Discussion: The REPUBLICAN Party - Part 16

[Lily Adler]

Okay Captain America Jr., whatever you say.

Pfft. You Canucks think cause you gave us Celine, Bieber, and Maple Syrup that you can school us in the American legal system. Puh-LEAAAAZE!

 

[summerteeth]

The brokered convention won't happen and if it does and the "establishment" gets their way by plugging some random fool as their candidate instead, the Republican party is absolutely dead. Trump supporters will not vote for anyone else. They will skip out on the election and some will probably vote for Clinton/Sanders out of pure spite.

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No it won't be. The majority of Republicans don't support Trump. 63% voted for someone other than Trump. 45% of registered Republicans say they won't support Trump if he gets the nomination that is more than the Republicans that are voting for Trump. Some of Trump's 37% supporters won't vote but no sizable amount will vote for Clinton out of spite. A large number of his supporters are people that usually don't vote anyways or weren't part of the Republican Party prior to this election.

 

[AnneFan]

Like it or not, The Republicans better get on board because Trump will be their guy. Rubio and Cruz are absolute idiots for desperately attacking like this. Do they really think Trump won't be the candidate? They sure as hell won't be. Let the Democrats attack Trump.

 

[enterthemadness]

Like it or not, The Republicans better get on board because Trump will be their guy. Rubio and Cruz are absolute idiots for desperately attacking like this. Do they really think Trump won't be the candidate? They sure as hell won't be. Let the Democrats attack Trump.

This can be a amazing time for the Libertarian Party. Nice chance to get some press. Hell, a MSNBC article mentioned how the Libertarian and Constitution Parties could get Republicans later this year. The best bet is Libertarians if they do get rhat projected 50 state ballot access or damn close to it again and if Johnson is nominee again.

Trump isnt good for the GOP and this is why you are getting whispers of people going to 3rd parties thus year. It does not mean a 3rd party will do good this year, but I think the Libertarians will crack 1% finally. Got 0.99% on 1.275 Million in 2012. It really depends if GOP donors are gonna make sizeable donations to the LP out of desperation. Theres not mych point in donating if a 3rd party cant get that pesky 15% in 3-5 polls. You could rusk just having one poll say 5-10% and end up getting 2-3% in the election.

Now 5% for a 3rd party in the election is a guarentee...I think $20 million in tax payer funds for next Presidential election. Or its matching funds up to that amount?

Its just a nice scenario. I'm only expecting 1-2 million votes for LP, I think thats reasonable.

 

[Victarion]

Why didn't McCain make another run? Seems like a military type would be the best option to pit against the Donald, as opposed to someone who's easier to attack like Romney.

 

[Clark-Kent]

Why didn't McCain make another run? Seems like a military type would be the best option to pit against the Donald, as opposed to someone who's easier to attack like Romney.

McCain would be 80 by the time he takes office for a FIRST term, and that's pretty old for a President to be able to handle the long haul. A second term may not even be possible either at 84 depending on health.

 

[Marvolo]

Considering how much a president ages in a 4 year term (pretty much 1 year as President is equivalent to 10 normal years) McCain wouldn't survive his first term.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

POTUS is one job they couldn't pay me enough to take.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I don't even like Bush and I was worried about him.

Check out FDR after 12 years...

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Considering how much a president ages in a 4 year term (pretty much 1 year as President is equivalent to 10 normal years) McCain wouldn't survive his first term.

It's not just the job though, it's the age they are when taking office and the age when leaving it. Obama was still in his 40's when taking office and now is 54 years old That time frame in aging it's not uncommon to see big differences in anyone I'd think.

 

[Marvolo]

I don't even like Bush and I was worried about him.

Check out FDR after 12 years...

Lincoln 1860 and 1865

 

[TheComicbookKid]

So what would happen to the Republican party if they denied Trump and his supporters? The Clinton boogeyman won't last forever. How can they possible make voters believe that their vote matters enough to vote for them ?

 

[Lily Adler]

Good question. This could have ramifications that will last longer than this election.

 

[Kelly]

IMO, if Trump wins the nomination (oh how I hate even typing his name), they (the GOP establishment) need to go through the motions of the convention. Simply stay silent, and let him ride this train. They need to bank all of their money for their next run in 4 years, give him rope....and let him hang himself as they stay silent. The other candidates need to back away from all of this, and allow the American people to speak through their vote. HE needs the vote of the majority of the Republican voters and he will not get it because most have gone home, shut their doors, and moved away from the craziness....those that are left are the radical few and they will not be enough to get him into the White House. Hilary or Bernie need to stay above it all and let Trump tear himself apart. He will before this is all over...YES the Republican party will once again lose, but they may be able to hold together. The leadership needs to pull the remaining candidates aside and tell them to SHUT THE HELL UP. Cruz of course won't, but let him hang himself right along with Trump.

 

[Thundercrack85]

If a quarter of the party votes for Trump, and another quarter votes for Cruz, and you want neither or the people that support them, do you really have a party?

It's not like Trump will lose and go away. Or his supporters.

The Republicans spent the last 20 years giving these people a platform (Sarah Palin, Fox News, courting the evangelicals, etc)... they're not going to go away. We've been building towards this. It nearly happened in 2012. It's happened.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Trump is pandering to the racists now, but he'll disappoint them if he takes office. I explained my reason for that in the Trump thread.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I predict if Trump gets pushed out of the nomination the far right might push a third party.

If Trump gets the nomination but loses the general far right domestic terrorism will become a much bigger problem. They'll be so pissed having their dream of a racist President snatched away they'll revolt.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Trump will probably run as an independent if he feels "cheated" out of the nomination.

Though honestly, the establishment is so worried about Trump, they seem to be forgetting the alternative: Cruz.

With that prospect, maybe they should just accept Trump.

Jeb and a 150 million dollars are gone, and Rubio is fighting for third place.

 

[SV Fan]

Jeb and a 150 million dollars are gone, and Rubio is fighting for third place.

Rubio is winning where is counts. Minnesota where they rejected Reagan twice and seems like he will win Puerto Rico.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Rubio is winning where is counts. Minnesota where they rejected Reagan twice and seems like he will win Puerto Rico.

Now if he just takes Guam he'll clinch the nomination.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

The Republicans spent the last 20 years giving these people a platform (Sarah Palin, Fox News, courting the evangelicals, etc)... they're not going to go away. We've been building towards this. It nearly happened in 2012. It's happened.

The Frankenstein analogy was so on point.

An obstructionist, outsider who doesn't care about "facts" and goes with his gut and hates his government giving away his country to foreigners. With a catchy slogan reminiscing about past greatest.

Trump is all those pieces put together and they hate it.

 

[SV Fan]

The Frankenstein analogy was so on point.

An obstructionist, outsider who doesn't care about "facts" and goes with his gut and hates his government giving away his country to foreigners. With a catchy slogan reminiscing about past greatest.

Trump is all those pieces put together and they hate it.

According to Bobby Jindal, Trump is Obama's fault. So much for Republican personal responsibility.

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/03/bobby_jindal_in_wall_street_jo.html

Bobby Jindal in Wall Street Journal: Blame Obama for Trump

The political rise of Donald Trump is the fault of President Barack Obama's leadership flaws, former Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal wrote
in a Wall Street Journal opinion piece (subscription required).

"Let's be honest: There would be no Donald Trump, dominating the political scene today if it were not for President Obama," Jindal opined in an WSJ essay posted Thursday evening (March 3).

 

[Thundercrack85]

This party lol.

Do you guys remember the 2012 election "autopsy"? About how they lost in part because of their rhetoric towards minorities (especially Hispanics), and how they should get their heads out of their own asses, and listen to people outside the party.

The lack of introspection this party has is quite astounding.

 

[Lily Adler]

So the TL;DR:

 

[TheComicbookKid]

This party lol.

Do you guys remember the 2012 election "autopsy"? About how they lost in part because of their rhetoric towards minorities (especially Hispanics), and how they should get their heads out of their own asses, and listen to people outside the party.

The lack of introspection this party has is quite astounding.

I mean, it feels like we should have 3 parties going on now, but the Republicans are fighting so hard to hold onto past greatness(ironic) of Reagan and Lincoln even though they've been acting like a smaller party for at least the past decade since the Tea Party rose up.

At this point, they seem like they'd be more effective as two smaller parties that basically shape the Progressive agenda. Democrats were, at least under Obama, still willing to bend over backwards to compromise instead of jamming an actual Progressive agenda down their throats.