No Way Home Spider-Man: No Way Home Spoiler Discussion Thread

I very much LOVED this film.

I'm probably a little spider-biased as to a degree just because I love Spiderman and have since I saw him in the Electric Company along with the old '67 cartoons as a kid. All the movies, even the ones not as great I still find enjoyment in, but I feel this is my favorite live action Spider-Man film.

My favorite is still Spider-Man Into the Spider-verse, but this is very close to it.Who knows? My mind may change on it after a few years one way or the other, but for now for me that's where it is.
 
I found it funny that they cropped the frame when MJ and Peter were laying on the rooftop to hide his Air Jordans which showed in the trailer. For folks who watched it in IMAX, do you recall if his shoes were shown in frame?
 
It was a very natural, understated scene that introduced him in a good way without distracting from the film itself. I look forward to seeing more of him.

It will be interesting to see how he handles aliens in the future and his first interaction with Strange or Wong. Come to think if it, it's going to be interesting to see how these Netflix heroes interact with aliens, wizards and robots in the near future. Would they align with the Asgardians like Thor, Valkyrie, Korg and Miek as well as the Guardians, or would they think all aliens are bad no matter what?
 
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So, the Mysterio issue was resolved entirely by Strange's spell at the end, right? Since everyone forgets that Peter is Spider-Man, does that also mean everyone forgets about what happened London? Does everyone still think he killed Mysterio?
 
So, the Mysterio issue was resolved entirely by Strange's spell at the end, right? Since everyone forgets that Peter is Spider-Man, does that also mean everyone forgets about what happened London? Does everyone still think he killed Mysterio?

Hard to say. I think people know of the event Spidey vs Mysterio as people still know Spider-Man, his identity is just never revealed.
 
I thought Strange's reaction to Peter's physical body being able to evade Strange's attempts to grab the spell box even with after getting his astral form removed was pretty funny.
 
All I could think of when I was watching that last act.

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I think down the line the #1 thing NWH will be remembered for is it finally made Tom Holland Spider-Man. I think his movies are going to unite all the fandoms and make people excited for his future trilogy. SHH had become a ghost town about Spider-Man because most of the diehards did not like the direction the character had taken in the MCU.

No more:
- IronBoy Jr.
- Avenger Sidekick
- Technology/Privilege gets him out of everything
 
I think down the line the #1 thing NWH will be remembered for is it finally made Tom Holland Spider-Man. I think his movies are going to unite all the fandoms and make people excited for his future trilogy. SHH had become a ghost town about Spider-Man because most of the diehards did not like the direction the character had taken in the MCU.

No more:
- IronBoy Jr.
- Avenger Sidekick
- Technology/Privilege gets him out of everything
I remember I saw Far From Home and left feeling pretty cold and disinterested in what the future would bring for MCU Spidey despite the fun JK Simmons appearance, I probably said it a bunch around the time that I just thought the character was going too far off center at that point. I know supposedly the movie was supposed to move him away from the Stark connections but to me FFH only doubled down on those.

At some point I started getting some optimism that they would finally do some good dramatic stuff with the identity reveal at least and I'm happy to say they delivered on that end absolutely. They brought me back hook line and sinker with all the pre-MCU stuff and somehow managed to make me have a great time and become optimistic for the character's future again.

In a way it's like a grand plan to have their cake and eat it, they made some Spidey movies where the status quo was really integrated to the MCU in risky ways and made it into a big arc taking the character back to the basics. Maybe now that this iteration is a big success they can let him stand on his own more and rely less on the MCU connections and do em in more natural ways.
 
So while Tobey and Andrew clearly return to their original universe, do you guys think the villains the Peters cured ended up in an alternate version of Raimi/Webb worlds where they get redemption and things go differently? Like Harry and Gwen surviving, stuff like that?
 
I'm thinking ahead, but I think Black Cat would be a great new love interest for Hollands Spiderman in the future movies.

I really would like to see more low key antagonists like Spider Slayer, Scorpion, Kraven etc. No more space, or alternate realities. They've absolutely peaked now, and it can't be done better than NWH.
 
I have to say the fight in Happys apartment leading up to mays death was 10/10 epic. Might have finally beaten the train battle from SM2 for my favorite fight scene with Spider-Man.
 
It was more than likely scheduling problems + the pandemic. Ifans would've filmed just a scene anyways, and Church would've need to be on set for quite some time. Hence, the schedule problems. Voice acting can be done without even traveling.

Okay, so in the final battle with Strange casting the spell I could see Kraven and comic accurate Rhino. Anyone else got a glimpse of other villains?

Peter's apartment reminded me a lot of the one we saw in Raimi's films.

And I guess this movie finally confirms it. There is no uncle Ben in the MCU. And if there was, he was not that relevant to Peter's life. Maybe he even died before Peter started living with May.

Killing Aunt May is not something I'm loving. But I see the twist they wanted to go with.

Both Tony and May took the role of Ben. Tony taught Peter how to be Super. May taught him how to be a Hero.

Uncle Ben exists in the MCU, he's been SUBTLY referenced since Tom's Peter first met Tony in Civil War
 
I remember I saw Far From Home and left feeling pretty cold and disinterested in what the future would bring for MCU Spidey despite the fun JK Simmons appearance, I probably said it a bunch around the time that I just thought the character was going too far off center at that point. I know supposedly the movie was supposed to move him away from the Stark connections but to me FFH only doubled down on those.

At some point I started getting some optimism that they would finally do some good dramatic stuff with the identity reveal at least and I'm happy to say they delivered on that end absolutely. They brought me back hook line and sinker with all the pre-MCU stuff and somehow managed to make me have a great time and become optimistic for the character's future again.

In a way it's like a grand plan to have their cake and eat it, they made some Spidey movies where the status quo was really integrated to the MCU in risky ways and made it into a big arc taking the character back to the basics. Maybe now that this iteration is a big success they can let him stand on his own more and rely less on the MCU connections and do em in more natural ways.
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I wonder what people who haven't seen the Raimi and Webb movies think about this? I have a feeling that they don't find it as good. The old characters appearing is one of the main reasons why I like this so much.

At this point the MCU is so heavily built on needing to watch a ton of previous movies to fully understand and appreciate everything...what's five more movies gonna hurt?
 
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They missed a great gag in my opinion. It would have been awesome to have Tobey react to J. Jonah Jameson being the same guy, and then have Andrew confirm that his version is also the same. Jameson is just a constant in the multiverse.
 
Something I really thought was going to happen but didn't end up happening was Mysterio being revealed to have survived the events of Far From Home and faked his own death to become the sixth villain in the pseudo "Sinister Six" that this movie almost had.

They weren't going for a Sinister 6 type thing, they were going for a "one villain from each pre MCU movie" type thing.

SM1 = Green Goblin
SM2 = Doc Ock
SM3 = Sandman
ASM = Lizard
ASM2 = Electro

If they brought in Mysterio then they'd also need to bring in Vulture, because then it'd be about having a villain from every Spider-man movie period.
 
That ending really reminded me of the opening to the video game. Good close out to the movie.
I couldn't really get a good enough look at the new suit at the end but it reminded me of the "classic suit" from the game.

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Speaking of the game, Tom Holland said that they borrowed a move from the game for the movie, and I think I caught what it was during his final fight with Norman when he pulled him down with his webs and kneed him in the face.

So I take it Wong went off to fight in that tournament we saw in Shang Chi?
I said this in another thread but Wong being revealed as the Sorcerer Supreme because Strange died in the blip was a big surprise to me. He really could have come in handy for the time heist in Endgame but I guess he was too busy fighting in underground tournaments. :o

They weren't going for a Sinister 6 type thing, they were going for a "one villain from each pre MCU movie" type thing.

SM1 = Green Goblin
SM2 = Doc Ock
SM3 = Sandman
ASM = Lizard
ASM2 = Electro

If they brought in Mysterio then they'd also need to bring in Vulture, because then it'd be about having a villain from every Spider-man movie period.
I knew what they were going for, which is why I said "pseudo" Sinister Six, also because Doc Ock had already turned good again well before the final battle so it was more like a Sinster Three and a Half at that point, with Sandman being the half. But I also would have liked to see Vulture again. I know that he, or some variant of him, will be back in Morbius, but there did seem like there was unfinished business with him and Scorpion going all the way back to the post credits scene from Homecoming.
 
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