The Book of Boba Fett Chapter 6: From the Desert Comes a Stranger (Spoiler Discussion)

[DKDetective]

True. I just think most of his roles these days, he sounds more like the Joker then anything else.

Oh I agree. That is his range diminishing with age. It seems whenever he tries to contort his voice much anymore it defaults to those characteristics, which makes sense given how it is one of his most prolific roles.

 

[misjuevos]

Have you watched TCW? Yoda has plenty of emotional attachments. We literally see them, in his head. During Order 66, he reacts on an emotional level to the death of his fellow Jedi. The idea of no emotional attachment is a lie. They can't pull it off. A Jedi would have to lack empathy to pull it off. Yoda, Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, Ahsoka, Luke, Rey, Kanan, Ezra, and every major Jedi we have known, has emotional attachments. You know who doesn't?
When Satine died, Obi-Wan didn't fall to the dark side, not because he wasn't emotionally attached to her. He loved her. It's why he always came calling in her time of need. He doesn't fall because he doesn't give into his hate. The Jedi are in a constant battle against the dark side, even inside themselves. That's what makes them Jedi.

First of all Darth Vader is only emotional attachments that is why he fell to the dark side. Second I think Yoda was only feeling all these Jedi becoming one with the force, it was a great disturbance. As far as I could tell only he felt it, why is that. Who really knows? Did you see how Yoda reacts to Obi-wan after he finds out Anakin is Vader. He tells him to kill him. If he was so emotionally attached he would have told him to try and turn him back. Yoda can have feeling but he isn't attached to any of the Jedi. Their death is not the end to him. They become one with the force, this is how Yoda thinks. There is nothing to be emotionally attached to since they are never gone in his eyes.
With Grogu being in the picture now, maybe it was Grogu reaching out into the force that made Yoda feel something strange. We don't know yet how Feloni and Jon will change things so everything is up in the air.

 

[Gothamsknight]

The absolute worst thing they can do right now is to tie all this in to the Sequels. Please please please don't do that.

They don't have to erase them from canon and its not realistic to expect that to happen. But they also don't have to make any connections. There is more than enough time jump to keep them as separate stories. Let the audience make their own connections if they choose to.

They're canon. You can't just retcon a trilogy out of existence because you didn't like it. If you could, then they would've done the same for the prequels years ago. I'm a defender of TFA and TLJ (and i really don't like TROS), but regardless they ARE canon.

Those stone huts are all we need to know about the sequels being canon. This is obviously what they are building towards.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

First of all Darth Vader is only emotional attachments that is why he fell to the dark side. Second I think Yoda was only feeling all these Jedi becoming one with the force, it was a great disturbance. As far as I could tell only he felt it, why is that. Who really knows? Did you see how Yoda reacts to Obi-wan after he finds out Anakin is Vader. He tells him to kill him. If he was so emotionally attached he would have told him to try and turn him back. Yoda can have feeling but he isn't attached to any of the Jedi. Their death is not the end to him. They become one with the force, this is how Yoda thinks. There is nothing to be emotionally attached to since they are never gone in his eyes.
With Grogu being in the picture now, maybe it was Grogu reaching out into the force that made Yoda feel something strange. We don't know yet how Feloni and Jon will change things so everything is up in the air.

Yeah, you definitely haven't seen Clone Wars...

Darth Vader and the galaxy, are saved by Anakin's emotional attachments.



Yoda reaction to Order 66 is expanded on, on TCW. This is a man in an emotional state. Fear of loss. Like losing his apprentice, Dooku, who he still thinks about. Look at his reaction to Ashoka here. He's tempted by a world, where also those who have been lost are there.





Yoda reacting to the Sith with "kill the Sith", even Anakin, is classic Jedi stuff. And guess what, Yoda's wrong. But do you know who was right about all this stuff? That emotional guy, Qui-Gon. The one who learned to separate his essence even after death.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The absolute worst thing they can do right now is to tie all this in to the Sequels. Please please please don't do that.

They don't have to erase them from canon and its not realistic to expect that to happen. But they also don't have to make any connections. There is more than enough time jump to keep them as separate stories. Let the audience make their own connections if they choose to.

They aren't separate stories. This is all connected. We are talking about the story of Luke and the Jedi. That's a big part of the ST and all of Star Wars. I hope you're ready for little Benny next week.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I never said they should. Did you even read my post?

Of course I did. What's the difference between that and saying "they don't have to erase them from canon, but also don't tie them in."? I get it, they are divisive films, but people should want Filoni and everybody involved to make those movies more cohesive as divisive as they are. He did it for the prequels and he can do it here. And besides, it's impossible to ignore the sequels anymore. They are major events in the timeline and if they are canon, they pretty much have to start bridging the gap.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If that happens then all of this fan service is for nothing.

How do you figure this? I want to see Ben. I'm a Star Wars fan. Rey and Kylo are two of my favorite characters. Does my fandom not count?

 

[Gothamsknight]

One of the biggest complaints I've seen from people is that we didn't see on screen the buildup to Lukes exile. And now that we have a chance at establishing a lot of that, we shouldn't see it?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Of course I did. What's the difference between that and saying "they don't have to erase them from canon, but also don't tie them in."? I get it, they are divisive films, but people should want Filoni and everybody involved to make those movies more cohesive as divisive as they are. He did it for the prequels and he can do it here. And besides, it's impossible to ignore the sequels anymore. They are major events in the timeline and if they are canon, they pretty much have to start bridging the gap.

So are the prequels. And you know what I did when I saw the N1 Starfighter? GEEKED OUT!!!!!!!!

Jon seems open to all of Star Wars. Same with BD-1 and Black K.

 

[Gothamsknight]

So are the prequels. And you know what I did when I saw the N1 Starfighter? GEEKED OUT!!!!!!!!

Jon seems open to all of Star Wars. Same with BD-1 and Black K.

Me too! That and BD-1, of course. It's what I love about him and Filoni. They don't seem biased at all with any era of Star Wars and it's why I have so much confidence they can make the sequels even better.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

One of the biggest complaints I've seen from people is that we didn't see on screen the buildup to Lukes exile. And now that we have a chance at establishing a lot of that, we shouldn't see it?

Going to be real. Those huts look like the ST huts for a reason. We've never seen any Jedi structure like that, before ST. And then they were there for both the original temple and Luke's temple, which we probably just saw in this episode.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Me too! That and BD-1, of course. It's what I love about him and Filoni. They don't seem biased at all with any era of Star Wars and it's why I have so much confidence they can make the sequels even better.

I don't think anything needs to be made better. They just don't need to take on the mentality of fanboys, who can't handle the parts of Star Wars they don't like.

 

[Weather Witch]

The absolute worst thing they can do right now is to tie all this in to the Sequels. Please please please don't do that.

They don't have to erase them from canon and its not realistic to expect that to happen. But they also don't have to make any connections. There is more than enough time jump to keep them as separate stories. Let the audience make their own connections if they choose to.

They have been connecting to story threads of (and added in refences to) the sequels in almost every single episode of the Mandalorian. It's more subtle than the PT and OT stuff, but it's been there all along.

This season of BOBF had another refence to Canto Bight, continued the ongoing thing of highlighting the incompetence of the New Republic (which gives rise to the First Order) and Luke's school is the latest example.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Going to be real. Those huts look like the ST huts for a reason. We've never seen any Jedi structure like that, before ST. And then they were there for both the original temple and Luke's temple, which we probably just saw in this episode.

Yep. I was telling my brother that this morning. It's pretty clear where they are heading with this, and I'm just so excited now haha. I hope they continue to expand on it and future shows. Starting to wonder if we'll get maybe a Luke mini-series?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I meant For Me.

This is a very narrow view of why they should and should not do things.

Except that is still 25 years away. It doesn't even make sense to explain it now.

No, it's more like 18 years away. Still, this is selective. Plenty of things don't have to be talked about or show up. They do. Once they brought in Luke and his academy, it only makes sense.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yep. I was telling my brother that this morning. It's pretty clear where they are heading with this, and I'm just so excited now haha. I hope they continue to expand on it and future shows. Starting to wonder if we'll get maybe a Luke mini-series?

I think we will see all these characters just continually crossing over during this period. They just keep adding more and I'm so excited. Next week I expect Han and Ben. Soon we will see Leia, Hera and hopefully Jacen.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I think we will see all these characters just continually crossing over during this period. They just keep adding more and I'm so excited. Next week I expect Han and Ben. Soon we will see Leia, Hera and hopefully Jacen.

if we see Han and Ben next week, I'm gonna choke up. again haha.

 

[Weather Witch]

Except that is still 25 years away. It doesn't even make sense to explain it now.

Kylo is starting his training six years from now though. Han and Leia already have a four year-old kid at this point. The stories of the sequels don't start 25 years from now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

if we see Han and Ben next week, I'm gonna choke up. again haha.

I totally think I'm right about those two dropping off Grogurt in the Falcon. I'm going to be so disappointed if I'm wrong.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Kylo is starting his training six years from now though. Han and Leia already have a four year-old kid at this point. The stories of the sequels don't start 25 years from now.

Ben was born the year after the war ended, right? Shouldn't he be at least 5, probably 6 by now? First season of Mando was 5 years after. We are now closer to 7.

 

[Weather Witch]

Ben was born the year after the war ended, right? Shouldn't he be at least 5, probably 6 by now? First season of Mando was 5 years after. We are now closer to 7.

I do suck at math. The dates I've been sticking with from the wiki are 5ABY for Ben's birth and 9ABY for Mando, though we might've crossed into 10ABY by now. Regardless of his age, it was more a "Ben/Kylo is already alive at this point."

 

[Holy Slapper]

Episode 5 is rated 9.4 at IMDB (almost 16K votes) and this episode is at 9.6 (over 11K votes).

 

[The Big G]

The Bane Train is going off the rails

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

Wonder if we will get the Cad & Boba showdown that is ended up getting axed when Clone Wars was cancelled

 

[misjuevos]

Yeah, you definitely haven't seen Clone Wars...

Darth Vader and the galaxy, are saved by Anakin's emotional attachments.

Yoda reaction to Order 66 is expanded on, on TCW. This is a man in an emotional state. Fear of loss. Like losing his apprentice, Dooku, who he still thinks about. Look at his reaction to Ashoka here. He's tempted by a world, where also those who have been lost are there.


Yoda reacting to the Sith with "kill the Sith", even Anakin, is classic Jedi stuff. And guess what, Yoda's wrong. But do you know who was right about all this stuff? That emotional guy, Qui-Gon. The one who learned to separate his essence even after death.

Yes I have seen the Clone Wars.
To your first point, You said in the previous post Darth Vader had no attachments. You made a big deal about it with a picture and everything so I don't know why you mentioned this again only to say he has emotional attachments.
To your second point about Yoda. The first clip is if I remember is the dagobah darkside cave it's a test. He was shown a vision and he made it out ok.
The second clip is also a vision and he is only trying to figure out what is going on and who is behind it. He is trying to decipher his vision. He is able to break free of the vision because he is not attached, seeing everyone dying doesn't sway him and seeing everyone together peacefully doesn't sway him. He knows it isn't real and lets go. He passes this test as well. These so called emotional moments are test and he passes because he has let go of his attachments and can see through them.
To your third point. I said before I am ok with attachments for Jedi. Yoda is powerful because he doesn't have attachments, all the other Jedi have some attachments and that is why they aren't as strong as him in the force. He has feelings but he is ok with death because it isn't the end in his mind. They become one with the force.