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Glad I bowed out of this thread about 80 posts ago. It didn't go anywhere happy or productive - sic semper trolls I guess.
I wish I would’ve been as wise as you! I kept falling for the bait.Glad I bowed out of this thread about 80 posts ago. It didn't go anywhere happy or productive - sic semper trolls I guess.
I'm a fan of a lot of Snyder's stuff, but I just shake my head at these Zacko-wackos.I really don't understand why some Zack Snyder fans have adopted this persecuted cultist mentality and feel the need to fight tooth and nail with anybody that doesn't like Snyder's work, it's honestly strange.
“Zacko Wackos” is a really good term for them, lol.I'm a fan of a lot of Snyder's stuff, but I just shake my head at these Zacko-wackos.
I wish I would’ve been as wise as you! I kept falling for the bait.
I bowed out the second this poster started arguing about how art is objective and then proceeded to put words in my mouth just for the sake of turning a discussion into an argument.
I really don't understand why some Zack Snyder fans have adopted this persecuted cultist mentality and feel the need to fight tooth and nail with anybody that doesn't like Snyder's work, it's honestly strange.
The worst thing about all this is that we can expect ALOT more threads like this when the Snyder cut comes out, because I can guarantee you that, at best, his JL cut will divide critics and fans alike ala MOS or is outright rejected ala BvS, which is par the course for Snyder's superhero work.
I hope you're wrong about lots more threads like this popping up - I suspect most rational people know that his cut of JL is unlikely to make it into a classic that rivals the Avengers, even if it does improve the film.
Personally, I spent a lot of time defending Man of Steel because I think it gets more right than wrong- although very gradually, over time, its flaws have made me rethink that a little. I still enjoy it, but there are some aspects of it that clearly were not thought through much at all. Mind you that's not because I have any particular love for Snyder - if anything B v S has all of MoS flaws and none of it's good aspects and JL is more cartoonish than an episode of the old JL cartoon.
There is actually a Facebook page called The Church of SnyderI'm a fan of a lot of Snyder's stuff, but I just shake my head at these Zacko-wackos.
Really??There is actually a Facebook page called The Church of Snyder
Good one. I’m impressed!Really??
What do his followers call themselves, di-sny-ples?
Good one. I’m impressed!
I feel like they'd get confused with House of Mouse worshippers, lol.Really??
What do his followers call themselves, di-sny-ples?
There is actually a Facebook page called The Church of Snyder
Not to be overly dramatic, but such is the existential crisis of sorts that comes from movies being the biggest, most popular versions of these characters. In people's minds they have added responsibility not associated with an elseworlds comic, which also has the advantage of a specific branding that signals what it is.
In comics Batman isn't a killer.
Superman is not a brooding character he is an character of hope and inspiration.
Zac Snyder respects and loves the characters but he wants to ask and show the tuff questions that most people would only really answer in an elseworld tale or one shot and not in main continuity like a film series.
He wants them challenged and dragged through the ringer.
His DCEU are the heros we know and love. With characters like Batman and Superman that have been adapted numerous times in film, he doesn't just want to just do the same old thing. He wants to show us that these characters aren't perfect and are flawed like us.
I don't need to go back through the thread. I have my own opinion and its right for me.Oh f@#$ ( pardon my language) back we go to the beginning ! Round and round !
Not that I disrespect anyone's opinion or would want to shut down free speech but this thread seems to be going nowhere - @flickchick85 your Godzilla stomping powers might be required again soon if things start ti get out of hand again.
Two comments though:
1) @batfreakforever you might want to go back and look through the past posts in this thread and you'll see some compelling arguments about why everything you've said about Zack Snyder is questionable. You're totally entitled to your opinion, but a lot have people have deconstructed Snyder's deconstruction of Batman and Superman and it might not be quite the thought provoking and challenging approach to them that you might think.
2) for everyone, maybe a better thread subject might be " what films would Zack Snyder be the perfect director for? " Clearly it isn't superhero films, if it were the majority of people ( particularly superhero fans) would have reacted positively to them.
However, Snyder might be the perfect guy for the next Transformers film, or maybe a Blade movie ?
Maybe if he had to do one more cbm, he could do the Hulk some justice.
The guy has some talents - I watched Man of Steel last night and there are a bunch of great things about the movie - the establishing shots of Kansas during Superman's childhood flashbacks are pretty breathtaking- there are some great moments in Watchmen too.
Cheers.
I don't need to go back through the thread. I have my own opinion and its right for me.
I like Snyders films and he's perfectly fit for superheroes. Especially for the DCEU.
With AT&T in charge who finally are all in with Snyder and not the idiots in charge of WB as before.
Don't be surprised if Snyder has even more projects lined up in the DCEU after the Snyder's Justice League Cut is released and even more so if its a hit. He supposedly has even more say then before.
Supposedly Snyder isn't right for comic book adaptions but he's done 300, Watchmen, Man Of Steel, BVS Ultimate Edition, His massive Justice League Cut ect. Had main involvement in casting the DCEU and producing those other DCEU films.
Hes done comic book movies with the biggest people in Comics for 15 years. Yeah he isnt right for Comic book adaptions but hey thats just an opinion right.