Matt Reeves To Direct The Upcoming Batman Solo

[The Guard]

Having Gotham so close to Metropolis makes it feel like Batman will never be in danger if Superman is always within earshot or a 2-5 second flight away.

Well, at the moment, Superman is dead.

And what about when Superman is doing what Superman has been shown to be doing, which is saving lives and dealing with disasters all over the world? Is he going to stop dealing with said disaster to go help Batman, who he may not even now is in danger?

It's a moot point, because if the writers want Batman to be in danger with Superman not showing up to save him, then that's what will happen.

 

[MbJ]

Saw War for the Planet of the Apes. This movie is in the best possible hands.

 

[idiot09]

It would move Reeves's Batman away from Snyder's divisive take, which would be a good thing. Worked for Diana, it'd work for Bruce.

Bro, we both know this aint true for Wonder Woman. One can say Superman was divisive or hated in BvS and he will be right, one can argue Batman was divisive in BvS and be true, but Wonder Woman was the bright spot in that movie for most people. People and critics liked her in the role, she was nominated for some awards(not oscars but you get my point) for BvS. She was popular, and thats one reason why people were excited for her movie. And she built on that, and became even more popular and liked with her own solo movie in Wonder Woman. And it was not like Snyder didnt have a hand in that movie either. He and his wife produced it,and he co-wrote the story. It was 100% Patty Jenkin's film tho, I'm just saying they didnt move away from it or something. They are telling a single story of her journey. Its a collaboration.

Now why am I saying this? Because I 100% expect and WANT Matt Reeves to do his own thing with Batman. Thats what he did with Apes franchise. Rise was a commercially and critically succesful reboot which no one expected to do well, and still he took a risk and changed stuff because thats what he wanted to do. I mean thats what he does, and thats his thing, and tbh thats what DC has been promising us. Directors coming in and doing their thing, executing their unique vision(doesnt always work out, like with Famuwiya).

I dont think there's gonna be a recast though. I dont think they are focusing on a trilogy, I think the focus is just this movie, and then figuring out what to do later.

 

[FunkMiller]

Bro, we both know this aint true for Wonder Woman. One can say Superman was divisive or hated in BvS and he will be right, one can argue Batman was divisive in BvS and be true, but Wonder Woman was the bright spot in that movie for most people. People and critics liked her in the role, she was nominated for some awards(not oscars but you get my point) for BvS. She was popular, and thats one reason why people were excited for her movie. And she built on that, and became even more popular and liked with her own solo movie in Wonder Woman. And it was not like Snyder didnt have a hand in that movie either. He and his wife produced it,and he co-wrote the story. It was 100% Patty Jenkin's film tho, I'm just saying they didnt move away from it or something. They are telling a single story of her journey. Its a collaboration.

Now why am I saying this? Because I 100% expect and WANT Matt Reeves to do his own thing with Batman. Thats what he did with Apes franchise. Rise was a commercially and critically succesful reboot which no one expected to do well, and still he took a risk and changed stuff because thats what he wanted to do. I mean thats what he does, and thats his thing, and tbh thats what DC has been promising us. Directors coming in and doing their thing, executing their unique vision(doesnt always work out, like with Famuwiya).

I dont think there's gonna be a recast though. I dont think they are focusing on a trilogy, I think the focus is just this movie, and then figuring out what to do later.

I guess I was making reference to the fact that Reeves could well be moving Batman away from Snyder's take, as BvS was reviled by the majority, in the same way that Diana very much stands alone in her solo movie, with very few links to BvS. My choice of wording was poor though, for that, apologies.

 

[idiot09]

I guess I was making reference to the fact that Reeves could well be moving Batman away from Snyder's take, as BvS was reviled by the majority, in the same way that Diana very much stands alone in her solo movie, with very few links to BvS. My choice of wording was poor though, for that, apologies.

No probs! Well like I said, with Dawn Reeves showed that he doesnt care what the previous movie(Rise) did commercially and critically(it was a hit on both accounts), he just did his thing. I dont think he is gonna worry too much about the previous movies, for the sake of it. He is just gonna approach it the way he wants to.

And btw I think Wonder Woman's standalone nature was enforced by the fact it took place 100 years before the rest of the movies.Even if we ignore the bookends and the photo connection...I do remember reading somewhere that Zack Snyder was the one who suggested changing the setting from World War 2 to World War 1.

BTW do you want to see the Batfamily in the movie? If so, how many members? Nightwing? Any robins? Tim Drake? Damian? Redhood?

 

[FunkMiller]

BTW do you want to see the Batfamily in the movie? If so, how many members? Nightwing? Any robins? Tim Drake? Damian? Redhood?

That's a tricky one really, because it all comes down to the kind of story Reeves wants to tell, and the kind of Batman he wants to present.

Also, the film doesn't want to get too bogged down with back story, so introducing a large bat family might become too onerous, story-wise.

I think Dick will be referenced, or even make an appearance in the movie, especially as we're getting a Nightwing film. Same goes for Babs, obviously. After all, the audience is very familiar with both already, so it won't take too much exposition to have them in it.

There can be passing reference to Jason's death again, but I'd baulk a bit at trying to crowbar in Red Hood, Damian or Tim, as I could see the thing just getting bogged down in explaining who the hell they all are. The Batman needs a clean, concise, stand-alone story I think, that'll be accessible to the whole audience.

If Red Hood were to be used, it'd have to be in a future movie after this one. I don't think Tim or Damian will get a look in though. Tim is really too similar to Dick in many ways, and to have Damian means getting into Bruce's history with Talia and Ra's, and that'd just get too unwieldy.

So, I see Dick and Babs referenced, but we're probably looking at Batman being largely on his own with Alfred again in Wayne Manor. The nature of movie making rather precludes an extended family with years upon years of history to work through.

That's why one day I'd still like to see a TV version of Batman done, where this stuff can be better explored over a longer timescale. Make it an Elseworlds story, where each season is a different Batman, starting with Bruce decades ago, and following the family as they grow and change.

 

[idiot09]

It never made sense to me in new 52 where Batman is supposed to be 30 years old, but still had 4 Robins by then. Lolwut?

Same for me. Hoping for references to Batgirl and Jason Todd. Would love for Nightwing to appear in a small role.

My ideal movie would be Batman investigating, to find out Deathstroke is the one behind it, then Nightwing gets involved because of his past with Deathstroke, and then between all these, Batman suddenly realises they have all been played by the Joker.

 

[Boom]

Assuming a best case scenario and we get a trilogy out of this, I'd like Batman's arc to be one of reparation. I would have Barbara and Dick estranged from Bruce after his post-MOS breakdown, and Bruce makes an effort to try and mend those relationships.

 

[NotNickFury]

Slightly related, but given that we know next to nothing about the Nightwing project, it will be interesting to learn exactly when in the timeline it takes place or, as some have said, what his relationship with Bruce will be like.

 

[Greenlite]

I'd be interested in which movie Barbara will get injured, Matt's movie or Joss' movie? If they decide to do it, without going overboard.

If they are doing the Jason Todd incident, I'd leave Barbara's injury to her own movie, unrelated to Batman, otherwise it makes Batman look really awful having lost Jason THEN got Barbara paralyzed.

In the first movie, I would have Bruce working with Alfred, Barbara and Gordon on a case early on, and they capture a really athletic and smart thug called Jason in the process, they end up recruiting him, and together they investigate Riddler's works, they win at the end, and the movie will build on Bruce's mentoring of Jason and Barbara, his relationship with Alfred and Gordon, and flashbacks of his parents to build who he is and his parents influence on his personality/do good attitudes. Harvey Dent's also there to finish off cases in court, but as a cameo type of role. Barbara graduate from the team to start her own solo career, leading to Batgirl the movie.

In the sequel I'd have the Joker killing Jason Todd early on, resulting in a Batman on revenge. He works together with Alfred, Harvey Dent and Gordon hunting the Joker, with Alfred/Gordon been like Maurice in Apes series as Bruce's moral compass. Selina plays Bruce's romantic interest and trying to understand Bruce. Though this one might play out too much like TDK lol

The 3rd one I'd have a spy thriller where Penguin is trying to run the city, Batman, Harvey and Gordon tries to take him, and they use Catwoman as a spy into Penguin's organization, but their plans kept on getting leaked, at the end Harvey's revealed to be the mole working with Penguin, using his knowledge of the system and connections, and he was already corrupted and severely injured mentally and physically sometime in the last, or early in this film.

Just some fan fiction there for fun, but I think an emotional detective/spy thriller series might be very interesting from Matt Reeves craft.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

That's why one day I'd still like to see a TV version of Batman done, where this stuff can be better explored over a longer timescale. Make it an Elseworlds story, where each season is a different Batman, starting with Bruce decades ago, and following the family as they grow and change.

Astonishing isn't it, that we haven't had a live-action Batman TV series since the days of Adam West*. Yes, so long as it didn't become 'Bat-soap' I'd be up for it. Not sure about the Elseworlds aspect, but definitely explore deeper, more complex arcs that require the timescale that a TV run can provide.


*Gotham doesn't count - I'm talking about a series that follows Batman.

 

[TheRedWraith]

If they want to do Red Hood though (and I want them to) then they need to set up his death now so that it isn't glaringly obvious when they show it in the movie with the mystery figure who seems to know Batman's moves inside and out. Obviously it would need to be woven in organically like if one were doing a court of owls adaption you put it in the labyrinth sequence along with other traumatic memories.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

What does everyone feel about Affleck's script being scrapped? I do usually like directors to be allowed to build their vision from the ground up, but I wonder if it means Affleck's script was ****. That's a bit troublesome to me considering he worked on it with Terrio and John's. Terrio I had a lot of faith in prior to BvS, but if it was garbage and Johns had his hands in it...that to me is concerning. Since he's supposed to be overseeing the DCEU, I'd think he'd be the right man for the job, but... writing comics and translating that to film is clearly more difficult than anticipated.

 

[Greenlite]

It means Reeves wants the same privilege Ben had when he signed on, which is to tell his story, not someone else's.

Ben's script could be great, could be crap, but Matt wanting to tell his story doesn't tell you the quality of the script. The Dope director used his own script instead of Lord and Miller's when he was doing The Flash, does that mean Lord and Miller's script was crap?

Anyway, I am excited because the Ape series was great.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

From the stories I read, WB was quite pleased with the script Affleck's submitted to them and were ready to go with it until Affleck decided he didn't want to direct.

 

[Wise]

It never made sense to me in new 52 where Batman is supposed to be 30 years old, but still had 4 Robins by then. Lolwut?

Same for me. Hoping for references to Batgirl and Jason Todd. Would love for Nightwing to appear in a small role.

My ideal movie would be Batman investigating, to find out Deathstroke is the one behind it, then Nightwing gets involved because of his past with Deathstroke, and then between all these, Batman suddenly realises they have all been played by the Joker.

'Bruce Wayne: Murderer/Fugitive' would be a good basis for a film. They could replace David Cain with Deathstroke and it would still work.

Lex even has reason to frame Bruce, given that he knows who he is and Bruce is part of the reason he was jailed. In the comic Lex doesn't know Bruce is Batman, he frames him because of what happened in No Man's Land with Wayne blocking Lex's play to buy almost all the real estate for nothing.

 

[Wise]

From the stories I read, WB was quite pleased with the script Affleck's submitted to them and were ready to go with it until Affleck decided he didn't want to direct.

But did they actually read it cover to cover or did Affleck put a scene in there with Jim Gordon giving Harvey Bullock oral sex?

t:t:t:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/good-will-hunting-gay-sex-scene_n_6581054

 

[Astro13Zombie]

What does everyone feel about Affleck's script being scrapped? I do usually like directors to be allowed to build their vision from the ground up, but I wonder if it means Affleck's script was ****. That's a bit troublesome to me considering he worked on it with Terrio and John's. Terrio I had a lot of faith in prior to BvS, but if it was garbage and Johns had his hands in it...that to me is concerning. Since he's supposed to be overseeing the DCEU, I'd think he'd be the right man for the job, but... writing comics and translating that to film is clearly more difficult than anticipated.

The script could have been amazing
Just not what Reeves has in mind.
With his talk of a trilogy, it's obvious that he has a vision for this.
Working off someone else's script doesn't Give him the freedom that he needs for that.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

But did they actually read it cover to cover or did Affleck put a scene in there with Jim Gordon giving Harvey Bullock oral sex?

t:t:t:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/good-will-hunting-gay-sex-scene_n_6581054

Girl, you be weird.

 

[FunkMiller]

What does everyone feel about Affleck's script being scrapped? I do usually like directors to be allowed to build their vision from the ground up, but I wonder if it means Affleck's script was ****. That's a bit troublesome to me considering he worked on it with Terrio and John's. Terrio I had a lot of faith in prior to BvS, but if it was garbage and Johns had his hands in it...that to me is concerning. Since he's supposed to be overseeing the DCEU, I'd think he'd be the right man for the job, but... writing comics and translating that to film is clearly more difficult than anticipated.

We'll never really know, unfortunately. The script could well have been poor (Terrio did write BvS after all) or Reeves simply wants to go in another direction. Even if the script was okay, it's still good that Reeves is doing his own take. You want a director to have ownership of his movie, right or wrong.

 

[markjoedelonge]

I have a lot more faith in Reeves than Affleck. Reeves knows how to do very character driven films. Caesar's arc is the best character arc I've seen in a long time, and I cannot wait to see him tackle Batman.

I am also happy Affleck has been relieved of directing duties. (happy FOR him, as opposed to being happy he is not directing anymore) He just has too much on his plate at the moment. This way, he gets to lay back and let Reeves do the heavy work.

 

[B]

I have a lot more faith in Reeves than Affleck. Reeves knows how to do very character driven films. Caesar's arc is the best character arc I've seen in a long time, and I cannot wait to see him tackle Batman.

I am also happy Affleck has been relieved of directing duties. (happy FOR him, as opposed to being happy he is not directing anymore) He just has too much on his plate at the moment. This way, he gets to lay back and let Reeves do the heavy work.

I'm kinda happy Affleck's been relieved of director duties for the same reason. Just starring in any of the MCU or DCEU movies alone seems to require a great deal of time, effort & dedication given the sheer size of the production & the depth in which it needs to go.

I'm sure he would have been fine as the director though as he does seem very competent, but at least this way he can focus on the role itself & all that entails.

 

[thebatfan5194]

I'm guessing if WB was actually happy with Affleck's script that them not allowing Reeves to start over might have been what held up negotiations initially.

 

[BatLobster]

As a director and writer himself, I'm sure Affleck understands Reeves wanting to tell the story that interests him the most. But I have to say, I think it's actually pretty ballsy for Reeves to step in and tear up a script written by the lead in your film- Ben Affleck no less, a megastar and acclaimed filmmaker with major clout at the studio. I know Live By Night was a flop, but still. Can't help but wonder if there's any awkwardness there about the whole thing, though maybe Affleck is relieved to have all the pressure of any responsibility or accountability for his thing off of his shoulders.

 

[thebatfan5194]

As a director and writer himself, I'm sure Affleck understands Reeves wanting to tell the story that interests him the most. But I have to say, I think it's actually pretty ballsy for Reeves to step in and tear up a script written by the lead in your film- Ben Affleck no less, a megastar and acclaimed filmmaker with major clout at the studio. I know Live By Night was a flop, but still. Can't help but wonder if there's any awkwardness there about the whole thing, though maybe Affleck is relieved to have all the pressure of any responsibility or accountability for his thing off of his shoulders.

Ben seemed really stressed out about the whole thing by the end of his tenure as director of the film. Almost to the point where people were positive he was going to quit the whole thing altogether. Wouldn't be surprised if Ben stepping back from the "creative" side of Batman will allow him to stay on as the character for longer than he would have if he just pushed through it. This way he can act as Batman for a few months out of the year and still have a life/career outside of the DCEU which would have been nearly impossible if he stayed on with all of his hats.