He-man Sequel Series (Netflix)

[CEREBRAL....]

I liked it, I have some gripes but I think the internet crowd has gone over board with their complaints. I mean it's the first 5 ep only.

Why are you complaining that Kevin Smith erased He-man from the series..


Thought Orko n Evil-Lyn stole the show for me. Their story arc was well done.

 

[CEREBRAL....]

He Man basically isn't in the show.
If all they give him two episodes and then brief flashbacks that's really nothing to be excited about.

Respectfully...its hard to accept your take when the story and what they have presented us is not done. It's pretty obvious this is a set up for the hero to comeback. Multiple forms of entertainment have told stories in this same manner, I don't get these kind of takes.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That's strange, I don't recall ever saying anyone can't like it meanwhile there are multiple people in this thread they are demeaning and devaluing other reasons for not liking the series.

Yes you are. People are having discussions and disagreeing. Expressing their opinion. Instead of joining that discussion, you decided to complain that others are somehow stifling your opinion by disagreeing.

If you are complaining about others talking about the toxic discourse around this show elsewhere online... well I don't know what to tell you.

 

[CB Fan]

I liked these first five eps, not sure why they didn’t just wait to put the whole 10 eps on though.

 

[Sithborg]

No one can say that he lied until the entire first season is released. He-Man was in the first episode, he was in flashbacks, Adam was in the last episode, He-Man saved everyone, he restored magic to the universe but even though he wasnt necessarily saving the day for 3 of those episodes...we still got 5 to go.

I saw someone state how they hated the show because He-Man never showed up. I was very confused about the show I watched.

I just chalk that up to hyperbole. The marketing was misleading, leading to people have different expectations. I kind of chalk it up to similar people being disappointed by The Last Jedi, because their expectations had been built up so much in their mind, but what they got wasn't it.

Maybe Smith should've just called this "Teela," so everyone would know what they were getting into. It seems like this is all leading up to Teela taking the power sword and making her the next champion. I can already imagine He-Man telling her "no not me, now you have the power," kind of like what they did to Superman in the CW Supergirl show...

I honestly have to laugh about so many of the thematic parallels that I see between Revelations and She-ra, especially the final season. Needless to say, based on what the character's have said, I highly doubt this is going to be the case. I honestly want more people to pick up the sword. That is a fun concept that I don't think has been explored enough.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I just chalk that up to hyperbole. The marketing was misleading, leading to people have different expectations. I kind of chalk it up to similar people being disappointed by The Last Jedi, because their expectations had been built up so much in their mind, but what they got wasn't it.

I can get people being disappointed but some just seem to be overreacting and cant see through the red. He-Men is still very important to the story/first 5 episodes. If they watched those 5 and think "it's just bad, the writing sucks, it's lackluster", I can somewhat deal with that. But that 34% audience rating on RT? lol.....it's just plain revenge for the marketing. Which I doubt even if they marketed it differently the thoughts wouldnt change.

 

[Holy Slapper]

Maybe Smith should've just called this "Teela," so everyone would know what they were getting into. It seems like this is all leading up to Teela taking the power sword and making her the next champion. I can already imagine He-Man telling her "no not me, now you have the power," kind of like what they did to Superman in the CW Supergirl show...

She's being set up to take over from her mother, the Sorceress (which was revealed in the original show). Adam isn't dead, Kevin Smith even spoiled it in the tweet that was posted earlier in this thread.

 

[Holy Slapper]

I just chalk that up to hyperbole. The marketing was misleading, leading to people have different expectations. I kind of chalk it up to similar people being disappointed by The Last Jedi, because their expectations had been built up so much in their mind, but what they got wasn't it.

How was it misleading? I expected this to grow other characters, to expand the lore and it did exactly that.

 

[Sithborg]

How was it misleading? I expected this to grow other characters, to expand the lore and it did exactly that.

Misleading does not mean false. You met your expectations. Others expectations were different.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah, like I have said, I enjoyed it. But I am still a little put off by the advertising suggesting something a bit different. I am guessing that the advertising will feel more on point after the second half of the series is seen.

 

[cabel]

I can’t post it because of language, but I recommend Smith’s newest “Fatman Beyond” podcast. Griffin Newman, the voice of Orko, is the guest. They address the “lying” among other topics. It’s a fun listen/watch.

 

[CEREBRAL....]

I am not even upset with the "marketing" because everything is supposed to keep you guessing or throw us, the audience off a bit.

It would probably have been even more of an interesting shocker had the "kevin Smith deceived us" crowd not turned it into this big ordeal...

Also I don't think they realize how much more they are promoting the series with their disgusted of his efforts.

 

[TheVileOne]

I don't think it was misleading. The very first synopsis from PowerCon in 2019 mentioned that this was going to be about Teela going on a quest after He-Man and Skeletor's final battle.

I'm just saying, the basic plot of the first season was out there in the public from the beginning.

My issue is a lot of the people raging from the show are alt-right dog whistlers and they are bad faith actors. Most of them are trying to stoke the fires of outrage and make this into some culture war about woke SJWs destroying our media.

 

[TheVileOne]

I am not even upset with the "marketing" because everything is supposed to keep you guessing or throw us, the audience off a bit.

It would probably have been even more of an interesting shocker had the "kevin Smith deceived us" crowd not turned it into this big ordeal...

Also I don't think they realize how much more they are promoting the series with their disgusted of his efforts.

I think the only thing he was slightly dishonest about was how big of a Masters of the Universe fan he was. He clearly wasn't/isn't. Or rather than being dishonest about it, he overhyped it.

 

[cabel]

While I like the show as is

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I do feel an additional 1-2 episodes of “traditional” He-Man adventures on the front end would’ve eased the complaints a little. More time with He-Man, more time with Teela’s relationships with Adam and the other characters to help make her reaction when things go down more understandable.

also, they should’ve released the entire season at once

 

[Holy Slapper]

While I like the show as is

Spoiler

I do feel an additional 1-2 episodes of “traditional” He-Man adventures on the front end would’ve eased the complaints a little. More time with He-Man, more time with Teela’s relationships with Adam and the other characters to help make her reaction when things go down more understandable.

also, they should’ve released the entire season at once

Well they haven't finished it yet but I guess that falls on Netflix, not Kevin Smith.

 

[cabel]

Smith said it was Netflix’s decision

 

[Sithborg]

I think the only thing he was slightly dishonest about was how big of a Masters of the Universe fan he was. He clearly wasn't/isn't. Or rather than being dishonest about it, he overhyped it.

The tricky thing about being a fan, is that doesn't necessarily create a single voice for creators. I mean, it is clear there is love for the old series.



The clip they released feels like a modern take on the old series, down to the cheesy lines. The problem comes in that you are asking Kevin Smith to tell a story. And he is still Kevin Smith. He is going to tell the story that Kevin Smith wants to tell. There is definitely signs that he is a fan, and there is stuff he wants to play around with.

That just doesn't include He-man.

 

[CEREBRAL....]

While I like the show as is

Spoiler

I do feel an additional 1-2 episodes of “traditional” He-Man adventures on the front end would’ve eased the complaints a little. More time with He-Man, more time with Teela’s relationships with Adam and the other characters to help make her reaction when things go down more understandable.

also, they should’ve released the entire season at once

Excellent point...I am fine with how it's going but a little of what you are describing I think would of flowed well too..I do think teela's attitude or her being so upset was kind of forced.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

As someone who didn't hate this show, but is looking forward to the second half I can say that had we spent more time with the characters after episode 1 it definitely would have flowed better and felt more natural IMO.

The structure of the first half of this season was something I disliked the most because to me it felt like we didn't get enough time with certain characters before it completely transitioned into something else.

Of course some of that could change in part 2, but I couldn't help but feel like something missing in these episodes and it kind of bugged me throughout.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The tricky thing about being a fan, is that doesn't necessarily create a single voice for creators. I mean, it is clear there is love for the old series.



The clip they released feels like a modern take on the old series, down to the cheesy lines. The problem comes in that you are asking Kevin Smith to tell a story. And he is still Kevin Smith. He is going to tell the story that Kevin Smith wants to tell. There is definitely signs that he is a fan, and there is stuff he wants to play around with.

That just doesn't include He-man.

I would disagree on the last part.

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The way that first episode is a modern version of the old show with He-Man being full on super hero, the running through of Skel, the attention to details like Marlena knowing her son's true nature, Randor's dismissal of Adam's character and the end of ep 5 where Adam gets stabbed... This feels EXACTLY like playing with action figures and He-Man is at the center of the story.

Plus... The taking He-Man of the board for a period is a way to break out of the formulaic nature of MOTU. I know... This is but one way to do such a thing. It's like in JLA or Avengers stories where to even have a story you have to find a way to nullify or take out BIG GUNS like Superman, GL, Wonder Woman, Thor, Iron Man ect. Yes, people have issues with that and it's one of the methods to make stories with superemely powerful characters work/have stakes/consequences that is maybe too common but it works.

Also, to modernize MOTU there needs to be more development of the supporting characters surrounding your main hero or heroes. The Mike Young show did small steps to do that. There, again, the character that was most ripe for having a strong arc based upon the history of the franchise was... Teela. Her relationship to the Sorceress, her relationship with Duncan, her relationship with Adam/He-Man was grist for a lot of drama in that reboot. But there's only so far you can go when you have to also give Skeletor and He-Man/Adam some shine so I think Smith solved some issues by getting both out the way to get the ball rolling, yet at the mid point of the season Skeletor and Adam are back to prominence in the story.

That's my view.

 

[cabel]

Spoiler

He-Man and Skeletor are the two extremes of the spectrum. Like magnets they draw certain elements towards themselves in the form of their friends and allies. The show then takes away those magnets. Now those elements that were compelled towards the two opposites are free to mingle in the middle space between the extremes. With the cliffhanger, the magnets are reintroduced and now we’re seeing those elements being drawn towards them again, or are they?

in addition to the traditional episodes I suggested earlier, I would have loved to have seen more episodes seeing what other supporting characters were doing in a world without magic/He-Man. What were Stratos, Mekaneck, and Ram-Man up to? Unfortunately we can only have so many episodes with out He-Man apparently./s

 

[TheVileOne]

The tricky thing about being a fan, is that doesn't necessarily create a single voice for creators. I mean, it is clear there is love for the old series.



The clip they released feels like a modern take on the old series, down to the cheesy lines. The problem comes in that you are asking Kevin Smith to tell a story. And he is still Kevin Smith. He is going to tell the story that Kevin Smith wants to tell. There is definitely signs that he is a fan, and there is stuff he wants to play around with.

That just doesn't include He-man.

I can sort of see some of this. However, he told Variety he "hate-watched" it as a kid.

I see the sacrifice of Adam as kind of like Optimus Prime's death in Transformers the movie.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Spoiler

He-Man and Skeletor are the two extremes of the spectrum. Like magnets they draw certain elements towards themselves in the form of their friends and allies. The show then takes away those magnets. Now those elements that were compelled towards the two opposites are free to mingle in the middle space between the extremes. With the cliffhanger, the magnets are reintroduced and now we’re seeing those elements being drawn towards them again, or are they?

in addition to the traditional episodes I suggested earlier, I would have loved to have seen more episodes seeing what other supporting characters were doing in a world without magic/He-Man. What were Stratos, Mekaneck, and Ram-Man doing up to? Unfortunately we can only have so many episodes with out He-Man apparently./s

I like this take.

 

[cabel]

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