Marvel Films MCU X-Men - Part 4

[Lip]

Honestly, and sadly, I think we'll only see mutant related stuff in the X-Men movie.

 

[Silvermoth]

Yeah. Apparently there are people that keep thinking there’s a connection between falcon and the winter soldier and the xmen because there’s a Japanese character in it and people seem to think she’s Psylocke which is a bit embarrassing

 

[WatchProtect]

Im not saying Mutants show up but it's much more likely people think it because Madripor is in the show, and Omega Red has been rumored by a few different people.

I've never even seen anyone mention Psylocke in relation to this show

 

[Lip]

The introduction of mutants, even by easter eggs, is going to be a massive thing that will lead to a lot of debate and questions about the upcoming debut of the X-Men. And I don't think they want an X-Men buzz to take the attention away from their current projects.

Take WandaVision for instance. They had opportunities to make some introductions there, but they didn't because they didn't want a multiverse or mutants to potentially take the spotlight from what they meant: Wanda's transformation into the Scarlet Witch.

From the phase 4 projects, Wandavision and Eternals are the ones that makes more sense to have some concepts introduced. And if they didn't do that in WandaVision where there are established characters leading, they aren't doing that with a property not even comicbook fans are familiar with. They'll focus solely on the characters and their mythology to establish them. That's what I think.

So I think we'll only hear about mutants in the X-Men movie.

 

[EnDz0n3]

and the xmen because there’s a Japanese character in it and people seem to think she’s Psylocke which is a bit embarrassing

Wait...the Sushi waitress? People thought she was Psylocke? LMAO These are the same people who thought Lamar Johnson was playing Gladiator in Dark Phoenix because he was flexing his muscle in a gym selfie.

 

[metaphysician]

I think its safe to assume that every single Marvel work from here on out is going to get a loud crowd of X-Men fanboys eagerly predicting that This One Is Totally Going To Be About Bringing In The Mutants. No matter how absurd and nonsensical.

Also, I suspect a lot of long time X-Men fanboys are going to be upset about the actual amount of narrative importance Marvel Studios grants to the X-Men, when they do show up. Which is to say, they will have a corner of the MCU, and it'll get love and attention, but it is *not* going to be the centerpiece.

 

[SumT]

I think its safe to assume that every single Marvel work from here on out is going to get a loud crowd of X-Men fanboys eagerly predicting that This One Is Totally Going To Be About Bringing In The Mutants. No matter how absurd and nonsensical.

Also, I suspect a lot of long time X-Men fanboys are going to be upset about the actual amount of narrative importance Marvel Studios grants to the X-Men, when they do show up. Which is to say, they will have a corner of the MCU, and it'll get love and attention, but it is *not* going to be the centerpiece.

You just dont know that.
None of us know. The reality is that the Avengers movies are slowing down, some solo heroes are closing their trilogies.... so who knows if Feige have huge plans for the x-men in 4-5 years and he will put them front and center of MCU? if Feige wants that, he will do it. He is a fan of the x-men, so its all up to him after all. We just gotta wait and see.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I think most of these first few D+ projects were in the works before Disney bought fox or as it was happening. Andy Park one of the lead artist at marvel said he designed the SW costume for the show back in like 2017 or 18. Not to say that stuff can't change, but these outlines were likely approved and set in stone before they had ability to start working on any mutant related projects. So we'll see.

 

[universeman]

You just dont know that.
None of us know. The reality is that the Avengers movies are slowing down, some solo heroes are closing their trilogies.... so who knows if Feige have huge plans for the x-men in 4-5 years and he will put them front and center of MCU? if Feige wants that, he will do it. He is a fan of the x-men, so its all up to him after all. We just gotta wait and see.

Also correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't Marvel made the new comics be about The X-Men or at least have it have something to do with them?

For example seems The Avengers comics is dealing with The Phoenix, which Avenger will become the new Phoenix, and

Spoiler

Thor was revealed to be The Phoenix's Son with Odin.

Then there's the non stop X-Men comics events that Marvel makes a big deal about. I think the next one is The X-Men/Marvel's version of the Met Gala.

Now, I don't know about anyone else but I get the idea that if anyone wants The X-Men as the center of attention it's Marvel themselves

 

[Silvermoth]

Did anyone else listen to the Fat Man Beyond podcast with Kevin Smith? He recently had an interview with Andy Park, the concept artist at marvel and he said he’s working on marvel stuff years in the future. As in, they start with the concept art before casting or even finding a director.

just think, someone in marvel’s headquarters is probably already mocking up costumes for the x-men/mutants. Oh what I would give, just to have a peek

 

[metaphysician]

You just dont know that.
None of us know. The reality is that the Avengers movies are slowing down, some solo heroes are closing their trilogies.... so who knows if Feige have huge plans for the x-men in 4-5 years and he will put them front and center of MCU? if Feige wants that, he will do it. He is a fan of the x-men, so its all up to him after all. We just gotta wait and see.

Of course I don't *know* that. . . just like the copious numbers of X-Men fans predicting vast elaborate setups of interconnected mutant movies don't know that.

What I do know, however, is that I am willing to *bet* that the truth is closer to my position than yours. . . simply because the elaborate predictions by said X-men fans trend to such ridiculous extremes. Betting against the MCU becoming the Mutant Cinematic Universe is simply prudent betting.

 

[Marvel united]

Of course I don't *know* that. . . just like the copious numbers of X-Men fans predicting vast elaborate setups of interconnected mutant movies don't know that.

What I do know, however, is that I am willing to *bet* that the truth is closer to my position than yours. . . simply because the elaborate predictions by said X-men fans trend to such ridiculous extremes. Betting against the MCU becoming the Mutant Cinematic Universe is simply prudent betting.

I think X-Men/mutants eclipsing the MCU is sort of inevitable. It won't happen with the first film, it may not even happen with the second. But it's gonna happen, eventually. Such is the nature of the mutant; as the next step in human evolution e.g. the MCU.

By the time the X-Men show up, multiple MCU franchises will be nearing the end of their trilogies. Now of course none of those franchises are guaranteed to end after the third film, but, it's a def a marker of closure. Which will only make more space for X-Universe projects.

It's gonna happen. Slowly but surely. The X-Men universe alone can sustain the MCU for the next 25 years.

 

[Lip]

I think X-Men/mutants eclipsing the MCU is sort of inevitable. It won't happen with the first film, it may not even happen with the second. But it's gonna happen, eventually. Such is the nature of the mutant; as the next step in human evolution e.g. the MCU.

By the time the X-Men show up, multiple MCU franchises will be nearing the end of their trilogies. Now of course none of those franchises are guaranteed to end after the third film, but, it's a def a marker of closure. Which will only make more space for X-Universe projects.

It's gonna happen. Slowly but surely. The X-Men universe alone can sustain the MCU for the next 25 years.

I agree the X-Men has enough material to sustain the MCU for decades. I agree the end of some projects will open the doors for X-Men spin-offs. But I don't see them being the center of everything. A massive part? Absolutely. But not mutant centric.

CM, DS, BP, AMatW, Guardians could end in the next 6 years or so. But there are new ones too. Fantastic Four, Eternals, Shang-Chi and Blade are yet to start. Maybe the new BW could lead some sequels. And if the deal continues, Spider-Man isn't going anywhere. And they could still invest in some other projects like Nova, Thunderbolts, Dark Avengers, Young Avengers, New Avengers, A-Force, Daredevil, Defenders and the other Netflix heroes, Namor (?), etc... today I read they're developing another D+ show based on a character I never heard of.

They're not showing signs of slowing down. And I believe they'll continue to expand the Marvel universe as a whole.

 

[universeman]

I think X-Men/mutants eclipsing the MCU is sort of inevitable. It won't happen with the first film, it may not even happen with the second. But it's gonna happen, eventually. Such is the nature of the mutant; as the next step in human evolution e.g. the MCU.

By the time the X-Men show up, multiple MCU franchises will be nearing the end of their trilogies. Now of course none of those franchises are guaranteed to end after the third film, but, it's a def a marker of closure. Which will only make more space for X-Universe projects.

It's gonna happen. Slowly but surely. The X-Men universe alone can sustain the MCU for the next 25 years.

Exactly and while there are other Marvel projects in the works we don't know if those will be a hit. We also don't know if Feige will still be running the show in the future.

If anything I imagine before he retires he would want to do The X-Men. Also The X-Men to Disney is what Batman is to WB. An unlimited big cash cow IP.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I think X-Men/mutants eclipsing the MCU is sort of inevitable. It won't happen with the first film, it may not even happen with the second. But it's gonna happen, eventually. Such is the nature of the mutant; as the next step in human evolution e.g. the MCU.

By the time the X-Men show up, multiple MCU franchises will be nearing the end of their trilogies. Now of course none of those franchises are guaranteed to end after the third film, but, it's a def a marker of closure. Which will only make more space for X-Universe projects.

It's gonna happen. Slowly but surely. The X-Men universe alone can sustain the MCU for the next 25 years.

Gonna have to echo @Lip here.

A big important part for Marvel and Disney?

For sure.

But eclipsing everything else to the point it overshadows the MCU?

That's a bridge too far for me.

 

[Silvermoth]

I’m just dying for the day they give us like a whole SDCC info dump. Tv shows, movies, video games. I want it all.

I wonder if they would consider an actual hellfire gala type event similar to may the fourth where people can dress up and just go mental for xmen stuff for a bit

 

[Iceman]

The X-Men are going to be huge 6/7 years after their introduction when multiple films and shows covering them are concurrently running and building up to event films featuring them. Feige will be developing the rest of the MCU at the same time though, and turning smaller comic properties into bigger ones while he does so. Also I can’t wait for the likes of F4, Eternals, Young Avengers and the new Avengers team. There will be plenty of non-X-Men stuff big and small, even as X-Men hopefully becomes massive.

 

[psylockolussus]

I’m just dying for the day they give us like a whole SDCC info dump. Tv shows, movies, video games. I want it all.

I wonder if they would consider an actual hellfire gala type event similar to may the fourth where people can dress up and just go mental for xmen stuff for a bit

Right now, I want a triple a X-Men videogame - marvel studios don't need to work on that to make it happen. X-Men Legends 2 is turning 15 years old this year.

Marvel Studios' The Mutants won't be released until 2024 or 2025, so I can't get eXcited especially they have so many films and streaming series that haven't started filming.

 

[Silvermoth]

Right now, I want a triple a X-Men videogame - marvel studios don't need to work on that to make it happen. X-Men Legends 2 is turning 15 years old this year.

Marvel Studios' The Mutants won't be released until 2024 or 2025, so I can't get eXcited especially they have so many films and streaming series that haven't started filming.

I would also enjoy this. I mean marvel ultimate alliance 3 turned out to be such a disappointment, surely they could do better with xmen legends 3. Then again, are there any other video games with giant rosters like this that work? Mass effect I suppose but marvel and Disney would never invest that amount into the gaming sector when they could just do, like a candy crush skin type game

 

[psylockolussus]

I would also enjoy this. I mean marvel ultimate alliance 3 turned out to be such a disappointment, surely they could do better with xmen legends 3. Then again, are there any other video games with giant rosters like this that work? Mass effect I suppose but marvel and Disney would never invest that amount into the gaming sector when they could just do, like a candy crush skin type game

I don't know about investing, I think game studios and publishers would have to come to Marvel and license X-Men, just like in the old days. Thats what happening with the upcoming Star Wars games right now. I don't think Avengers by square eniX was funded by Marvel and that game haven't recouped its budget and we don't read anything about Marvel Entertainment losing a cent from that game. Same thing with the new Spider-Man games. They are licensed games and Marvel are making money from those publishers regardless of its quality and sales.

 

[Silvermoth]

I could see them trying to get into Fortnite in a big way

 

[psylockolussus]

I'm not interested in Fortnite or any games similar to it. I think a X-Men game is unrealistic at the moment. It took quite long for the Avengers to get a big budgeted videogame after their first movie and Square EniX's game was disappointing both in quality and sales. And I don't think that bodes well for future Marvel game that isn't Spider-Man. There's just no publisher ever since ActiVision that is willing to pump out a new Marvel console game almost every year. Marvel Games is also a bit all over the place as well.

Honestly, and sadly, I think we'll only see mutant related stuff in the X-Men movie.

As it should be imo.

 

[Silvermoth]

Yeah I’m not exactly a fortnite guy but it’s made squillions and I could see marvel and Disney being interested in that.

Call me crazy but I would love to see the bamfs appear. They could totally knock baby yoda off his pedestal lol. Actually a Nightcrawler Disney+ series would be amazing! We know they can do it now that they’ve done vision

 

[psylockolussus]

Yeah I’m not exactly a fortnite guy but it’s made squillions and I could see marvel and Disney being interested in that.

Call me crazy but I would love to see the bamfs appear.

The merry mutants already appeared in the Fortnite game.

 

[TheVileOne]

Im not saying Mutants show up but it's much more likely people think it because Madripor is in the show, and Omega Red has been rumored by a few different people.

I've never even seen anyone mention Psylocke in relation to this show

No one legit has reported on Madripoor or Omega Red.