Discussion: The REPUBLICAN Party - - Part 17

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Sore loser laws and ballot access are gonna hurt him if he waits til the convention to go 3rd party.

I wonder if that group America Elects is still around, they basically get ballot access in all 50 states then nominate somebody by online poll(I believe). If Trump needs an easy way to gain ballot access he can just do that and if their is sore loser laws in some states he can just have people vote for his VP in those states

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_Elect
 
I wonder if that group America Elects is still around, they basically get ballot access in all 50 states then nominate somebody by online poll(I believe). If Trump needs an easy way to gain ballot access he can just do that and if their is sore loser laws in some states he can just have people vote for his VP in those states

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_Elect


No, they are not around.

Rightnow the LP has 31 state ballot access. Find link later but it was on a new CNBC article about Gary Johnson today I saw on Facebook. Thought it was 35 to begin with. Should be 50 by November. Think 2012 was 48 plus D.C.
 
Sore loser laws and ballot access are gonna hurt him if he waits til the convention to go 3rd party.

If Republicans want to go to a third party and start one because of Trump...they have no choice but to support the LP. It be cost effective. You wait until the convention rather you are Trump or a disgruntled GOP...I doubt you get on more than 20-30 ballots.

The Republican leadership arent going to support the Libertarian Party.

They wont go along with the LP's stances on civil liberties, trade, drug, church and state, non interventionism etc
 
We need a party for centrists...
 
We need a party for centrists...

We do, they are called Democrats. In all seriousness though, Obama and Clinton would pretty much be center right in most European countries which is why the left wing socialist tag Obama gets called so often is so ridiculous.
 
I'm actually very surprised the moderates of the big two didn't band together to form their own party to distance themselves from their more radical counterparts.



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We need a party for centrists...

Moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans should ban together and form a Pragmatic Party.

But I'm not sure how they would agree on divisive issues like abortion, gun control, climate change, welfare, etc.
 
Trump isnt left, center, or right. Trump is Trump of the Trump Party.
 
Trunp isnt left, cent, or right. Trump is Trump of the Trump Party.

I'd say he's far right.

Look at the rhetoric of any far right political group in Europe and it will sound alot like Trump.
 
Republican Leaders Map a Strategy to Derail Donald Trump

Republican leaders adamantly opposed to Donald J. Trump’s candidacy are preparing a 100-day campaign to deny him the presidential nomination, starting with an aggressive battle in Wisconsin’s April 5 primary and extending into the summer, with a delegate-by-delegate lobbying effort that would cast Mr. Trump as a calamitous choice for the general election.

Recognizing that Mr. Trump has seized a formidable advantage in the race, they say that an effort to block him would rely on an array of desperation measures, the political equivalent of guerrilla fighting.

There is no longer room for error or delay, the anti-Trump forces say, and without a flawlessly executed plan of attack, he could well become unstoppable.

But should that effort falter, leading conservatives are prepared to field an independent candidate in the general election, to defend Republican principles and offer traditional conservatives an alternative to Mr. Trump’s hard-edged populism. They described their plans in interviews after Mr. Trump’s victories last Tuesday in Florida and three other states.


Former Gov. Rick Perry of Texas speaking last month at an event in San Antonio before Senator Ted Cruz took the stage. Some prominent Republicans have considered Mr. Perry as a possible independent candidate for the general election if Mr. Trump receives the party’s presidential nomination.

The names of a few well-known conservatives have been offered up in recent days as potential third-party standard-bearers, and William Kristol, editor of The Weekly Standard, has circulated a memo to a small number of conservative allies detailing the process by which an independent candidate could get on general-election ballots across the country.


Among the recruits under discussion are Tom Coburn, a former Oklahoma senator who has told associates that he would be open to running, and Rick Perry, the former Texas governor who was suggested as a possible third-party candidate at a meeting of conservative activists on Thursday in Washington.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/2...ders-donald-trump_us_56eda4bfe4b084c67220721a

Well, I didnt see that coming. I thought theyd pick Cruz if they decided to run someone third party to fight Trump. I didnt expect them to pick someone that isnt even involved in the primaries.
 
As a matter of expedience, the Republicans should get behind Cruz. If Cruz is the solution, however, it may fairly be reflected that the problems could be insoluble.
 
Wait... Rick Perry is on the short list? Damn I can see many older Texan voters swinging to him.
 
As a matter of expedience, the Republicans should get behind Cruz. If Cruz is the solution, however, it may fairly be reflected that the problems could be insoluble.

The GOP and establishment doesn't like Cruz much more than they like Trump.

The party is about to be broken into three.
 
Running a proxy candidate seems like a lot of money to waste just to make Hilary Clinton president. Why doesn't the Republican establishment just call the presidential election a loss, and just whiff it, and concentrate their resources on strengthening their house and senate standing?
 
How tone deaf are these Republicans? 30 years of breeding mistrust that government is the problem and now they think they can "lecture" about true Conservatism by simply running any Tom, Rick, or ....?
 
How could they be so stupid as to just pull a random guy out of a hat. And even more so, stupid enough to even consider Rick freaking Perry. Even if they can't get a brokered convention, surely Kasich is better suited to representing the GOP than Perry! :facepalm:
 
So basically it would be like what it was 104 years ago when the Republicans split in half between supporters of Teddy Roosevelt (The Bull Moose Party) and the supporters of America's fattest President, William Howard Taft.

And we all know who won that election
 
So basically it would be like what it was 104 years ago when the Republicans split in half between supporters of Teddy Roosevelt (The Bull Moose Party) and the supporters of America's fattest President, William Howard Taft.

And we all know who won that election

Eugene V. Debs! No-er wait...
 
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