Superhero Cinematic Civil War - Part 57

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Forgive me if this comes across as mean-spirited by posting this on the anniversary of the Fox deal and nothing against this actress personally, but this tweet will never not be funny. :funny:
 
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I think it’s...too early to compare Gadot to RDJ, Evans, or Hemsworth.

I agree. She had one solo film that she was great in, and two bad team-up films where she didn’t get to do much.
 
There are a bunch of things I don't like about TLJ, Luke''s portrayal is not one of them.

Aquaman was fun but mindless fun. Momoa brought nothing special to the role.

Gadot was charming in WW but let's not let that blind us to the rest of her resume which it pretty bad.
 
Oh man, I never thought of Glenn Powell but he'd be perfect! Looks just like the comic book version and he's really charismatic and funny. Goddamn sir, you should be a casting director. Love it.
He's just such a talent. I really don't get why he's not a bigger star. I know he was a finalist for Goose's son in the Top Gun sequel. And even though they didn't choose him, they liked him so much that they wrote a role for him.

He's just so likable and charismatic in everything. I guess to be fair, I haven't seen him do a lot of drama, but I'd be surprised if he sucks at it.
He's tailor made for playing Barry Allen, but yeah they're doing whatever with him.

Him and Trevante Rhodes, I don't understand why they aren't at Miles Teller or Michael B Jordan level
 
Gadot is more of a Hemsworth than a Downey to me, as she's hit-or-miss (putting it generously) in other roles, and basically owes her success to being extremely well-suited to the character she's playing and working under the right director to help her performances. Because based on her other WW performances, she wouldn't have been able to carry that solo film without Patty Jenkins, imo. RDJ's an Oscar-caliber actor who'd been delivering top notch performances for a couple decades. Iron Man was a breakout hit simply because someone was finally savvy enough to put him in a blockbuster and let him do his thing. The DCEU doesn't have "their RDJ" yet, imo.

Jason? Eh, he's likable enough under the right director, but he ain't Aquaman to me.
I would not say Gadot is more of a Hemsworth. I think that's underplaying Hemsworth a lot.
Even not looking at Thor, Hemsworth is a very good actor. I wouldn't be surprised with the right role if he doesn't get a major award nod someday. True, he's been in his fair share of sucky movies, but he's never the problem in them. And then you see him in Rush, Bad Times at El Royale, in addition to his portrayal of Thor (particularly IW); he's way more than someone who owes their success due to being extremely well-suited to the character he's playing.

Momoa? I haven't seen Aquaman, but looking at the trailers it just seems like Momoa is playing himself. Which obviously worked really well for RDJ, but with AquaMomoa it just doesn't work for me from what I've seen
 
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I would not say Gadot is more of a Hemsworth. I think that's underplaying Hemsworth a lot.
Even not looking at Thor, Hemsworth is a very good actor. I wouldn't be surprised with the right role if he doesn't get a major award nod someday. True, he's been in his fair share of sucky movies, but he's never the problem in them. And then you see him in Rush, Bad Times at El Royale, in addition to his portrayal of Thor (particularly IW); he's way more than someone who owes their success due to being extremely well-suited to the character he's playing.
Well I did say more of a Hemsworth than a Downey. Like, if we have to compare her to one of those, he's the one I'd go with over RDJ. But I agree Hemsworth is generally a better actor than what I've seen from Gadot.
 
I love Momoa as Aquaman (and Drogo) and Gadot as Wonder Woman. I wouldn't call them great actors though, just perfect for the job at hand (which doesn't require anything beyond half decent acting). Hemsworth I think has more potential and Downey is a level above.
 
I don’t see Hemsworth getting an Oscar nomination, and I see Momoa and Gadot getting one even less, whereas RDJ was an Oscar nominated actor long before he was Tony Stark.

Not that Oscars are the be all end all, but RDJ is on another tier, acting-wise, than Gadot or Momoa (easily) or even Hemsworth.
 
Hemsworth needs to find good movies to be part of, or get back to working on TV shows.
 
I didn't see this in here, but I feel like this sums up the Snyder Cut situation rather well:

 
That’s interesting to me that you feel this way. Even most of the people who love Last Jedi aren’t too fond of Luke’s portrayal. I think part of the reason people don’t like TLJ’s version of Luke is because they don’t like the idea of Luke being a Jedi space hermit which is such a major contrast to where we last saw him in ROTJ where he was a fully formed Jedi Knight that had redeemed his father but I still vastly prefer the TLJ’s take on Luke to the bland EU version(who’s overpowered).

Probably going to ruffle more than a few feathers with what I just typed but it’s just how I feel.

Personally I grew up as a casual SW fan at best. I saw the original trilogy maybe once or twice. I always hated Luke (whiny brat) and I never much liked Han, either, though he was definitely better than Luke. The only part of those movies I really like is Vader, R2, Chewie, Yoda and the concept of a lightsaber/Jedi. And the only reason I cared about Star Wars as a franchise at all was because of the books I read - none of which were about Luke or Han or any of those characters. In fact, the books I read that were about those characters were almost always boring as hell.

Skipping past the prequels (Loved Ray Park, Neeson, Macgregor, and Portman - only in the first one- not a lot else worth mentioning), TFA was too OT nostalgic for me to fully get into it, but it did introduce a new pair of pro/antagonists that I found really fascinating in Rey and Kylo and that's why I checked out TLJ despite the nostalgia. It was pretty much instantly my favorite SW film, in large part because of Luke. This version of the character finally has real pathos, real emotion, real conflict - stuff he never really had in the old movies, at least not believably, imo. And Mark Hamill has grown into a massively better actor today than he was thirty years ago. He's become the near perfect embodiment of a true Jedi master - way more than Alec Guinness' paper-thin Obi-wan or Neeson's friendly, but perhaps naive Qui-Gon and, imo, even moreso than prickly, (good at pretending to be) wise old Yoda.
 
I feel bad for Snyder fans who want it, but they need to

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I can actually see it coming out now, if just to try and get people signed on early for HBO MAX. That said, I wouldn't expect a significant, or any real investment in it. Would that be enough for those that want it? I don't know. I'd be curious to see it, just so Snyder could stop with this myth he loves to run with.
 
I can actually see it coming out now, if just to try and get people signed on early for HBO MAX. That said, I wouldn't expect a significant, or any real investment in it. Would that be enough for those that want it? I don't know. I'd be curious to see it, just so Snyder could stop with this myth he loves to run with.
If it does happen eventually I'd love to forget it exists, I don't need another BvS in my life.
 
If it does happen eventually I'd love to forget it exists, I don't need another BvS in my life.
It's interesting. BvS to me is the movie that really bothers me on so many levels. As a fan of all those characters, it bothers me way more then JL. But JL is so lifeless, that I can't help but find it the worse film.
 
Personally I grew up as a casual SW fan at best. I saw the original trilogy maybe once or twice. I always hated Luke (whiny brat) and I never much liked Han, either, though he was definitely better than Luke. The only part of those movies I really like is Vader, R2, Chewie, Yoda and the concept of a lightsaber/Jedi. And the only reason I cared about Star Wars as a franchise at all was because of the books I read - none of which were about Luke or Han or any of those characters. In fact, the books I read that were about those characters were almost always boring as hell.

Skipping past the prequels (Loved Ray Park, Neeson, Macgregor, and Portman - only in the first one- not a lot else worth mentioning), TFA was too OT nostalgic for me to fully get into it, but it did introduce a new pair of pro/antagonists that I found really fascinating in Rey and Kylo and that's why I checked out TLJ despite the nostalgia. It was pretty much instantly my favorite SW film, in large part because of Luke. This version of the character finally has real pathos, real emotion, real conflict - stuff he never really had in the old movies, at least not believably, imo. And Mark Hamill has grown into a massively better actor today than he was thirty years ago. He's become the near perfect embodiment of a true Jedi master - way more than Alec Guinness' paper-thin Obi-wan or Neeson's friendly, but perhaps naive Qui-Gon and, imo, even moreso than prickly, (good at pretending to be) wise old Yoda.

I'm of a similar mindset. Enjoyed the originals, skipped the prequels,and found TFA to be a pleasant nostalgia trip. But TLJ, with Disillusioned Hermit Luke and No One Rey was the first interesting Star Wars film since the 1980s.
 
It's interesting. BvS to me is the movie that really bothers me on so many levels. As a fan of all those characters, it bothers me way more then JL. But JL is so lifeless, that I can't help but find it the worse film.
Justice League to me is the equivalent of Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, something mostly stupid and best ignored, but has some moments that are good for having a few chuckles.
 
As a fan of the characters, BVS made me angry as well as being bad. JL was just bad. So the worse movie award goes to BVS

Like I’ve mentioned, I like TLJ but I have found that it has the least rewatch ability than any other Star Wars movie outside of the prequels ( not counting the throne room battle that I could watch on a endless loop)
 
I like TLJ honestly. Incredible performance and some truly amazing scenes, despite some issues like Canto Bight and such. I still prefer The Force Awakens, and its a better movie, but TLJ, in my opinion, has more good stuff in it than bad.
 
Who watched the Watchmen last night? After much thought, I think this season was so perfect that it’d be a mistake to do more seasons of this show. If they do more, they must go the anthology route with new characters at the center this time.
 
Who watched the Watchmen last night? After much thought, I think this season was so perfect that it’d be a mistake to do more seasons of this show. If they do more, they must go the anthology route with new characters at the center this time.

If they continue it, I feel like they need to continue with at least some of these characters (unless the actors don't want to come back). Especially with how they ended Regina King's story. There are so many interesting places to go with that, and they're lucky to have a lead actress as talented as King. And please, before another person calls her a "Mary Sue," please tell me why that term only ever seems to be used whenever a female character is a total badass who is good at a number of things. Somehow I don't recall ever hearing Indiana Jones, James Bond, Batman or Captain Kirk referred to as a "Gary Stu."
 
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