MCU Doctor Doom

[KRYPTON INC.]

Yeah plus I feel like most people will just assume Doom is live action Gru

 

[godisawesome]

I’d be up for “sneaking” Doom into the MCU before the FF show up - even if they didn’t do some Dark Avengers-style Infamous Iron Man route, it would be a good idea to cast a strong actor to play some supposedly nondescript or background character, then have someone disturb the illusion he cast over himself to blend in, and allow Doom to be glimpsed underneath for the first time.

In fact, having Doom present an idealized form to most people might be a good way to emphasize and reflect his vanity, and it would also form an interesting parallel to Dr. Strange’s seeking a way to heal his hands or that guy he met using magic to walk - Doom using magic for the petty and banal purpose of masking both his disfigurement and the armor he wears out of paranoia, but still being powerful enough to go toe-to-toe with Strange.

 

[terry78]

Yeah, Latveria should be a thing now, but maybe not as prominent as it's viewed as like one of those small eastern European countries that nobody really thinks about, until he starts being all high handed with people. He shouldn't be like a Kim or a Putin, but actually known as being a decent leader to an extent.

 

[godisawesome]

Yeah, Latveria should be a thing now, but maybe not as prominent as it's viewed as like one of those small eastern European countries that nobody really thinks about, until he starts being all heavy handed with people. He shouldn't be like a Kim or a Putin, but actually known as being a decent leader to an extent.

Latveria as a rising power to rival Wakanda, switching out Wakanda’s isolation for Doom elevating his country himself, would be a good way to play with geopolitics. And a Doom who has a positive but obscure public image at first allows for much subtler but still creepy vibes in Latveria when the mask comes off (or on, in this case.)

...What if Latveria emerged during the Five Year Time Skip? Like, it was a region traditionally oppressed, ruled, and “Vichy-fied” by neighbors until some revolutionaries managed to use the panic and despair caused by the Snap to take it - and then everyone is stunned at how quickly their market share in several industries increases, and at first, T'Challa thinks he has a potential ally... and then Doom gets exposed.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

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Make it come to be revealed Latveria was the only nation on Earth NOT affected by the Snap.

Talk about building up Doom's bona fides with the general audience... That'd do it.

Somehow Doom was able to fend off the Gauntlet's power. He closed his borders with the rest of the world and he spent the next five years looking to undo the Snap. He was about to undertake his own mission with his own method of bringing everyone dusted back when the Avengers beat him to the punch.

This hasn't sat well with Doom. But... At least that fool Stark is out of the way. Now... What to do about... Richards?

 

[godisawesome]

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Make it come to be revealed Latveria was the only nation on Earth NOT affected by the Snap.

Talk about building up Doom's bona fides with the general audience... That'd do it.

Somehow Doom was able to fend off the Gauntlet's power. He closed his borders with the rest of the world and he spent the next five years looking to undo the Snap. He was about to undertake his own mission with his own method of bringing everyone dusted back when the Avengers beat him to the punch.

This hasn't sat well with Doom. But... At least that fool Stark is out of the way. Now... What to do about... Richards?

I like it!

...But the one thing I’d want to add would be some unsettlingly vague mysteries about how he did all this, and suggestions of either eldritch bargains with monstrous implications, or inter-dimensional kidnappings, or artificial life, or something to give the audience pause regarding his methods and any flaws that may appear later in his ends.

Im a fan of Doom as a hyper-competent and prideful antagonist... but I would want even his more detached and virtuous accomplishments to have something... off... about them that reminds people that even a benevolent control freak is still a bad thing.

Edit: Just had an idea!

Y’know how fun and awesome Doom’s 3rd person bragging is? And how there might be some debate about how bombastic Doom should be in live action, especially after a restrained and down-to-earth personality was used by Thanos?

Tying into my previous ideas about Doom disguising himself with an illusion spell...

Imagine they cast a good actor in the role of “Doom’s herald” - a Latveria envoy and spokesman who speaks about their glorious leader in totally sincere and worshipful tones, often saying things like “Doom wills that peace be the order of the day in Latveria, and so it is,” and other classically bombastic sayings, but delivered by someone else...

...Or so it seems, because the first “Dr. Doom“ encountered is an over-the-top Doombot , while the real Doom’s form is an equally iconic but more menacing design, and the herald is the actual Doom... and he keeps the third person tic, but now with a tone that’s more subdued while still being impressive, half-sarcastic, and half very real confidence.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I like it!

...But the one thing I’d want to add would be some unsettlingly vague mysteries about how he did all this, and suggestions of either eldritch bargains with monstrous implications, or inter-dimensional kidnappings, or artificial life, or something to give the audience pause regarding his methods and any flaws that may appear later in his ends.

Im a fan of Doom as a hyper-competent and prideful antagonist... but I would want even his more detached and virtuous accomplishments to have something... off... about them that reminds people that even a benevolent control freak is still a bad thing.

Edit: Just had an idea!

Y’know how fun and awesome Doom’s 3rd person bragging is? And how there might be some debate about how bombastic Doom should be in live action, especially after a restrained and down-to-earth personality was used by Thanos?

Tying into my previous ideas about Doom disguising himself with an illusion spell...

Imagine they cast a good actor in the role of “Doom’s herald” - a Latveria envoy and spokesman who speaks about their glorious leader in totally sincere and worshipful tones, often saying things like “Doom wills that peace be the order of the day in Latveria, and so it is,” and other classically bombastic sayings, but delivered by someone else...

...Or so it seems, because the first “Dr. Doom“ encountered is an over-the-top Doombot , while the real Doom’s form is an equally iconic but more menacing design, and the herald is the actual Doom... and he keeps the third person tic, but now with a tone that’s more subdued while still being impressive, half-sarcastic, and half very real confidence.

I like it.

Doom's speech pattern is over the top but distinctive and long time fans want all his arrogance on display but putting this stuff in live action does mean some adjustment.

 

[godisawesome]

I like it.

Doom's speech pattern is over the top but distinctive and long time fans want all his arrogance on display but putting this stuff in live action does mean some adjustment.

The pitch perfect spot for doom would be openly theatrical, but in an intimidating and highly charismatic manner. Doom’s an extrovert through and through, and having a villain who can out-trash talk the heroes would be fascinating... especially if he keeps it classy.

Also, I sketched up this concept fan art yesterday to keep myself occupied. I don’t think this would be a good Dr. Doom armor/costume for the man himself... but for a Doombot decoy?

 

[Batmannerism]

I'm going to buck the trend and go for an OTT Doom, I loved the brooding Doom of John Byrne's FF run, nobody drew Doom better IMO, but the sophisticated and contemporary attempts to being the character to life were both dismal failures.
While Byrne's Doom was menacing and brilliant he was also a bit ridiculous- constantly referring to himself in the 3rd person, and I lived loved it!

Let's forget the prior attempts and get someone who's a full on RSC villain - almost Gerrard Butler...but maybe a better actor because Doom with a Scottish accent would just sound wrong.

" Madness you say ? THUS US LAT-VE- RI-A!"

Have to really think about the casting - I hate to say it but Christian Bale is probably a good choice, although he's in Thor 4 now. You also want someone who's really going to enjoy the role ( back in the day Chris Plummer would have been right for it) I'm sure a lot of people will hate this, but what about Nic Cage ? Nobody does OTT like Cage. Actually, I've always hoped he'd land the Joker, so no.

Someone a bit more predictable, but who have the chops to do the role justice....Ralph Fiennes or Jason Isaac's.

Yeah, I know I'm going through the regular " British actors who play villains " cycle, but I think that's what we need here. Well that's IMO anyway.

Cheers.

 

[VictusMortuus]

Dan Stevens was born to play this role!

 

[godisawesome]

I’d actually kind of want to see if Marvel would look for any Hungarian, Polish, Romanian, or other Eastern European actors who are unknown to American audiences. Every country has a few actors with hitherto un-tapped gravitas for Western audiences, and if Doom could be bombastic in not just the expected English, but possibly even actual Hungarian or Romanian languages, it would add a certain flair to the character.

If that isn’t the case, Isaacs is a guy who we know can be bombastic or subtle, and a possible dark horse for a thinner Doom underneath the armor might be Adrian Brody.

 

[Chris B]

I’d actually kind of want to see if Marvel would look for any Hungarian, Polish, Romanian, or other Eastern European actors who are unknown to American audiences. Every country has a few actors with hitherto un-tapped gravitas for Western audiences, and if Doom could be bombastic in not just the expected English, but possibly even actual Hungarian or Romanian languages, it would add a certain flair to the character.

I wouldn't mind this myself. I kinda feel that Doom is one character that would benefit from having an unknown actor in the role, and having an actor from Eastern Europe would add a level of authenticity.

 

[godisawesome]

Anyone else think they should actually keep Latveria where it “really” is in the comics, between Serbia, Romania, and Hungary?

If they used the Snap and Time Skip for background fodder, Latveria could resemble Wakanda a bit more in terms of incorporating real world cultures in its makeup. Sokovia as a “generic Eastern European place” was a bit underwhelming, and having a more “real” place can work wonders.

...Personally, I’d even to so far as to make it clear Latveria is a brand-spanking new country to further contrast with Wakanda; Wakanda as the old power, Latveria as the young gun.

 

[Dark Raven]

Anyone else think they should actually keep Latveria where it “really” is in the comics, between Serbia, Romania, and Hungary?

If they used the Snap and Time Skip for background fodder, Latveria could resemble Wakanda a bit more in terms of incorporating real world cultures in its makeup. Sokovia as a “generic Eastern European place” was a bit underwhelming, and having a more “real” place can work wonders.

...Personally, I’d even to so far as to make it clear Latveria is a brand-spanking new country to further contrast with Wakanda; Wakanda as the old power, Latveria as the young gun.

I don't want Latveria as a new country. I want it very much to be considered "the old country", and a throwback to another time. It should even look like it's stuck in a time warp and from a previous century. They should take many cues from Transylvania and have it look like that with its ancient castles and people dressed in clothing from another period.

 

[GoblinScrier]

Marvel Studios' Reported Intentions for Doctor Doom in the MCU

Have no idea if any of this is true but I like what I hear...other than that cast member as a potential candidate, it does bring a smile to my face as to the possible direction of Doom

 

[Iceman]

I don't want Latveria as a new country. I want it very much to be considered "the old country", and a throwback to another time. It should even look like it's stuck in a time warp and from a previous century. They should take many cues from Transylvania and have it look like that with its ancient castles and people dressed in clothing from another period.

Sounds pretty cool. I like that kind of visual/background.

 

[Dark Raven]

Sounds pretty cool. I like that kind of visual/background.

I want it to look more like this

 

[GoblinScrier]

Those castles and the areas surrounding them are exactly what I think Doomstadt, Latveria should look like...the more ominous castles towards the bottom of the list are perfect for Castle Doom....[

QUOTE="Dark Raven, post: 38250544, member: 85327"]I want it to look more like this

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[batdude]

it's too bad they didn't do Iron Man Four with Doom and introduce the FF in that.

 

[Albright]

Those pictures are awesome. But if rumors are true, Moon Knight and also Blade will introduce Dracula - and his castle will be in Transylvania

 

[Boom]

Those castles and the areas surrounding them are exactly what I think Doomstadt, Latveria should look like...the more ominous castles towards the bottom of the list are perfect for Castle Doom....[

QUOTE="Dark Raven, post: 38250544, member: 85327"]I want it to look more like this

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[Dark Raven]

Those pictures are awesome. But if rumors are true, Moon Knight and also Blade will introduce Dracula - and his castle will be in Transylvania

I'm not saying though to have Doom in Transylvania. He should still be in Latveria. I'm saying that they should take inspiration from Transylvania for that old-world feel and classic-looking castles and architecture.

 

[MilkmanDan]

Yeah, Doomstadt should have that old, East-European look that's found not only in Transylvania but also in places like Prague, Riga or Tallinn. Just find some quaint, pretty locations for the town itself plus a castle that's both pompous and creepy.

 

[Detective Conan]

I’m really digging this design.



What’s the verdict here? I really think this design is good enough to be used in a feature film.

 

[Dark Raven]

I’m really digging this design.



What’s the verdict here? I really think this design is good enough to be used in a feature film.

It looks cool, but I prefer the two cape clasps. Also don't like that the armour on his arms are only covering part of it or that there is red in there.