

[Captain Tired]

I don't like his look for the role

I kinda do. His eyes have that cold, unfeeling look to them. That's the greatest possible compliment I can pay the main in this context. He might even be a good conduit for that TDKR inspired Joker you so covet.

 

[Eddie Dean]

No, Pine has beautiful baby blue eyes full of life and mischief....

sigh...

 

[Captain Tired]

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[Eddie Dean]

Joker needs his hat back

 

[AndyTrevino]

I kinda do. His eyes have that cold, unfeeling look to them. That's the greatest possible compliment I can pay the main in this context. He might even be a good conduit for that TDKR inspired Joker you so covet.

I don't really think he has that slightly androgynous quality TDKR Joker has though

 

[Schlosser85]

I don't see anything Joker from Pine. Now, I hadn't seen anything "Joker" from Heath Ledger beforehand either, but just for speculation, I don't see it.

 

[Captain Tired]

I don't really think he has that slightly androgynous quality TDKR Joker has though

It is really fair to say the TDKR Joker has an androgynous look to him? Beyond the lipstick, he always looked pretty butch and masculine to me. That's not taking into account the mannerisms, which can obviously be affected by, y'know, an actor lol.

I don't know why I'm suddenly batting for Pine now.

 

[AndyTrevino]

It is really fair to say the TDKR Joker has an androgynous look to him? Beyond the lipstick, he always looked pretty butch and masculine to me. That's not taking into account the mannerisms, which can obviously be affected by, y'know, an actor lol.

I don't know why I'm suddenly batting for Pine now.

I feel like 10-15 years from now they can get Bill Hader to play TDKR Joker. Or right now they could get Jude Law, Paul Bettany, or Guy Pearce.

 

[AndyTrevino]

I don't see anything Joker from Pine. Now, I hadn't seen anything "Joker" from Heath Ledger beforehand either, but just for speculation, I don't see it.

He's more Two-Face or Hal Jordan to me.

 

[Eddie Dean]

He's more Two-Face or Hal Jordan to me.

Boring!

Pine has the Brad Pitt problem. Everyone wants him to play straight roles because he’s so handsome, but he’s clearly made for wacky supporting roles.

Although he can do straight laced hero very well

 

[Captain Tired]

Pine as the Joker gives me Homelander vibes.

 

[Eddie Dean]

I mean, Homelander is basically Psycho Kirk.

Mirror Universe Kirk?

 

[AndyTrevino]

Pine as the Joker gives me Homelander vibes.

He seems to me like a better fit for THAT character than The Joker

 

[shauner111]

That’s cool, actors change their voices all the time.

Not Pine.

 

[Eddie Dean]

And that’s based on...

 

[Eddie Dean]

He did accents in Hell or High Water and Smoking Aces. Probably some others I can’t think of.

 

[shauner111]

Pine doesn’t have cold eyes. He’s never NOT sounded like Chris Pine. Oh hi Steve Trevor, why you dressin up like a clown bud? Thought I recognized you!

I’d rather they cast an unknown who can use the opportunity. Unless your initials are JG of course.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Maybe you need to see him in more stuff buddy.

Not his fault Kirk and Steve Trevor are the exact same character.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Hmmm... can’t change his voice?

 

[AndyTrevino]

Pine doesn’t have cold eyes. He’s never NOT sounded like Chris Pine. Oh hi Steve Trevor, why you dressin up like a clown bud? Thought I recognized you!

I’d rather they cast an unknown who can use the opportunity. Unless your initials are JG of course.

And/Or WD and BH.