Russia threatens to nuke Poland

I suppose you didnt see the Yahoo news link kid. :whatever:

its also no where near any of the headlines on yahoo in any section, wasnt on the tv news... its probably a line thats blown out of proportion. if it was that big of a deal or serious, it would be alot easier to find :o:whatever:
 
and i was correct. the Sun, as always blows things out of proportion.



By JIM HEINTZ, Associated Press Writer Fri Aug 15, 7:16 PM ET

MOSCOW - A top Russian general said Friday that Poland's agreement to accept a U.S. missile interceptor base exposes the ex-communist nation to attack, possibly by nuclear weapons, the Interfax news agency reported.
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The statement by Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn is the strongest threat that Russia has issued against the plans to put missile defense elements in former Soviet satellite nations.

Poland and the United States on Thursday signed a deal for Poland to accept a missile interceptor base as part of a system the United States says is aimed at blocking attacks by rogue nations. Moscow, however, feels it is aimed at Russia's missile force.

"Poland, by deploying (the system) is exposing itself to a strike — 100 percent," Nogovitsyn, the deputy chief of staff, was quoted as saying.

He added, in clear reference to the agreement, that Russia's military doctrine sanctions the use of nuclear weapons "against the allies of countries having nuclear weapons if they in some way help them." Nogovitsyn that would include elements of strategic deterrence systems, he said, according to Interfax.

At a news conference earlier Friday, Nogovitsyn had reiterated Russia's frequently stated warning that placing missile-defense elements in Poland and the Czech Republic would bring an unspecified military response. But his subsequent reported statement substantially stepped up a war of words.

Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski was quoted Friday by the Polish news agency PAP as saying that Poland is open to Russian inspections because it wants to give Moscow "tangible proof" that the planned base is not directed against Russia.

U.S. officials have said the timing of the deal was not meant to antagonize Russian leaders at a time when relations already are strained over the recent fighting between Russia and Georgia over the separatist Georgian region of South Ossetia.

Russian forces went deep into Georgia in the fighting, raising wide concerns that Russia could be seeking to occupy parts of its small, pro-U.S. neighbor, which has vigorously lobbied to join NATO, or even to force its government to collapse.

"I think the Russian behavior over the last several days is generally concerning not only to the United States but to all of our European allies," said Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman, when asked about Russian threats against Poland as a result of the missile defense agreement.

He also suggested that earlier U.S. offers for broad cooperation with Moscow on the missile defense program may be reevaluated considering the latest developments.

Under the agreement that Warsaw and Washington reached Thursday, Poland will accept an American missile interceptor base.

Washington says the planned system, which is not yet operational, is needed to protect the U.S. and Europe from possible attacks by missile-armed "rogue states" like Iran. The Kremlin, however, feels it is aimed at Russia's missile force and warns it will worsen tensions.

In an interview on Poland's news channel TVN24, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said the United States agreed to help augment Poland's defenses with Patriot missiles in exchange for placing 10 missile defense interceptors in the Eastern European country.

He said the deal also includes a "mutual commitment" between the two nations to come to each other's assistance "in case of trouble."

That clause appeared to be a direct reference to Russia.

Poland has all along been guided by fears of a newly resurgent Russia, an anxiety that has intensified with Russia's offensive in Georgia. In past days, Polish leaders said that fighting justified Poland's demands that it get additional security guarantees from Washington in exchange for allowing the anti-missile base on its soil.

"Simply the existence of this installation increases Poland's security," Polish President Lech Kaczynski said Friday.

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Associated Press writers Lolita C. Baldor in Washington and Vanessa Gera in Warsaw, Poland contributed to this report.

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In this Aug. 13, 2008 file photo, Russia's deputy chief of General Staff Col.-Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn addresses the media in Moscow. Nogovitsyn said Friday, Aug. 15, 2008 that Poland's agreement to accept a U.S. missile defense battery exposes the country to attack, pointing out that Russian military doctrine permits the use of nuclear weapons in such a situation, the Interfax news agency reported. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze, File)

the word "possibly" is not the same as "RUSSIA THREATENS NUKES!"
 
I think you're fixating on the wrong thing, spideboy.

From the article you just posted said:
"Poland, by deploying (the system) is exposing itself to a strike — 100 percent," Nogovitsyn, the deputy chief of staff, was quoted as saying.

That's as close to flat out saying that Russia will attack Poland as it gets from a diplomatic standpoint. The threat was very real and very clear, no matter how mired in the semantics you'd like to get.

jag
 
We need to get the opinion of our resident Russian poster, Terrible Doll, in this thread. So far he's just been defending Russia's activities in Georgia over in the Politics forum.
 
I think you're fixating on the wrong thing, spideboy.



That's as close to flat out saying that Russia will attack Poland as it gets from a diplomatic standpoint. The threat was very real and very clear, no matter how mired in the semantics you'd like to get.

jag

He knows what he's talking about. Russia is basically saying they will Nuke Poland if they feel they need to.

its also no where near any of the headlines on yahoo in any section, wasnt on the tv news... its probably a line thats blown out of proportion. if it was that big of a deal or serious, it would be alot easier to find

It really isnt hard to find if you have basic Internet skills, you do know Yahoo news changes it's headlines dont you? The very definition of news is that it's new.
 
Wtf!
I Live In Poland!

I don't wonna die..:(
No...:(
 
I wouldn't get too worried, Firm18. It's highly unlikely that Russia would do something so stupid. They can't afford it economically or diplomatically, and the rest of the world would turn them into nuclear dust in retaliation. They're just rattling their sabres a bit and seeing what kind of reactions they get. Putin's just looking for attention.

jag
 
But the problem is that it's getting bigger and bigger. Jesus why did we have to move from England...
I mean you never know when anything happens.
 
This is serious. I'm not for Russia,but I can understand why they would be angry. It's like having missies at your back door. But if America thinks it can boast that it can take on Russia,I don't think so. Bush and Iraq has basically ruined the American army.
 
I wouldn't get too worried, Firm18. It's highly unlikely that Russia would do something so stupid. They can't afford it economically or diplomatically, and the rest of the world would turn them into nuclear dust in retaliation. They're just rattling their sabres a bit and seeing what kind of reactions they get. Putin's just looking for attention.

jag

Launching a large nuclear attack on Russia would not be wise due to it's location on our planet. It's position is so that a series of nuclear explosions could drastically effect the ice caps and possibly lead to a global plate shift.
 
I think you're fixating on the wrong thing, spideboy.

That's as close to flat out saying that Russia will attack Poland as it gets from a diplomatic standpoint. The threat was very real and very clear, no matter how mired in the semantics you'd like to get.

jag

It's a conditional threat based on perceived aggression. This threat is highlighting that Poland would be a target in the event of war. Which it would be if it has a US missile "interceptor" base. As nice as missile defence might sound in theory, due to the fact that it is highly unlikely to actually work, many countries feel this increased amount of global missile bases is highly suspicious.

I wouldn't get too worried, Firm18. It's highly unlikely that Russia would do something so stupid. They can't afford it economically or diplomatically, and the rest of the world would turn them into nuclear dust in retaliation. They're just rattling their sabres a bit and seeing what kind of reactions they get. Putin's just looking for attention.

jag
The threat's not coming from Putin, It's from the military. But i agree. Even if Poland were to build the base, Russia won't attack unless provoked.

(Unless they use the Bush precedent of the ******** "pre emptive strike") Gotta remember Saddam Thought the US would never breach his national sovereignty either for the same reasons.
 
It's a conditional threat based on perceived aggression. This threat is highlighting that Poland would be a target in the event of war. Which it would be if it has a US missile "interceptor" base. As nice as missile defence might sound in theory, due to the fact that it is highly unlikely to actually work, many countries feel this increased amount of global missile bases is highly suspicious.

Yeah, that's why I say it's mostly sabre-rattling and not a whole lot more.

The threat's not coming from Putin, It's from the military. But i agree. Even if Poland were to build the base, Russia won't attack unless provoked.

(Unless they use the Bush precedent of the ******** "pre emptive strike") Gotta remember Saddam Thought the US would never breach his national sovereignty either for the same reasons.

Oh, it's the military making the threat but make no mistake, Putin holds all the cards. Hell, he even transferred all his favorite Presidential powers over to the Prime Minister role, which he then assumed after he left the office of President. At any rate, Saddam playing chicken with the rest of the world and Russia doing it are two different animals altogether.

jag
 
Today is a good day to die!!
 

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