The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Video Game Thread - Part 6

[Tim]

Goddamnit no Gwen? That is really really disappointing.

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I somehow knew it when they said no spoilers, trying to cheapen out of doing certain story arcs etc...

 

[matt47]

What bugs me is how people are unintentionally making the web slinging errors happen. They always swing when they shouldn't, meaning the player ends up sliding across buildings with the same level of momentum before the "clipping?" into the building ends, and the normal swing continues. It ruins the belief.

Web slinging is best as Spider-Man actually does it, low, and close to the ground. Plus you get to see that city detail up close and notice pop in less (since if you're up high then you'd notice how empty the streets look).

Thats why I get so frustrated watching these walkthroughs! I just sit there watching and yelling, ''No!!! Don't do that!!" Every 10 seconds.

 

[LizardMan07]

Are we 100% sure about the no Gwen thing?

 

[Joshider]

Thats why I get so frustrated watching these walkthroughs! I just sit there watching and yelling, ''No!!! Don't do that!!" Every 10 seconds.

Pretty much. Like yeah sure, it shows it's a massive error in the game mechanic, but surely for your own personal satisfaction you'd want to try and ignore that and play it as, you know, SPIDER-MAN ACTUALLY WOULD? The poor mechanic just makes me want to do it properly even more to be honest!

 

[Joshider]

Are we 100% sure about the no Gwen thing?

I haven't seen Gwen in any part of the 10 parts of walkthroughs that I've taken glimpses at.

Her only mention as far as I know from what I saw was the whole Shocker at Oscorp thing. It's funny though because at this point, Aunt May doesn't even know they go out.

 

[LizardMan07]

God damnit Beenox I wanted an alternate universe here where

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Gwen Survives and she moves to London with peter God Damnit this is why we can't have nice things.

In all seriousness it'd be dumb if we don't even see her.

 

[Joshider]

I personally think it's a missed opportunity having her in general because the last game actually showed a lot of encouragement regarding their relationship. Since the main focus of the film is their relationship, I had hoped it would play a part here. 100% gutted.

 

[kbrooksgohan]

Forget Gwen...let's talk about the gameplay and how repetitive the combat is. If you look at the vids(that don't exist) you will see that the same animations are used over and over again. I was hoping they would change it up but each time they played I literally saw the same move endings and animations from ASM1. I was also hoping for some new combat upgrades and signature specials and guess what??? There are none! The moves from ASM1 are his signature moves! That's it! You would think that him being a better Spiderman would mean new closer moves but no! They decided to mimic the Arkham engine but neglected to add any worthwhile additions or animations. When AC came out he had special takedowns,new gadgets,quick-fire options which helped to open up the gameplay so that no player played EXACTLY the same. The problem with this game's combat is there's not enough variation to differentiate each player's play-style. No two players should play the same. Unfortunate Beenox doesn't feel the same way.

I also observed that some of the "upgrades" are taken directly from the first game and they are unlocked when you start this one. Huh?? So your telling me it was important enough to lock "Stickyness" and that it needed to be a an "Upgrade" for this game once again? Or! How about being able to throw objects???? Remember that from the first game? Well guess what? They locked the feature and then presented as an upgrade! LOL! They also removed some of the upgrades from the first game.....


They really dropped the ball with this game. Sure they added some new stealth animations but the bulk of the core gameplay has not really been upgraded for this sequel. They could have added air combos,special takedowns,new web attacks ,grapple,and a number of "OLD" additions from previous games but they decided that "That the combat was GREAT as is." Really????? Beenox needs to go. And don't get me started on the ALL NEW swing system. The scale of the city is off. SM2 had pretty good architecture and obviously Spiderman was smaller in comparison to the city. I was thinking that maybe that's the catch 22 of having a bigger Spiderman model or closer camera but then I watched WOS and I noticed that Spidey was identical to his size in ASM1/2 yet the city still looks bigger than him.

Even with the cloud swinging in WOS at least it looked more realistic and like it had more physics than this game. Look....I liked some of what Beenox brought to the Spiderman franchise but now it's like they are ignoring everything right from the previous games including their own. It's pretty ridiculous. I am not looking forward to ASM3. I think it's time Beenox let someone else handle the Spiderman franchise.

*Note* I am not complaining nor am I bashing Beenox. These are from real observations and it saddens me that after 2 years of development this is what they came up with.

 

[LizardMan07]

Beenox make some dumb decisions, everybody LOVES Gwen! Every character from the movie is in it except her!

 

[kbrooksgohan]

Beenox make some dumb decisions, everybody LOVES Gwen! Every character from the movie is in it except her!

Yes they do make dumb decisions....

In the developer walkthrough I was hoping that the upgrade menu they showed had more options because according to the head of Beenox "Spiderman had MANY new upgrades to his swinging and combat/webbing."

Plenty means two web upgrades? I thought they said we would have ice webbing or some other variations? Instead we got iconic and seismic???? The many many swing upgrades ended up being one. Boost!!!! Catapult is not an upgrade.....

 

[Tim]

kbrooksgohan no one cares about your endless rants, I'm not going to stop discussing the lack of Gwen Stacey just so you can continue bashing the game on every page. We get it by now, the game sucks. It's TASM1 with a few changed up things. Yes we hate it too, can we move on already.

Are you guys sure she's not in the game? They better release story DLC featuring her or that's a REAL game breaker for me with possible pre-order cancelling, because no Gwen = no Spidey game for me. I can't believe they went the cheap route just to not spoil anything from the movie, ridiculous to say the least. "Adapts key moments of the movie", Petes and Gwens relationship is ESSENTIALLY the whole big thing the movie is about. Harry & Max/Electro is more or less a side-arc that you could cut out because it's all about Peter and Gwen, nothing else.

 

[Spider-man95]

I still think this game will be fun, but seeing the gameplay only reinforced my wanting of another company making Spider-man games. We need someone who can bring us something ground breaking.

I don't like that the side activities are once again things you have to activate instead of them actually happening in real time. I mean come on..if Spider-man 2 and Ultimate Spider-man could do it, why can't we have that now? I want to be swinging in New York City and see a burning building in the distance, then I want to be able to go into it and save the people inside without a loading screen. That would be something I would expect from a game built for next gen. I can only pray we get a game like that someday.

At least the web swinging looks like it's more fun that the last game. The animations are a little clunky and awkward though. I not really a fan of wall running with the same button as the web swinging, Why couldn't Y/triangle (since it's the wall crawl button in this game) do that if you held it. Now I'm starting to realize how important the sprint button and charging your jump was! It gave you so much more control over Spidey.

New York does look a million times better though. Much bigger buildings and more accurate to the real New York City. It does look like it'll be fun to swing around that!

 

[FN Spider-man]

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I'm glad she wasn't at least that Gwen in this one who's still alive

 

[kbrooksgohan]

kbrooksgohan no one cares about your endless rants, I'm not going to stop discussing the lack of Gwen Stacey just so you can continue bashing the game on every page. We get it by now, the game sucks. It's TASM1 with a few changed up things. Yes we hate it too, can we move on already.

Are you guys sure she's not in the game? They better release story DLC featuring her or that's a REAL game breaker for me with possible pre-order cancelling, because no Gwen = no Spidey game for me. I can't believe they went the cheap route just to not spoil anything from the movie, ridiculous to say the least. "Adapts key moments of the movie", Petes and Gwens relationship is ESSENTIALLY the whole big thing the movie is about. Harry & Max/Electro is more or less a side-arc that you could cut out because it's all about Peter and Gwen, nothing else.

Tim.


Don't be a rude. It's a rant if I bring up real observations? I am a little disapointed in the lack of improvement in the core gameplay and most of my ???? are hyperbole but I can discuss what I want and besides the entire point of me posting that was to spark INTELLIGENT conversation. I didn't bash anyone for being excited for the game so don't bash me for making observations. People can review the movie but you can't review the game? What a fricking double standard.

It's a game discussion thread if you can't take get out. But don't be ignorant because I'm not all lovey dovey for the game. I have brought up pro's and cons of what Beenox has brought to the table. If you don't have anything nice to say than don't say it. That's the nicest way I could put it.

 

[LizardMan07]

Screw Beenox we knew the actual game would be pretty aweful but that doesn't mean they had to mess the story up by cutting Gwen out as well! Just crazy

 

[kbrooksgohan]

I still think this game will be fun, but seeing the gameplay only reinforced my wanting of another company making Spider-man games. We need someone who can bring us something ground breaking.

I don't like that the side activities are once again things you have to activate instead of them actually happening in real time. I mean come on..if Spider-man 2 and Ultimate Spider-man could do it, why can't we have that now? I want to be swinging in New York City and see a burning building in the distance, then I want to be able to go into it and save the people inside without a loading screen. That would be something I would expect from a game built for next gen. I can only pray we get a game like that someday.

At least the web swinging looks like it's more fun that the last game. The animations are a little clunky and awkward though. I not really a fan of wall running with the same button as the web swinging, Why couldn't Y/triangle (since it's the wall crawl button in this game) do that if you held it. Now I'm starting to realize how important the sprint button and charging your jump was! It gave you so much more control over Spidey.

New York does look a million times better though. Much bigger buildings and more accurate to the real New York City. It does look like it'll be fun to swing around that!

Nice post. I would like more control over Spidey too. Hopefully it'll be the next game.

 

[kbrooksgohan]

Screw Beenox we knew the actual game would be pretty aweful but that doesn't mean they had to mess the story up by cutting Gwen out as well! Just crazy

I didn't know the game would be awful. XD!

I was hoping for a better game lol. It may be for some people but I was looking for a little bit more in certain areas. To each is own though.

 

[Tim]

Screw Beenox we knew the actual game would be pretty aweful but that doesn't mean they had to mess the story up by cutting Gwen out as well! Just crazy

Just asked an acquaintance of me and he confirmed that Gwen is indeed not part of the game. She only gets mentioned once in a conversation between Pete and Aunt May.

There goes all hype for this game, playing with the thought of cancelling my pre-order now.

 

[FrostBite]

...I honestly didn't know Gwen was that big of a ****ing deal. I am not bashing anyone for it (despite my colorful vocab) but dang, that just wasn't on my list of concerns. I think it'll be good fun for $20 down the road. For now, screw it, Mario Golf is a' callin'.

 

[LizardMan07]

Just asked an acquaintance of me and he confirmed that Gwen is indeed not part of the game. She only gets mentioned once in a conversation between Pete and Aunt May.

There goes all hype for this game, playing with the thought of cancelling my pre-order now.

So dumb! Why do people insist of

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killing Gwen in all sorts of ways, first the clocktower and now this mysterious dissapearance

 

[JOE]

Edit: NVM, found it.

 

[FrostBite]

So dumb! Why do people insist of

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killing Gwen in all sorts of ways, first the clocktower and now this mysterious dissapearance

Because

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she dies. That's kind of her thing.

 

[TheSpectacular]

Any complete walkthroughs yet?

 

[LizardMan07]

Because

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she dies. That's kind of her thing.

God damnit man, I'm still not over that

 

[TWayneP]

...I honestly didn't know Gwen was that big of a ****ing deal. I am not bashing anyone for it (despite my colorful vocab) but dang, that just wasn't on my list of concerns. I think it'll be good fun for $20 down the road. For now, screw it, Mario Golf is a' callin'.

Soo true. Hmmm Spider-man...Mario Golf... Spider-man... Mario golf....

Mario Golf.