Makes you wonder if "respecting" something is more important than doing good with the material.
If only people who "respect" something work on it, we probably wouldnt have much to begin with.
Personally i do think Snyder likes comics, the ideas and visuals they present...but he doesnt care much for staying "true" to characters or so.
On this he is like burton, schumacher or Nolan...they all took the base and did their own thing with it.
Every comic book writer tries his own twist on these characters, thats not a crime or so.
Snyder just wants it to be more "Edgy" and wants to be so much deeper and symbolic...which would be neat, but he just doesnt have the talent.
All his movies lack real depth because he has not enough patience for that kind of stuff.
He is all about big scenes, symbolism, which isnt the worst at all.
But at the same time he lacks the talent to make characters feel truly "natural".
I dont find this idea the worst, because i absolutly hate this "grounded" and "realistic" idea that many think comic book movies need to be.
But to me snyders visuals and style isnt there, not when i look at how much fun i had with all the DC movies after JL that give me this comic feeling but also have characters that feel natural to me.
Probably Snyders best trick is to convince people he is a deeper storyteller than he actually is.
The problem comes when people either blindly hate what he does or this almost deranged worshipping of every breath he takes.
Probably Snyders best trick is to convince people he is a deeper storyteller than he actually is.
What about when and after he decided to execute the alternate universe Zod?
But the law and especially the authorities are not always just and so he shouldn't always be subservient to them, I don't think it's against the character to have him feel that.
Righty man. Telling me to get out in the real world. No need for those comments please. We're in the same boat. Just relax. Take a breath. Its all cool.
People base box office success on their own calculations but if Snyder was failing as much as people make him out to be on a business side of things then WB wouldn't keep giving him boad loads of money to keep making films. Now after Justice League failed which was Whedons and WB fault anyway he's now been givin more money to finish his Justice League. He must be doing something right to have movie after movie after movie from the same studio. Think about it.
Batman with enough planning can destroy Superman anytime of the week but Superman would definitely destroy Batman without Batman planning or having any gadgets when just one on one with the flick of his finger.
I find that Snyder's Superman has a realistic response to the world with his emotions and actions.
I love Donner's Superman too but Donner's and Snyder's Supermans both give me Something different. I can enjoy both but in different ways.
Yes you do need to listen to Zac because only he can say if he respects Comics or not. Not anybody else based on their opinions. Just him. Not based on Box office or reviews. That's putting words in his mouth.
Also with directors passing on projects has nothing to with Snyder and the final outcome. Man Of Steel just wasnt for them. It happens all the time. You say he probably accepted the gig to save his career. Yeah thats really reaching dude.
Look we are the opposite.
I know you hate Snyder, most of his films and what he did to Superman.
Just like I like Snyder, most his films and enjoyed what he's done with Superman.
As for Batman being a mary sue is far from the truth. Batman fails all the time.
Sorry but box office and reviews are not an indicator of a great or even good film.
Not every film needs Marvel level box office either.
I don't care who respects what as long as I get a good movie out of it. I thought Man of Steel was that.
MoS is good to me (although I dislike some details) and, now it's clear (at least to me) it was more a... a Snyderverse and not a DC Extended Universe, I'm more comfortable to appreciate BvS (again, but some details too) and to hope something good for the so-called Snyder Cut.I feel like Man of Steel is a decent enough movie. I could've accepted it more if they went in a more positive, progression direction. Instead, they doubled down on the film's flaws and made it worse. Much worse.
MoS is good to me (although I dislike some details) and, now it's clear (at least to me) it was more a... a Snyderverse and not a DC Extended Universe, I'm more comfortable to appreciate BvS (again, but some details too) and to hope something good for the so-called Snyder Cut.
But can you exemplify what do you mean by a more positive and progression direction? I ask that because I maybe agree with you.
Yes. This.I think had they used Man of Steel as a basepoint for having Clark struggle with his place in the world but ultimately accept his role as a hero by the end instead of doubling down with a depressed, mopey and unhappy Superman in the next movie who is constantly criticized and torn down, it could've been decent starting off-point. Clarke struggled, put on the cape, defended Earth and accepts his role as the hero, for better or worse. He made mistakes with Zod but he will learn from them and get better. Instead they focused on the things people didn't like. They accentuated the negatives rather than the positives.
FFS, you have the government putting on a publicity stunt show trial with Superman and Congress when the government already knows Superman wasn't responsible for what happened in Africa and knows Luthor was responsible and has evidence as such.
Yes. This.
And I also think they should have shot a Man of Steel 2 before BvS because I didn't really feel that god-like persona of Superman towards the people was genuine.
Yeah. It was like BvS was a film took its continuity from comics or from an old cinematic universe. Robin was last seen in late 90s and then you have Bruce pondering on an empty uniform.I would've done both Man of Steel 2 and a solo Batman movie before Batman v Superman. And Batman v Superman wouldn't have had Wonder Woman other than a cameo and no Doomsday.
Batman v Superman basically would've been a loose adaptation of Dini/Timm's World's Finest, NOT f'n Dark Knight Returns and Death of Superman.
Let us get to know and really start believing in these characters and like them before killing them off and just stuffing them all together.
Avengers was the SIXTH movie of the MCU.
Dini/Timm’s World’s Finest was excellent. I love the scene where Clark realizes that Batman knows that he is SupermanI would've done both Man of Steel 2 and a solo Batman movie before Batman v Superman. And Batman v Superman wouldn't have had Wonder Woman other than a cameo and no Doomsday.
Batman v Superman basically would've been a loose adaptation of Dini/Timm's World's Finest, NOT f'n Dark Knight Returns and Death of Superman.
Let us get to know and really start believing in these characters and like them before killing them off and just stuffing them all together.
Avengers was the SIXTH movie of the MCU.
I would've done both Man of Steel 2 and a solo Batman movie before Batman v Superman. And Batman v Superman wouldn't have had Wonder Woman other than a cameo and no Doomsday.
Batman v Superman basically would've been a loose adaptation of Dini/Timm's World's Finest, NOT f'n Dark Knight Returns and Death of Superman.
Let us get to know and really start believing in these characters and like them before killing them off and just stuffing them all together.
Avengers was the SIXTH movie of the MCU.
They did TDKR in his FIRST MOVIE in this continuity. Think about that.They did Death of Superman in the SECOND MOVIE. Just think about that for a second.
I don't like it.They did TDKR in his FIRST MOVIE in this continuity. Think about that.
They did Death of Superman in the SECOND MOVIE. Just think about that for a second.
Nor should you. Nor should anyone with a brain want to create an entire universe around TDKR, which works only as a one off stand alone story. Even Frank Miller proved that an expanded universe based on the story leads to a dumpster fire. (see TDKSA, Master Race, All Star Batman and Robin, and The Golden Child)I don't like it.
Iron Man died in what...his tenth movie (counting cameos)?
I think there is a lesson there.