Possible movement on Black Widow spin-off?

[Fincher]

If you mean characters from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., I feel like it's pretty well established Marvel Studios doesn't care anything about that.

I'm kind of of two minds on the prequel vs. sequel issue. On the one hand, making it a prequel means not having to bring up Avengers/Civil War/Infinity War/other stuff I'd rather leave out of it. On the other hand, Scarlett trying to play 10+ years younger is less than ideal (and I don't know if de-aging technology is really there yet), and I would prefer her not to be the badguy in the movie.

 

[DaddlerTheDalek]

'Black Widow' Movie Finds Director in Cate Shortland

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/a...w-movie-be-directed-by-cate-shortland-1126708

 

[Web-Head]

The name of the thread needs to change or give the movie a proper sub-forum.

"Possible movement"? LOl, the movie has a writer, star, production designer and director. It's official,

Yeah, Black Widow needs her own sub!

 

[Brutikus]

Thankfully ScarJo can definitely keep this role and project without any dramas.

 

[terry78]

Unless someone decides that she needs to look younger and cast a teenager.

 

[MasterCat]

I think audiences will just have to suspend their disbelief for ScarJo looking older in a prequel than A4. Spending money on that de-aging CGI for all the star's screen time doesn't make sense.

I'd be more excited to see a Michael Douglas/Michelle Pfeiffer MCU movie with that technology. They could have like 15 minutes of face time and dub the rest of their lines over helmeted doubles.

 

[Kuwolski]

I don't think an American should play this role.

 

[Wheels]

I don't think an American should play this role.

Well, ScarJo is already established and popular in the role. Come back when Marvel is recasting.

 

[BaronZemo]

I don't think an American should play this role.

Please tell me this is sarcasm...

 

[Kuwolski]

Please tell me this is sarcasm...

Spoiler

It is indeed SARCASM!

 

[tamron]

I really dug the idea brought up in the recent Tales of Suspense mini explaining Black Widow's return post-Secret Empire.

The Red Room has clones of operatives and uses psychics to have essentially a memory cloud server. The memories are curated and uploaded into the new body and the clone doesn't even realize they're not the original.

Adapted well, this idea could allow this movie to jump around in time or even explain a recast by having ScarJo BW's memories implanted in a new body.

 

[Fallen]

Yeah, Black Widow needs her own sub!

Is there a rule or requirement to create a new subforum?

Upcoming Superman Solo Movie: http://forums.superherohype.com/forumdisplay.php?f=699
- Director: ?
- Release date: ?
- Cast: Cavill?

Avengers 4: X
- Directors: Joe & Anthony Russo
- Release date: May 3, 2019
- Cast: Downey Jr., Evans, Johansson...

Black Widow: X
- Director: Cate Shortland
- Release date: TBA
- Cast: Johansonn...

.

 

[Silvermoth]

I asked a mod and they said they usually wait til a release date is confirmed so then they know it’s definitely happening.

I think there are exceptions to the rule every now and then but that’s basically it

 

[Drizzle]

Is there a rule or requirement to create a new subforum?

Upcoming Superman Solo Movie: http://forums.superherohype.com/forumdisplay.php?f=699
- Director: ?
- Release date: ?
- Cast: Cavill?

Avengers 4: X
- Directors: Joe & Anthony Russo
- Release date: May 3, 2019
- Cast: Downey Jr., Evans, Johansson...

Black Widow: X
- Director: Cate Shortland
- Release date: TBA
- Cast: Johansonn...

.

Black Widow will get one soon enough.

Avengers 4 pretty much has one already. http://forums.superherohype.com/forumdisplay.php?f=446
It'll probably get its own definitive one when the title is officially revealed.

As for Superman, the reason why he has one is because he has his own subforum anyway. If he didn't have a subforum, the solo Man of Steel sequel section wouldn't exist, but it's Superman. The OG superhero. He's always had a subforum even in the late '00s when there was no new film on the horizon.

 

[Wheels]

Superman is just one of those subforums that will always exist no matter what. Moderators can suggest ideas for subforums but it's not our call.

 

[samsnee]

Why does Batman V Superman have its own sub is the better question.

 

[Silvermoth]

Well to be fair probably because it was such a sub par movie lol

Are there any Russian actors or actresses you would love to see in this? I would love to see Alexey Vorobyov as one of the agents she kicks around with before she goes rogue



Or Konstantin khabensky from night watch as Natasha’s dad

 

[fixxxer]

I think a slightly more adult version of the M:I movies is what they should be aiming for.

Wouldn't want this to be purely a prequel. I'd say a mission set in the present day with a heavy dose of flashbacks (say, 50% of the movie, explaining the 'why' of the current mission). I think a Quentin Tarantino-esque use of chapter cards would really add a nice bit of flair here.

For example...

Today I
We start off in media res with BW in the middle of an action sequence. Car chase, infiltration of an enemy camp... you get the idea. We, the audience, don't really know what the mission is or why BW has traded in her superhero card in favor of more spy-based fare.

Red...
Nat as a kid being trained in the BW program after the (so-called) conclusion of the Cold War. The Cold War, Nat's instructor assures, very much rages on. I get that Agent Carter covered similar ground, but I think this would be important, thematically for the movie. Plus, you'd think the BW program would've evolved over the course of 60+ years.

...Ledger
Nat does some morally horrific stuff to pull off her mission. She starts to question whether she's on the right side.

Today II
Present day mission continues.

Archer
Hawkeye recruiting BW into SHIELD.

Today III
Revelation that whoever's putting Nat through the ringer was someone she f'ed over with the whole 'red in my ledger' thing.

Budapest
Well, Budapest.

Today IV
Climactic fight and whatnot.

 

[AvengerPA]

How do you feel about this as a plot?

-Natasha dies in Avengers 4. Hawkeye survives.
-The Black Widow movie begins with Hawkeye mourning Natasha's death.
-The rest of the movie is a flashback as Hawkeye recalls how he and Natasha first met.
-The Budapet incident is shown.
-The movie ends with The Red Room cloning Natasha (like in Tales of Suspense #100-104). This sets up a sequel with Natasha alive again in the present.

 

[Kev4000]

How do you feel about this as a plot?

-Natasha dies in Avengers 4. Hawkeye survives.
-The Black Widow movie begins with Hawkeye mourning Natasha's death.
-The rest of the movie is a flashback as Hawkeye recalls how he and Natasha first met.
-The Budapet incident is shown.
-The movie ends with The Red Room cloning Natasha (like in Tales of Suspense #100-104). This sets up a sequel with Natasha alive again in the present.

Please no.

 

[Zarex]

My NO PREQUEL Black Widow Movie:

- Natasha is retired and living in an affluent suburb with her husband (NOT BRUCE!)
- She works for a cyber security service in a high level position.
- Through her work she finds evidence (kidnapped children, dead parents) that one of
her former colleagues is restarting Red Room
- She goes back to the Motherland and starts kicking butt like a tiny, pretty Liam Neeson
-She defeats the villain (Ylena Belova?), frees the girls, and takes them back with her to American and adopts all six of them.

Leading to the Sequel - Black Widows - featuring Natasha and her team of a half dozen tween girl a** kickers.

 

[Yowza]

I like that letting her live as suburban house wife; the IT/Liam Neeson angle seems interesting but also partially cliche in a sense. However, returning with whole family of Black Widow's, while deviating into different territory than source material ever did, taps into the family dynamic Marvel may want to put into some of their movies...

I really dug the idea brought up in the recent Tales of Suspense mini explaining Black Widow's return post-Secret Empire.

The Red Room has clones of operatives and uses psychics to have essentially a memory cloud server. The memories are curated and uploaded into the new body and the clone doesn't even realize they're not the original.

Adapted well, this idea could allow this movie to jump around in time or even explain a recast by having ScarJo BW's memories implanted in a new body.

Throwing in some scifi elements into a spy based thriller I think would be fitting. The antiaging/enhancement formula used to explain her lengthy career in the comics another new scifi thing could introduce as well.

How do you feel about this as a plot?

-Natasha dies in Avengers 4. Hawkeye survives.
-The Black Widow movie begins with Hawkeye mourning Natasha's death.
-The rest of the movie is a flashback as Hawkeye recalls how he and Natasha first met.
-The Budapet incident is shown.
-The movie ends with The Red Room cloning Natasha (like in Tales of Suspense #100-104). This sets up a sequel with Natasha alive again in the present.

That sounds good as an indy based Black Widow movie not a tentpole/franchise movie fulfilling usual checkboxes fans will be looking for.

 

[Tg11]

A Black Widow movie would have that Taken type vibe to it but at the same time wouldn't it more or less be like a Captain America: Winter Soldier type of movie with Natasha as the lead?

 

[Flash525]

How do you feel about this as a plot?

-Natasha dies in Avengers 4. Hawkeye survives.
-The Black Widow movie begins with Hawkeye mourning Natasha's death.
-The rest of the movie is a flashback as Hawkeye recalls how he and Natasha first met.
-The Budapet incident is shown.
-The movie ends with The Red Room cloning Natasha (like in Tales of Suspense #100-104). This sets up a sequel with Natasha alive again in the present.

It was good until that last bit.

 

[AlluAllu]

Is this the first MCU movie that has a director, but hasn't actually been announced yet as a thing that will happen?