The Official Green Lantern Review Thread - Part 1

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I will admit that I was concerned yesterday before seeing the movie. With all the bad reviews I thought I'd be walking into a garbage fest. Luckily it was better than I even expected to begin with and I am still scratchy my head over what people disliked so much.

It seems to be there is more telling then showing. If people are sitting around tell Hal how awesome he is, instead of him learning it through his actions, that could be quite boring.
 
Brand X,

That review you posted was quite good. Interesting stuff.

Honestly, I can't make my mind up. All I know is this; I have loved Campbell's Goldeneye, Casino Royale, and Mask of Zorro. I thought his Edge of Darkness was a solid, character driven thriller.

I just think it's almost impossible for him to make a film that's as bad as the 19% that it's getting at rottentomatoes.com.

I just can't see it.

This is my personal opinion and bias.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/beyond_borders/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/legend_of_zorro/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/criminal_law/
 
Bubonic,

I liked Thor well enough to see it three times in the theatre but that doesn't blind me to the fact that it's not a particularly good film. It's better than Iron Man 2 and the Incredible Hulk but that's not really saying much.

Thor is a film that's just "good enough". It's meant to introduce the character for Avengers, not to actually tell a real Thor story...and you can feel that with every decision that's made in the film.

But again, that cast carries it to the point where you can look past it's faults.

It seems that Lantern is the exact same thing, except that it doesn't cheap on the action and it doesn't look, in fact, cheap. Say what you will about Thor but Marvel Studios' cut corners with film, in the money department...and you can feel it. It's not a particularly good looking film at all.

Devin Faraci said an interesting thing on twitter yesterday. He believes that Thor and Lantern are essentially the same, lazy film. But, he said that the visual effects and the love story of Lantern are far superior to Thor's.

Those two aspects are a big thing for me because the love story of Thor only works because of Portman and Hemsworth's chemistry. That's it. It's not particularly written well at all but both of the actors play it as a "first date/flirtation" love story...which I bought but there should've been more of it.

If Lantern has better visual effects and a better love story, then it's already better than Thor, in my opinion.

And yet, it's getting killed....

Unless Green Lantern has a Loki, I can see why it doesn't work as well. I can agree with most of your points. A lot of the film has a "cheap" feel and doesn't really matter when Thor or Loki aren't on the screen.

but what makes Thor work is that the core tale of a father and his two sons is nailed by the actors. Each step of their journey has weight. The emotion of the climax is so raw.

So while Green Lantern may have better effects and slightly better romance, it seems to be lacking the villain and emotion.
 
I've complained about Thor walking on egg shells but the foundations are at least solid, it may be a bit bland but it's well made blandness.
 
I've complained about Thor walking on egg shells but the foundations are at least solid, it may be a bit bland but it's well made blandness.

That is an excellent way of describing it.
 
and people were worried that WB owning Rotten Tomatoes would mean skewed reviews... unless of course the real tomatometer would by to M. Knight levels of bad.
 
Maybe they are, one or two of those 'fresh' reviews are bordering on 'rotten'. *shrugs*
 
and people were worried that WB owning Rotten Tomatoes would mean skewed reviews... unless of course the real tomatometer would by to M. Knight levels of bad.

I know there was a agreement for WB to acquire Flixter, which owns RT, but I don't believe that the acquisition has been finalized yet. The announcement of the acquisition was made last month. Furthermore as part of the agreement, both Flixter and RT are to work independently of the WB.
 
I haven't mentioned the previous costs on projects prior to SR. Not once.

Y'mean, like when you replied 'studio need to recoup...' and after I mentioned budget estimates that include prior failed efforts?

Okey-dokey.
 
Y'mean, like when you replied 'studio need to recoup...' and after I mentioned budget estimates that include prior failed efforts?

Okey-dokey.

If you'll recall, the discussion was about including marketing in with the production budget and everyone moaning about how that "wasn't fair". Money spent is money spent. Green Lantern cost WB $300 million and they have to recoup all of that and then some to make it worth their while. Telling the people who put up the money "yeah, but that 100 mil doesn't count because it was for marketing" ain't gonna fly.

You're not going to paint this into something I didn't say.
 
if this had come out in 2006 it would have gotten superman returns' 76%
if it had come out in 2000 it probably would have gotten Xmen's 80%

it picked a bad time to be a so so movie
 
Why is everyone dragging Thor into this? Thor was a solid film. I enjoyed it a lot. It worked. It did well at the box office too. Thor was not bad and it didn't look like corners were cut. I wasn't expecting Avavtar lever fx and budget to be spent on a character that isn't popular or known outside of comics for the most part.
 
If GL is garbage then admit and don't shift the focus on Thor or make excuses. Now personally I don't think it's garbage, well I haven't seen it yet but I'm optimistic enough that I'll enjoy it. I hope. WB is a studio that hasn't got it yet with their heroes. Batman worked because of Nolan. He got it somewhat but then it was an easy for him cause he didn't have to deal with fantasy and super powers and that can get tricky cause it can easily become cheesy and hokey. Superman wasn't a success because of Singer and his beliefs and direction on what Supes should be and Superman is just a boring character cause WB has not moved the character forward period to change with the times.
 
I got a hard time believing that this is as good as Thor. Don't see critics dogging this but liking Thor and they are of similar in quality as some has said. Wow WB's big summer tent pole has gone bust? 300 million? Yikes. I don't know who felt that was a good idea.
 
Here are the reviews from ThinkMcflyThink.Com & WelcomeToCoastCity.Org which I am co-owner and operator.

Metropolis Man runs WelcomeToCoastCity.Org as a one man show over there. I think he mentioned his review, not sure if he posted it.

Mitch Anderson is Editor In Chief of ThinkMcflyThink.Com

http://www.welcometocoastcity.org/green-lantern-news/2011/6/15/green-lantern-review.html

Negativity began to swirl around Green Lantern earlier today as the reviews found their way online. http://www.welcometocoastcity.org/green-lantern-news/2011/6/15/green-lantern-review.html#I usually don't pay attention to what critic's have to say on any film because a movie should be judged with a person's own opinion. Worry began to set in my mind as each review seemed to have nothing but bad things to say about this character that I love so much.

Leading up to the film, my expectations were high and they lowered considerably after all the comments on what a terrible movie this turned out to be. I'm glad that whatever those people saw, I missed out on. This was one of the most fun experiences watching a film in the theatre for me.

My viewing of Green Lantern was supposed to be in the regular 2D format but right before the screen came on it was announced that the wrong film was sent and we would be getting the 3D version. This movie was post-converted into 3D and that usually spells doom. I can gladly say that Green Lantern boasted bright colors and extraordinary depth which was a welcomed surprise to all the murky, dark conversions that generally plague cinemas. Now onto the movie.

It started off with an introduction of the Green Lantern universe which was basically the same thing that was shown in the 3D trailer. After that, the action began and never slowed down from the opening sequence. There were plenty of strong points to this film; Reynolds as Hal, Lively as Carol, Strong as Sinestro, and enough action to keep most fans pleased. I found the humor to be more witty than comedic. A lot of speculation leading into the movie was that Ryan Reynolds would just be playing himself in the role but in my opinion he toned down his usual schtick and gave a performance of great wit. He took the serious face when the situation called for it, and made me enjoy Hal Jordan more than I ever have when reading the Green Lantern series. Reynolds brought such a strong personality to the character who was every bit of the word "cocky" and found a way to be charming through it all.

Blake Lively as Carol Ferris has one of the strongest female performances in any comic related film yet. There is believability to her possibly running Ferris Air when she puts Hal in his place more than once. The chemistry between Lively and Reynolds is another positive to this film. It honestly feels like these two have known each other since age seven and you can sense the tension after all the years and the love they have in the intimate moments. Peter Sarsgaard as Hector Hammond was hit and miss for me. At times he came off as creepy and scary then he would turn out a bit of ham with a very comical villain routine. He certainly nailed the extremely awkward personality before he made the turn into the oversized cranium braniac.

As far as I'm concerned that was money well spent. From the general landscape of Oa to the character renderings of Tomar-Re and Kilowog this movie looks fantastic. The opening sequence with Abin Sur looks fantastic and really causes a strong sense of urgency for what lies ahead. Tomar-Re is probably the finest bit of all the CGI in the movie. His movements and general details to his body are outstanding. I had a few concerns with the look of Kilowog when I watched that footage with Michael Clarke Duncan on G4 but there are no complaints after seeing the finished product. The constructs played out even better than I imagined they would as well, very creative!

Now that I've praised the movie for a bit I'll bring you to what I thought were the problems. Mark Strong as Sinestro. No, not his performance on screen.http://www.welcometocoastcity.org/green-lantern-news/2011/6/15/green-lantern-review.html# The downside is that he isn't on quite enough. Which is my biggest gripe with the entire film. It's a bit of a contradiction here that the movie is on such a fast pace and is action packed from beginning to end but it also causes moments to be rushed, feeling like we just didn't get enough time for things to develop properly. As soon as I really get invested into a scene they cut away from it leaving me wishing it was longer. We see very little of Tomar-Re, Killowog, Sinestro. The other members of the Corps which are pretty much "blink and you miss it" appearances. Most scenes in the film happen so fast and cut away with little explanation that it leaves the viewer to sort of fill in the blanks of what went down between scenes.

Even with that little bump of the film feeling rushed at times, it doesn't bring down the overall experience I had while watching it. In an odd way I am left wanting more, in a positive light, that I hope a potential sequel fills my appetite for what I received with this first installment. My review obviously doesn't agree with a majority of what the other critic's had to say but it's my honest opinion after this first viewing. Call me a fanboy with bad taste in movies http://www.welcometocoastcity.org/green-lantern-news/2011/6/15/green-lantern-review.html#if you want because as I said before this may be the most fun I've had while watching a comic related film.

P.S. - Stay after the credits for an additional scene. You're not going to want to miss this. Extreme geek mode will set in.
because that is possibly the highest point of the movie for me. He's commanding of your attention every moment he makes an appearance on
http://www.thinkmcflythink.com/movie-news/2011/6/16/movie-review-green-lantern.html

Thisfilmmarks the first time the character's ever graced the big screen before, brought to life here by Ryan Reynolds. The film as I'm sure you're aware has been plagued with delays, ****** rumours, and a down right awful marketing campaign from the start. Luckily for Warner Bros and DC they seem to have actually delivered the end result they were aiming for. I can't say I was ever really a fan of the character before, aside from the direct to video animated releases, and I've never actually read a Green Lantern comic; so my opinion on the film is as unbiased and objectively viewed as it gets.

Ryan Reynolds casting as Hal Jordan the arrogant and cocky Air Force test pilot was as spot on as Robert Downey Jr as Tony Stark. Similar to Reynolds previous roles he brings his sarcastic wit and charm, only this time he's also given a few brief moments to showcase his acting ability, he doesn't disappoint. Blake Lively as Carol Farris, Hal's love interest, felt like the most indispensable role of the film. They could have done with out the character or Lively and not had to change any serious element of the plot. Peter Sarsgaard's portrayal of Dr. Hector Hammond the main villain was both menacing and sadistic. Even Mark Strong who's screen time didn't seem nearly long enough was fantastic as the leader of the Green Lantern Corps, Sinestro.

The film starts off right away by assuming the audience isn't at all aware of the Green Lantern mythology and in turn gives a breif narrated back story to get the ball rolling. For those unfamiliar like I for the most part was as well; The Green Lanterns rings were created by an ancient mortal alien race known as the guardians. The rings were sent out to seek a Lantern in each corner of the universe to protect their individual sector or galaxy. They were forged by the power of will, and it's the will power of each lantern that grants them their abilities. Alternatively The guardians also attempted to harness the power of fear, there efforts turned unsuccesful when they realized the power could only be used for evil doing, thus giving us our main antagonist.

The opening sequence has the space ship of Abin Sur, a purple humanoid alien Lantern', being attacked. The trailer http://www.thinkmcflythink.com/movie-news/2011/6/16/movie-review-green-lantern.html#really did no justice to this action sequence at all. Sur really is one bad mother****er, I'm sure he even has that stitched onto his wallet. We also get our first look at the power possessed by the rings as Sur fights off the invading force, only to be cornered into an escape pod. After crash landing on earth he allows the ring to seek out and find his predecessor, Hal Jordan, the first and at this point only human Lantern. Unlike the promotional images released early on the suit actually looks amazing on screen.

Without giving too much of the film away or spoiling any of the surprises, Green Lantern serves very much as a launching pad for the character; this is definitely an origin story but much like Batman Begins it works quite well.


The special effects and cinematography were well beyond what I'd expected going in, although aside from a few key scenes the 3D was used entirely as a gimmick. In the action sequences it was kinda fun to watch, getting the extra depth and scope of 3D, but for the dialogue scenes and everything in between it was distracting as hell. Regardless of what you may have also heard or even assumed the plot and the tone aren't at all as campy or cheesy as you may of thought. Martin Campbell did a great job at taking the source material a lot more serious than I think anyone expected.
I would also suggest staying until after the intial credits end for a special surprise.
 
If GL is garbage then admit and don't shift the focus on Thor or make excuses. Now personally I don't think it's garbage, well I haven't seen it yet but I'm optimistic enough that I'll enjoy it. I hope. WB is a studio that hasn't got it yet with their heroes. Batman worked because of Nolan. He got it somewhat but then it was an easy for him cause he didn't have to deal with fantasy and super powers and that can get tricky cause it can easily become cheesy and hokey. Superman wasn't a success because of Singer and his beliefs and direction on what Supes should be and Superman is just a boring character cause WB has not moved the character forward period to change with the times.

well said
 
Here are the reviews from ThinkMcflyThink.Com & WelcomeToCoastCity.Org which I am co-owner and operator.

Metropolis Man runs WelcomeToCoastCity.Org as a one man show over there. I think he mentioned his review, not sure if he posted it.

Mitch Anderson is Editor In Chief of ThinkMcflyThink.Com

http://www.welcometocoastcity.org/green-lantern-news/2011/6/15/green-lantern-review.html

http://www.thinkmcflythink.com/movie-news/2011/6/16/movie-review-green-lantern.html

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Jmc,

That's a perfect description of Thor.

Darthskywalker,

Yeah, Loki might be the trump card. He's one of the best on screen villains for this genre....

...but I think Lantern will have that later, if it gets a sequel, with Sinestro.
 
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Heh, well the review on a website called welcometocoastcity.org is gonna praise it isn't it?

And why do people keep bringing Thor up? Thor wasn't slaughtered by reviewers. Green Lantern is. There is no conspiracy... Green Lantern must be that bad. We're not talking lukewarm reviews here, we're talking down right hostile with a lot of them.
 
The comparison is coming up because there have been a few reviews that have stated that Thor and Green Lantern are essentially the same film, when you break them down.
 
I haven't read any reviews comparing Thor and Green Lantern. Maybe Green Lantern and X-3 or Wolverine: Origins...

Thor at this point was in the 90s on rotten tomatoes. Then had a sharp fall. Green Lantern is currently below 30%. There just is no comparison.
 
Well, that's the question. When a few reviews I've read basically say that they have the same flaws, and yet one is getting killed and the other got a pass, then what is it that has everyone loathing Lantern and not Thor?

I'm not suggesting conspiracy because that's just stupid...but why does one work for critics when the other doesn't, IF, they're basically the same film with the same flaws?

I just find it interesting the critical response to Lantern with Thor...or practically any Marvel Studio film that comes out lately.

I'm already predicting a 80% rating on Captain America just based solely on the fact that Captain America is the last big one that hasn't come out that "people" seem to have been waiting for.

Just based on online conversation on different film websites, a lot of journalist are going to praise Captain America, even if it doesn't work.
 
Morningstar,

Fine. You're right. It's just a vibe I'm picking up on. Just ignore me.
 
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