I disagree with a non white Cyclops. I'll never even consider it in my mind until god forbid it actually happens.
Months ago I was saying how I hope they only cast a dark skin Ororo and you went off on multiple post on how it was basically racist for me to suggest that and consider Alexandra Shipp feelings blah blah blah (may have been someone else a FOXMEN fan in this thread maybe but it was in this thread while back)
A large % of the GA didn't know black panther before his movie they didn't know any of his supporting cast. Shuri, Okoye, Nakia were definitely deep cuts alot of ppl still can't pronounce their names correctly. Obviously comic fans wanted them in the movie but marvel changed alot about them to fit the MCU. My thing is take frenzy, oya, Sunfire, Warpath etc and do the same thing.
I know you disagree with my conclusion, but I'm asking a question and you say "I disagree." Similarly, months ago I pointed out how dragging Shipp for being lightskinned was f'ed up, nothing about you being racist, nor about your desire for a dark skinned storm, much less me wanting a lightskinned Storm. And now, I'm examining diversity and you're imagining I said there was no diversity. I'm starting to think you don't read my posts so much as think about how you feel and then imagine that I said things that would justify those feelings.
As I've said before, the issue is not how known the characters are, but taking the "place" of more demanded characters, and how that affects the hype machine, as well as short circuiting stories built for other characters and how that affects the overall story. This is why you can't do the same thing with Frenzy, because Frenzy is "taking a spot" and Nakia is not. Frenzy is subverting certain X-Men stories that are built for other characters, and Nakia is not, so the same thing simply can't be done.
You clearly forgot Kwannon, Armor, Neal Shaara, M, Dust, Jubilee, Frenzy, Warpath, Thunderbird, Trinary, Surge, Wind Dancer, Indra, Gentle, Tag, Prodigy, Mirage, Sunspot to name a few.
Forget? No, I specifically mentioned, as you quoted, X-Men like Angel Salvadore, X-Men who are less developed, less important to the mythos, less demanded and ultimately who will be seen as "taking" a spot from a more "deserving" character. Expanding on what I said in later posts, while Dust is undoubtedly a member of the X-Men, the same reason Dust has never been on the main team in comics is the same reason why she won't be on the main team in films. She is supporting cast diversity, no different than what you see in Avengers.
There are similarly many diverse members of the extended roster of 100 Avengers: Rage and Echo, Amadeus Cho and Storm, Monica Rambeau, White Tiger, Power Man that's not Luke Cage, Blade, Blue Marvel, Nova, Pod, Synapse, Singularity and Sister Grimm. But we don't say the Avengers are "so diverse." Because we don't attribute the diversity of supporting teams and short-term members to the Avengers, we only look at the main Avengers team to determine how diverse the Avengers are. If you apply the same logic to the X-Men, they're not any more diverse, are they?
Race is a reductive concept. That's the problem.
Shouldn't they have kittens? If we are talking about gender and racial inclusion, isn't it time to change things regardless of hurt feelings?
No. Especially in entertainment, the idea of doing things regardless of hurt feelings is unprofitable, and moreover, unnecessary. You can change things as needed and still have an understanding, even empathy of people's hurt feelings and manage those. In this case, if the goal is to have more female representation, that is a kind of diversity that X-Men far outstrips any other superhero franchise at, so instead of replacing THE favorite X-Man Wolverine, it would accomplish your goal and also care for the most feelings to have a main team that is: Storm, Jean, Rogue, Psylocke, Wolverine and Jubilee. This is more marketable, implies more goodwill from the longstanding comics and so on and so forth.
Likewise, with raceshifting, there will definitely be ruffled feathers if Beast is an Indian guy, no doubt. There will be *more* ruffled feathers however if Beast is replaced by Neal Shaara ("WHO!?") and not just from racists, but people who care about the stories of the X-Men and Beast's position as the lovable furball uncle in them.
Just cuz you need to flip over the monopoly board doesn't mean you need to slap everyone at the table too.
