Eternals The Eternals General Disscussion and Speculation thread

[Xeno]

I gave the trailer a 10. It was instantly clear what Feige meant when he said that Zhao had beautifully composed every shot in-camera as opposed to using green screen and CGI. The sets looked organic and lived-in, which is somewhat unique in the genre. The costumes were excellent interpretations of Kirby's artwork.

While I understand that some people were disappointed that we weren't shown more details, I rather appreciated that. Too many trailers reveal every little thing about the plots of movies, which is irritating. There will be other trailers and TV spots galore to blow all of the Eternals' secrets. I'm happy to wait and enjoy the mystery for now.

**Ahem. I thought this was the Rate the Trailer thread. Will repost this there.

 

[Xeno]

I like how they say they've never interfered and literally show them interfering with early humans and continuing to do so throughout the ages.

And I really wanna know why they didn't fight Thanos. Did they have something better to do when Thanos was trying to strip the universe down to its atoms?

I took it that Ajak was saying that they had never interfered before doing so with the primitive people seen when that angular ship landed. And after that point, thousands(?) of years ago, they continued to interact with humanity regularly.

There are any number of possible reasons why the Eternals didn't go after Thanos. For one thing, the main host of the Celestials, who created and to some extent control the Eternals, might have forbidden their interference. Celestials are enigmatic, godlike beings who have motives and goals that are beyond the understanding of lesser creatures. Perhaps they didn't care enough to allow interference, or perhaps they foresaw that it would be unnecessary in the long run.

 

[Rice Eater]

I interpreted the "interfere" part as in they didn't choose sides or partake in fights among humans. In order to guide humans along they kind of have to actually do something instead of just watching us.

But even though they've been there to witness countless wars and atrocities throughout thousands of years, they never stepped foot on battle for one side or another. I'm guessing that witnessing these things happen countless times throughout human history will probably lead to them losing their memories or just not caring anymore for a pretty long time.

 

[Dark Raven]

For them to interfere now and continue to have adventures, won't they always need world-ending events and villains with stakes greater than Infinity War/ Endgame? That means they're setting the movie up for a huge threat, and if it isn't anywhere on that level (which it probably won't be) then that will be... I was going to say disappointing, but it will more likely be unsurprising and expected.

 

[Deck Rickard]

People on another site said the same thing. It didn't bother me because I've never seen the opening of Prometheus. I always manage to catch the hilarious parts, tho. Those idiot geologists who played with the genital snake always crack me up. And watching two supposedly intelligent women run in a straight line from a rolling donut-ship is pure gold.

Oh yeah, there is so much moronic stuff in that movie. I think if you just basically accept that it’s a Hostel movie set in space (with stupid Americans replaced by stupid humans) it’s probably a more enjoyable watch than if you try to take it seriously. The next one was even worse; it was basically Sleepaway Camp or Friday the 13th on an alien planet. They really need to stop making Alien movies. It’s done.

 

[Tallgu]

For them to interfere now and continue to have adventures, won't they always need world-ending events and villains with stakes greater than Infinity War/ Endgame? That means they're setting the movie up for a huge threat, and if it isn't anywhere on that level (which it probably won't be) then that will be... I was going to say disappointing, but it will more likely be unsurprising and expected.

Could it be that they’re defying a Celestial from wiping out Earth? That is a pretty huge threat, I guess.

 

[JB33]

Not you personally but on Instagram and Twitter there are Tons of people genuinely angry at Marvel and the Eternals concept but "Theres no point why didn't they help"

The Google thing is directed at those people because while the MCU isn't 100 percent an adaptation they adhere to a few major plot points and it stands to reason the Eternals being stopped by the celestials or either the Eternals having amnesia would make sense as to why they didnt help.

Gotcha. Yeah I only have Twitter so I guess I'm not fully aware of the range of reactions across social media.

 

[JB33]

The subjective nature of art is truly a bizarre thing sometimes. I'm usually pretty harsh on movies and their trailers and I loved this. It's not that the teaser itself was amazing but it did its job in terms of introducing another corner of the MCU. Showing them arriving on Earth in the ancient times of early humans was neat. Besides some scenes in Thor the furthest back we've gone in history in the MCU is WWII in Captain America: The First Avenger. There's also that one WandaVision opening scene showing Agatha Harkness' origins too but you get the idea.

 

[imbruglia]

obviously celesticial will be the big threat and why Eternals will step in..

 

[Deck Rickard]

The subjective nature of art is truly a bizarre thing sometimes. I'm usually pretty harsh on movies and their trailers and I loved this. It's not that the teaser itself was amazing but it did its job in terms of introducing another corner of the MCU. Showing them arriving on Earth in the ancient times of early humans was neat. Besides some scenes in Thor the furthest back we've gone in history in the MCU is WWII in Captain America: The First Avenger. There's also that one WandaVision opening scene showing Agatha Harkness' origins too but you get the idea.

Yeah I liked that too. I hope a good chunk of the movie takes place in the ancient past because visually I think that stuff will be the most interesting. Babylon looks amazing in the trailer.

 

[Michael Shaw]

I want to like Eternals, but the teaser has left me disappointed. Marvel has always been most successful when it focuses on characters. My favorite MCU films are Iron Man, Captain America:Winter Soldier and GOTG. I also have liked Wandavision and Falcon and Winter Soldier for focusing on characters that have not got as much focus in the MCU so far. I can't deny that Eternals is a very pretty film. That seems to be what everyone is gushing about. The rest seems hollow based on the teaser. I watched the other Marvel teasers and it was the weakest IMO. Characters seems to be taking a backseat to the history lesson Chloe Zhao wants to tell as well as the visuals. The characters appeared either interchangeable or relied on a stereotype to make them stand out such as the eternal who was a bollywood star. The characters appeared patronizing, cold, and self-righteous. They may have been this way in the comics, but it makes it hard to connect with them. In a cast of ten eternals it is a bit odd that none of them stood out in the first trailer which does not bode well for the film. The first GOTG teaser trailer by contrast really got me excited about that team and their dynamic. Outside of the great cinematography of the Eternal teaser, there doesn't seem to be much else. Does anyone else feel that way? I know it is a teaser but it highlights the focus of the film which is less focused on the characters which is a shame.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Wow...

Got some Olympic level jumping to conclusions based on so very little.

 

[Kane52630]

I can't wait to revisit that post when the movie comes out.

 

[Silvermoth]

Ha, once someone posted some old posts when Robert Downey jnr was first cast as iron man and there was all these peeps saying “this is going to be a disaster”. It’s funny after all these years every movie is still met with “oh this could never work”

 

[TeeKay]

I want to like Eternals, but the teaser has left me disappointed. Marvel has always been most successful when it focuses on characters. My favorite MCU films are Iron Man, Captain America:Winter Soldier and GOTG. I also have liked Wandavision and Falcon and Winter Soldier for focusing on characters that have not got as much focus in the MCU so far. I can't deny that Eternals is a very pretty film. That seems to be what everyone is gushing about. The rest seems hollow based on the teaser. I watched the other Marvel teasers and it was the weakest IMO. Characters seems to be taking a backseat to the history lesson Chloe Zhao wants to tell as well as the visuals. The characters appeared either interchangeable or relied on a stereotype to make them stand out such as the eternal who was a bollywood star. The characters appeared patronizing, cold, and self-righteous. They may have been this way in the comics, but it makes it hard to connect with them. In a cast of ten eternals it is a bit odd that none of them stood out in the first trailer which does not bode well for the film. The first GOTG teaser trailer by contrast really got me excited about that team and their dynamic. Outside of the great cinematography of the Eternal teaser, there doesn't seem to be much else. Does anyone else feel that way? I know it is a teaser but it highlights the focus of the film which is less focused on the characters which is a shame.

While I agree the teaser was meh. How the hell did you get this from just the teaser trailer?

 

[Asharad]

Ha, once someone posted some old posts when Robert Downey jnr was first cast as iron man and there was all these peeps saying “this is going to be a disaster”. It’s funny after all these years every movie is still met with “oh this could never work”

Many people thought GOTG was the beginning of the end, based on the teaser. A talking racoon and a walking tree? Nobody will watch that crap.

 

[Michael Shaw]

While I agree the teaser was meh. How the hell did you get this from just the teaser trailer?

Marvel trailers typically reflect the quality of the end film. GOTG and Iron Man trailers excited me. Marvel has never released a mediocre trailer to a good movie so far IMO. I watched the Captain Marvel trailer and I was not impressed besides the cat, skrulls, and Samuel L Jackson. The titular character was boring in the trailer and was boring in the final movie which is a problem. No fault to Brie Larson. I think she did an excellent job in Room and Scott Pilgrim. I think the material is just hard to film. The amnesia plot was stupid. Since Captain Marvel doesn't know who she is neither does the audience. I've heard that Neil Gaiman also did something similar with the Eternals. If the Eternals haven't acted till now because they forgot they were superpowered beings and that is the main conflict of the film I doubt most people will be happy. Loki did many of these tropes better. The TVA had amnesia of who they were but the fact that Mobius used to be a regular person and may have enjoyed jetskiiing was executed well and made him relatable. The TVA was overpowered, but they still had conflict with the variants who were able to kill them and the psychological conflict of who they were. Loki was done over 5 hours and it followed a character we were already familiar with. Eternals is shorter with characters we've never met before.

The Eternals should have been introduced sooner so it felt more organic or introduced in a tv series where they had more time to flesh them out. To make this movie good is challenging and I hope Marvel succeeds. To be successful this movie has to make us care about these overpowered space people and make us understand why they didn't stop Thanos from wrecking havoc when he is related to the deviants, the villains of the film. They have to cover the span of thousands of years in a few hours, without dumping a ton of exposition. They also have to make villains that are credible enough to justify their inaction till now. If it is like Thor the Dark World where the deviants have no personality and are just CGI aliens who want to destroy the universe for no reason it won't work well. I think this movie is too ambitious for it's own sake and is flying too close to the sun. I could be wrong, but I was right about Captain Marvel.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

 

[Pennywise]

FREE GUY and ETERNALS Will Be Theatrical Exclusives - Nerdist

 

[Albright]

…right now

 

[Dr. Evil]

…right now

Well Free Guy will be released this Friday. If they had announced it was also going to streaming, they would have done that already.

 

[Albright]

still 3 months to go…

 

[Dr. Evil]

still 3 months to go…

It will either be delayed or streaming barring a miracle.

Free Guy is good to go.

 

[psylockolussus]

Unless something really disastrous happens neXt month and Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings completely flops especially with people's hesitancy to go to theaters because of the Delta Variant, there could be a delay.

Also with Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings out in a few weeks, I am eXpecting the neXt trailer for Eternals to be out very soon!

 

[Dr. Evil]

Makkari is the one new character I am looking forward to the most because she will give the MCU something that they have needed since Joss Whedon killed off OG Pietro (and Ralph Bohner doesn't count): a speedster. It's a powerset we need to see in the MCU.....that and teleportation.