Jessica Jones Jessica Jones FULL SEASON ONE Discussion Thread (BEWARE, SPOILERS GALORE!)

[Random490]

After all the build up of the risks of that last megadose, I think it was a real missed opportunity to not have Killgrave turn purple for the last episode.

Especially when he got killed off anyway.

Yeah that surprised me, he really only has two scenes after that. Whether it would have been done subtlety or just have the purple veins always present, it seems almost like they planned to do that but backed down.

 

[zenith16]

Originally Posted by redhawk23
After all the build up of the risks of that last megadose, I think it was a real missed opportunity to not have Killgrave turn purple for the last episode.

Originally Posted by Nathan
Especially when he got killed off anyway.

Yeah that surprised me, he really only has two scenes after that. Whether it would have been done subtlety or just have the purple veins always present, it seems almost like they planned to do that but backed down.

lol Here's the weird sneaky catch you three to the show runner of the show they already showed him as purple with in the show via lighting as this video of show showcase below with tennant entering the room where h kill his father.
with in the show.

To the show runner's of jessica jones they already show cased him as purple. it just wasn't in the way you hoped

 

[Gamma Goliath]

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[kedrell]

I really can't decide which I prefer, this or Daredevil. IMO they're the top 2 comic book/superhero TV shows ever made...by miles. After that then comes iZombie and Agent Carter then Agents of Shield and Flash.

 

[Nathan]

Overall I still prefer Daredevil, but Jessica Jones is still a pretty good show. They're just completely different. And that's a good thing.

 

[Deserana]

Daredevil got better and better, IMO Jessica Jones peaked in episodes 5-10 and I was a little underwhelmed with the last 3. By that I mean 8/10 instead of 10 so still awesome. I loved Killgrave and was actually quite annoyed they killed him off, whilst it was the clear way to go I always like it when the door is left open for future use. I'd rather him be just defeated than outright killed. I thought they were gonna end it with him and Trish for a brief moment with next season picking up from that.

The rest of the season though was pretty much awesome. The acting (aside from Robyn) was all spot on, storylines and plot twists all kept me on edge.

I'd still place Daredevil a little higher purely because I found myself thinking things like "why are you holding this information from this person?" Or "why are you doing this instead of that?" more in this. Also the fight scenes were far superior in Daredevil but superheroics is a lot harder to do on a TV budget I presume. I also kept questioning the point of some side characters like Jeri and some others a lot more than Daredevil in which every character felt necessary.

What I really did appreciate more about Jessica Jones was that from beginning to end it felt like one story, well told unlike Daredevil which could steer off into villain of the week.

But the show is still a solid 8/9 out of 10 it was dark, gory and constantly interesting. I don't need all my villains to be humanised like Fisk sometimes I just like them creepy and evil and this was that. Jessica Jones herself was also a great character played very well by Krysten Ritter and I'll eagerly be awaiting a second season.

 

[cph9fa]

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[kedrell]

Regarding Kilgrave dying, in the comics he has a bit of a healing ability that's saved him before. Now while it would be very contrived to just bring him back and use that as excuse out of the blue on the TV show(especially since it had been well established that he needed kidney transplants after the bus accident), there is an X factor which could account for him healing and thus surviving: the fact that he did all those extra experiments on himself in order to increase his abilities with the aid of his father. I know I could buy that 40% it'll make him stronger/60% it'll kill him(which it didn't) thing in the last episode or 2 as a good enough explanation for his survival.

 

[zenith16]

well I think they killed kill Grave off is cause I don't think they planned a season two for Jessica series unlike Daredevil they may consider it now. but she and the other shows were just supposed to gather in the defenders and that's it.

now they can alway use the healing factor par or they can say he made her "see her self killing him" so he could escape. and there's isn't a body of his in the police morgue. and he could show up as a team villain in the defenders it's still up to the show runners one thing for sure as a crime lord he ill give fisk a run for his money.

 

[Random490]

well I think they killed kill Grave off is cause I don't think they planned a season two for Jessica series unlike Daredevil they may consider it now. but she and the other shows were just supposed to gather in the defenders and that's it.

now they can alway use the healing factor par or they can say he made her "see her self killing him" so he could escape. and there's isn't a body of his in the police morg. and he could show up as a team villain in the defenders it's still up to the show runners one thing for sure as a crime lord he ill give fisk a run for his money.

No, they're planning a doing a season 2, that was the whole point of IGH, setting up the next season. They just explored everything they wanted with Kilgrave and are willing to move on. He's dead. There's nothing saying that the Defender ends the other series or that a Jessica Jones series cannot progress past Kilgrave. It's just a team up series like the Avengers and no more Kilgrave just opens up a number of directions the series can go.

 

[kedrell]

Well Jessica Jones doesn't have the larger mythos that DD, LC and IF do. They've been around far longer than her so there's more stories to draw from. But she can easily borrow elements from other characters who probably will never see the light of day or at least not for quite a while yet. Nuke ain't connected to her in the comics at all yet he fit in here. They wouldn't want Kilgrave for the bad guy in season 2 anyway. You need to spread out and diversify. I can see him coming back in season 3 or 4 though. He's the closest thing she has to an arch-nemesis after all. Fisk over in DD season 2 is a different story as he'll likely be in jail for most of, if not all of the season and performing his villainy by hiring others to attack DD. I think he'll stay much further in the background in season 2 than he did in season 1. As for Kilgrave, there's always the stuff with his many illegitimate children(he is a serial rapist after all who's probably got hundreds of kids all over) who all have his same powers.

I think the idea of 'he made her see himself killed' won't work. He can't erase memories and he doesn't cast illusions. He just bends wills to his own.

On a side note, I was disappointed to not see the scene where he kills an entire restaurant full of people by telling them all their breathing is too noisy and for them all to hold their breaths. But oh well.

 

[zenith16]

No, they're planning a doing a season 2, that was the whole point of IGH, setting up the next season. They just explored everything they wanted with Kilgrave and are willing to move on. He's dead. There's nothing saying that the Defender ends the other series or that a Jessica Jones series cannot progress past Kilgrave. It's just a team up series like the Avengers and no more Kilgrave just opens up a number of directions the series can go.

except there are no more iron man movies due to the avengers movies. there are for cap etc and thor possibly but not for the shell head. so far. anyway. some stuff do end but I guess I neglecked to say be sides it being up to the show runners that or they can still leave him dead as I said a page ago.



as to the rest no I've never stated he can erase memories I stated this before in prior post's here but his powers work by simple verbal suggestion so....

also as someone said about the healing factor of his in the comic's he survived his own kid's trying to kill him by using the same power he has and they told him to stand in front of train and he survived it.

I do get they want him clear off the show. if there is a season 2 .but I won' be surprised in some of behind the scene's video or interview that it wasn't on the table at one point in time that a season 2 would happen ether. it all depended on how much of a hit it was.first and for most.

and he would make a good team villain we can't say they won't consider that and the rage on jessica's face with in the show. it would make for a good story in the defenders

 

[Brother Jack]

Just finished the show today. Overall I think I enjoyed Daredevil a bit more but this was still a great show and very much its own beast. I really got into the characters, not just the titular one but all the supporting cast as well. I was surprised in how much I got invested in minor characters like Malcolm and even Trish. I hope they get to do another season just to explore those people more.

 

[Silvermoth]

It was kind of fun to see who the placeholder characters were. I kind of felt like simpson was an antman stand in and Trish was obviously a stand in for carol.

It's a shame Jean or someone similar to her couldn't have popped up in the series. To be honest I thought reva might have been the Jean stand in for a while.

 

[herolee10]

Just finished watching the entire show.

I will say that all of the main cast members really brought their A game into this show. I can't even count the number of times where my full attention was glued to the screen as a result of the great performances given by them. Also, when compared to Daredevil regarding "Shock Value", the show really knocked the ball out of the park.

That said, I don't think the show's style is exactly my type of thing. I definitely prefer Daredevil...both the show and the character over this one. I found it hard to like anyone in the series and I feel more invested in Matt Murdock's character than either Jessica Jones or Luke Cage.

However, I can't wait to see the three meet up for the eventual Defenders series. I'd love to see on how Matt will react to interacting with them and vice versa.

 

[gohei_]

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Uh, that's funny.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

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I realised when watching the show that they were making him look like Steve on purpose. But here it's just exactly the same. I like how they really just made him unhinged Cap (Sarge?).

 

[Lilbaz]

After all the build up of the risks of that last megadose, I think it was a real missed opportunity to not have Killgrave turn purple for the last episode.

It would have been great for people familiar with the character. For the other 90% of the audience it might have seemed silly.

 

[Web-Head]

Oh, yea. His motivation for that kill was definitely because he thought Clemons would stop him. The fire was him covering it up.

EDIT: Was anyone else reminded of the Russian fight in Punisher 04 by the fight with Nuke?

Absolutely. I thought the same exact thing while watching that scene.

 

[Flint Marko]

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Great catch.

 

[Web-Head]

Just finished the show a little bit ago. Overall, I would say I liked it and thought it was good. Kilgrave was great and the concept of mind control is extremely interesting. I enjoyed Ritter's performance and I really liked Malcolm and Trish. Looking forward to Luke Cage. I'd say about a 7.5-8/10.

 

[ssj wolverine]

just finished the first season. Enjoyed it a lot. Solid 8. No where near as good as Daredevil. I think it had to do with Kilgrave. I was hoping he would be on par with Fisk or Loki in terms of charisma or just the it factor that you can't take your eyes of the screen when he is on but he is just a brat with mind control powers that met an anti climatic end. Very good actor just weak writing in my opinion.

 

[Kar]

Finally finished. It started off slow to me but really picked up after episode 5 and so. Ritter wasn't my first choice but I love the look they had with her character. And to me the show really took off when Killgrave finally took center stage. This was just as much his show as it was Jessica's (in my opinion.) They essentially don't exist without the other, like two sides of the same coin. Rapey behavior aside, I loved their relationship with each other.

I understand why they said this show was darker than "Daredevil." It definitely is, but that's mainly due to the themes. DD was more gritty but I like this for what it is. Ending was slightly underwhelming, but I loved Night Nurse showing up. Made perfect sense.

I imagine next season would be about her investigating where her powers came from. I don't know if that story will be able to match the Killgrave one and deliver those chills and creep factor. I feel like that's apart of the show now, the real dark themes.

 

[Deserana]

I think it was the anti climatic nature of the death that annoyed me. If you're gonna kill a great villain at least give it something memorable. Whilst the line was great for all the shot he did and was doing I was hoping for a bit more than what we got. It seemed almost out of character that he fell for it so easily.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I finished this today. Overall it was great but I preferred Daredevil and enjoyed it more. Ritter impressed the hell out of me and she's just terrific. I enjoyed a lot of things about the show. The standout of course is Jessica's story and Kilgrave. Cage was great too. Strong central storyline and at times was more concise than Daredevil.

My biggest criticism is that this show felt like it was running low on fumes by the end, like it ran out of story and was just stretching things out. Episode 10 I thought it peaked and by episode 11 which was the worst episode by far which killed the entire momentum just felt like filler (looking for old dead bodies in the morgue my God, it just felt like they had to get to 13. This could have worked fine with 10 episodes) And the thing with Simpson got stupid and was kind of jarring when that turned. And the finale was solid but nothing special. Unlike the Daredevil finale which was tops. Those were my biggest turn offs but besides that this is still better than every other comic show on television besides Daredevil.

Also how they kind of forgot Pam is being accused of murder and they NEVER addressed that or went back to it. That would have been the perfect opportunity for Murdock to show up. That's exactly the type of case he'd take on and it would have felt organic.