For you to say he maybe doesn't love and respect the characters just shows how little you listen to Zac and the way he talks about the characters
Good lord you are the 2nd Zack Snyder fanatic on this forum who finds ok to put words in my mouth. Since the start of this topic I never once said he doesn't respect the characters or comics, so
please, PLEASE read my post more carefully!
Don't go throwing box office numbers at me because to try and justify why you think Zac doesn't respect comics.
PLEASE read my post more carefully and please stop putting words in my mouth. PLEASE!
As for throwing box office numbers at you, well it was you who said that Zack Snyder is the
right guy to make comicbook movies but the boxoffice multipliers and final numbers indicate that to the audience he is NOT the right guy to do comic books. Now if you like his work, then that's perfectly fine and boxffice numbers shouldn't matter but when a studio gives the man 100s of millions to make movies that appeal to the mass audience and they end up failing or disappointing both at the box office and critical reception then from a business point of view he is NOT the
right guy for comicbook movies.
Box office has nothing to do with if he respects the comics or not
You're right and I never said it was and if you actually read my post more carefully you would realize that I never said Snyder doesn't respect comicbooks or characters, I used boxoffice numbers to dispute your claim that Zack is the right guy to make comicbook movies when financially and critically, from a studio's perspective, he isn't, but that should not affect your enjoyment of his films.
His Watchmen movie is held in high respect. So is his 300 movie and Man of Steel. Batman V Superman Ultimate Edition is highly respected too by fans.
Actually Watchmen was positively reviewed (I liked the film) but a 68% critic rating isn't
high respect and neither is 300's low 60s rating. Btw I liked 300 as well.
To say that MOS and BvS are highly respected is simply not true, it's one thing to be an ardent Snyder fan but it's another to ignore facts. MOS and BvS divided critics and fans right in the middle and btw BvS the TC was also Snyder's work and that got a mighty 20 something percent approval from citics and remains to this day the record holder for the worst multiplier for any film to open over a 100 million in hollywood history!
I will say it again, no one can take away your enjoyment of Zack Snyder films and I never said that he doesn't respect comicbooks but don't let your overzealous support for Snyder blind you from the simple fact that the audience and critics have rejected his superhero films.
He must be the luckiest man in Hollywood to be given so many chances at the big comic characters if he has flop after flop after flop as you say.
You make it sound like Zac is f'ed no matter what he does.
He probably is the luckiest man in hollywood, because 5 other directors passed on MOS when approached by Chris Nolan, Zack was the only one who said yes, probably to save his failing career because when I said he had
back to back to back flops, I was referencing box office numbers and numbers don't lie even if you choose to ignore them.
When it comes to superhero films, yeah, Zack tend to s**t the bed, again it's not just me saying this, it's the critics, alot of the fans and most importantly the audience.
To say Zac did the same as beforeb shows you need to listen more because he's been criticized over and over for doing the opposite. Zac's Superman is nothing like Singer's Superman who is actually Donners Superman.
I don't need to
listen, what I did was actually watch SR and MOS and in my opinion Singer and Snyder's Superman were the same and again the whole Superman=jesus angle was started by Donner and then imitated by Singer and then imitated by Snyder, so Zack Superman isn't even remotely original.
Singer's Superman is
supposed to Donner's but he ended up very different, which is why STM was a massive hit and SR was massive disappointment. You can go read the reviews for SR to realize that most critics had an issue with how different Routh's Superman was to Reeve's and how muted the former was compared to the latter.
People complain about Superman not being hopefull and sad which somehow makes him Emo. Come on man.............................
To me and to - as you yourself said -
people Snyder's superman was mopey, emo, dialogue challenged and a nihilist (in BvS) and that is the opinion of the majority and no matter how hard you try you won't change my mind or the minds of those people, so just accept that we see Snyder's Superman differently and more negatively than you do, but that shouldn't take away from you liking Snyder's Superman.
Batman's a mary sue. Batman isn't that. Far from it. Batman is always been the most relatable of all the Superheroes because he's human. Everyone says that regardless that he's a billionaire. You can become Batman if you train hard enough and have endless money.
I think he is, a mary sue is a character that is so capable, it comes off as perfect and to me Batman is a genuis level billionare, who is one of the world's greatest fighters and the greatest athlete, detective and escape artist, not to mention he's been shown to know everything about science and has in the past beaten the likes of Darksied and the white martians and why Frank Miller and many batman fanboys like to argue that he can beat superman as well. All that to me makes Batman a Mary Sue and if you think that all one needs is money and hard training to become Batman in the real world then..............well honestly I don't know what to tell ya, maybe it's time to put down the comicbook and get out to the real world for alittle bit.